2014 Scholarship/Roster Breakdown

[ACamp1900]

Lol.. Who put the frown face on my post??

 

[PANDFAN]

I think we'll push for another athlete who can play corner if necessary, with BJax and Wood gone, and Jalen Brown and Atkinson unlikely to make it out of the dog house. Probably explains the late interest in Alexander.

it wasn't late interest...it was reported that we liked his film and were interested but that john curtis school doesn't allow visits in season unless it's local....but there was communication between the coaches...he is just starting the recruiting process of visiting..nothing to do w/ them

 

[Domina Nostra]

Updated for Tuitt.

Think we wait and see what M. Quick, JuJu, and B. Smith do.

After that its McKenzie, Alexander, and 5th years unless someone pops up at the last minute.

 

[IrishLax]

Updated for Tuitt.

Think we wait and see what M. Quick, JuJu, and B. Smith do.

After that its McKenzie, Alexander, and 5th years unless someone pops up at the last minute.

Great job keeping this list so accurate and up to date. I saw you had (early?) next to a couple guys' names. FYI, Brent and Trumbetti are EEs, Kizer decided to not EE.

Also, Collinsworth should definitely be listed in the 5th year pool at the end. I'm almost certain Moore will be back, and as things stand Collinsworth will definitely be back too unless push were to come to shove with Juju for a spot.

 

[Brooklyn]

Updated for Tuitt.

Think we wait and see what M. Quick, JuJu, and B. Smith do.

After that its McKenzie, Alexander, and 5th years unless someone pops up at the last minute.

Joe Schmidt is a Sr not a 5th year guy next year. Otherwise nice job.

 

[STLDomer]

Isn't Schmidt definitely back as a scholarship LB next year??

EDIT: the above

 

[STLDomer]

With Tuitt and GAIII gone 5 spots for recruits and 5th years now. Would be shocked if all 4 of Lombard, Collinsworth, Moore and Utupo are not back.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Updated. I bet you are right, but hopefully we will get a couple more recruits!

 

[Brooklyn]

7 scholarships now available. With Moore and Lombard coming back its 5 and we look like this:

Getting dangerously thin in the inside even for a 4-3. Pretty much guarantees Utupo coming back and moving into a base 4-3 mostly imo.

 

[irishog77]

6 scholarships now available. With Moore and Lombard coming back its 4 and we look like this:

Getting dangerously thin in the inside even for a 4-3. Pretty much guarantees Utupo coming back and moving into a base 4-3 mostly imo.

With the way the numbers are looking, I think Heggie may even be back.

Only sort of joking.

 

[Brooklyn]

And guys like Jhonathan Williams, Andrew Trumbetti, Jay Hayes (at NG), and Grant Blankenship are only at their respective positions because thats probably their longterm positions with the current roster we have now. Im not sure physically any of those guys would be ready for a 3-4 Dline other than Jay Hayes at LE/RE.

 

[STLDomer]

7 spots now....

 

[wizards8507]

Skyyyy faaaaaall.

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[CarrollVermin]

Well, next year looks like a lot of fun!

 

[Domina Nostra]

Updated for Niklas.

 

[Brooklyn]

Just this kind of day. Don't know how it happened but my picture of the roster (link is the same) became this:

6 scholarships now available. With Moore and Lombard coming back its 4 and we look like this:

Getting dangerously thin in the inside even for a 4-3. Pretty much guarantees Utupo coming back and moving into a base 4-3 mostly imo.

LOL. Fixed it and updated it for Niklas.

 

[NDdomer2]

crazy how fast our positions of depth are now dangerously thin. one summer camp injury away from no depth and playing first year starters

so sick of no full 85 & saving scholarships for next years small class.

what happened to getting rkgs and developing?

 

[STLDomer]

Updated for Niklas.

Is their a reason you're not listing Schmidt as a scholarship LB and down at the bottom like he is a recruit or 5th year?

 

[stlnd01]

crazy how fast our positions of depth are now dangerously thin. one summer camp injury away from no depth and playing first year starters

so sick of no full 85 & saving scholarships for next years small class.

what happened to getting rkgs and developing?

In what sense are we saving scholarships for next year? It's not like we've been turning guys away this cycle. And as for RKGs and developmental guys, what do you call our army of three-star linebackers?

 

[NDdomer2]

In what sense are we saving scholarships for next year? It's not like we've been turning guys away this cycle. And as for RKGs and developmental guys, what do you call our army of three-star linebackers?

the saving scharships is a term thats been thrown around almost every year come january since kelly has been here when it becomes obvious we wont reach 85.

yeah three star linebacker are great right now since they are not needed but what about a three star NT a year or two ago while our depth was thick but we were under 85. kid would be a junior now and developed and much needed.

you can put your blinders on but there has been some serious roster management flaws at dt/nt and ilb since kelly has been here despite his rkg and developing comments. he has done it at other positions but not at the ones that were going to be obvious positions of need.

 

[dublinirish]

5th year for Heggie??

 

[Fbolt]

Scout.com: Future Tense: QB

Grades: Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow
Projecting with any accuracy future quarterback depth charts at Notre Dame is an exercise in futility, but as it stands today:

2013 Grade: C … No viable backup option and the lack of a running threat greatly impeded the offense's evolution. Rees -- easily the team's most indispensable player because of the reality of his understudies -- threw too many crucial interceptions for a player with his vast experience. Then again, the senior competitor isn't to blame for the erroneous choice of putting the onus of the offense on his right arm. Rees graduates a winner, a competitor, a Notre Dame man, and a player that likely should have gone down in program annals as the most effective and reliable backup in history. Golson's choice negated that scenario...

2014 Grade: B … I exited the 2012 season considering Golson Notre Dame's fourth-best football player (Louis Nix, Stephon Tuitt, Zack Martin) entering 2013. He's doubtless the most important for 2014 and ranks alongside sophomore linebacker Jaylon Smith and senior tight end Troy Niklas as one of the three top players.

He also hasn't played football since January 7, 2013. Neither of his backups have taken a college snap (one hasn't taken a collegiate practice snap). B might be kind, considering there are nine months of land mines to negotiate between now and the season's opening kick.

2015 Grade: A … Accepting the reality of 2014 above, I believe Golson will rank among the nation's top 10 quarterbacks by season's end 2014, and thus among the top 5 entering 2015. Zaire will likely have meaningful snaps under his belt (in fact, I guarantee it), and the third and fourth options, redshirt-freshman Kizer and true freshman Barnett, will be the envy of most collegiate programs.

Oh those best laid plans...

oops!

 

[T Town Tommy]

the saving scharships is a term thats been thrown around almost every year come january since kelly has been here when it becomes obvious we wont reach 85.

yeah three star linebacker are great right now since they are not needed but what about a three star NT a year or two ago while our depth was thick but we were under 85. kid would be a junior now and developed and much needed.

you can put your blinders on but there has been some serious roster management flaws at dt/nt and ilb since kelly has been here despite his rkg and developing comments. he has done it at other positions but not at the ones that were going to be obvious positions of need.

Does ND not allow EE's and use then against the 85 number from the previous year if slots were available? Just asking because I don't know. Thanks.

 

[Cackalacky]

Does ND not allow EE's and use then against the 85 number from the previous year if slots were available? Just asking because I don't know. Thanks.

We do. We have 2 this year (I think...). Normally it is not many more than 3. I don't recall a year we took more than 3.

Our other problem is that we can't or don't have tons of 5th years (I think Alabama had 7 5th years this past season?). Usually no more than 4. A 5th year has to RS and then graduate from his undergrad degree and be accepted and attend a masters program during their "5th" year.

 

[PANDFAN]

13
Notre Dame Fighting Irish
2013 record: 9-4
Quarterback Everett Golson is set to return. Notre Dame's defense should be better than its No. 48 S&P+ ranking in 2013. A hangover following the 2012 season's BCS title game loss to Alabama was to be expected. Still, Brian Kelly should keep the Irish nationally relevant in '14.
Why this ranking could be flawed: I'll leave this one to the message-board crowd: Notre Dame stinks. It's overrated every year. The media always think the Fighting Irish are going to be good, but they won't be. Stop pretending like Knute Rockne is still there.


Read More: Florida State, Alabama top Way-Too-Early college football Top 25 - College Football - Martin Rickman - SI.com

 

[Domina Nostra]

Updated, I think...

 

[ACamp1900]

13
Notre Dame Fighting Irish
2013 record: 9-4
Quarterback Everett Golson is set to return. Notre Dame's defense should be better than its No. 48 S&P+ ranking in 2013. A hangover following the 2012 season's BCS title game loss to Alabama was to be expected. Still, Brian Kelly should keep the Irish nationally relevant in '14.
Why this ranking could be flawed: I'll leave this one to the message-board crowd: Notre Dame stinks. It's overrated every year. The media always think the Fighting Irish are going to be good, but they won't be. Stop pretending like Knute Rockne is still there.

Read More: Florida State, Alabama top Way-Too-Early college football Top 25 - College Football - Martin Rickman - SI.com

I mentioned this yesterday, but perception is reality in CFB... and the perception is exactly this... 12 wins and getting embarrassed, or 9 wins and winning some bowl no one cares about is not 'winning' in CFB... Winning big time bowls and or titles is, until ND does either of those it’s hard to make an argument for ND being ‘back’ with a straight face for me. Obviously, that’s just my two cents…

 

[wizards8507]

I mentioned this yesterday, but perception is reality in CFB... and the perception is exactly this... 12 wins and getting embarrassed, or 9 wins and winning some bowl no one cares about is not 'winning' in CFB... Winning big time bowls and or titles is, until ND does either of those it’s hard to make an argument for ND being ‘back’ with a straight face for me. Obviously, that’s just my two cents…

This. I think it would have been better for our national perception last year if we had lost to Stanford in the regular season and then beaten Northern Illinois or K-State in a BCS bowl. The way in which we lost to Alabama erased the entire season in public perception.

 

[ACamp1900]

This. I think it would have been better for our national perception last year if we had lost to Stanford in the regular season and then beaten Northern Illinois or K-State in a BCS bowl. The way in which we lost to Alabama erased the entire season in public perception.

It absolutely, without any question, would have been.

 

[wizards8507]

It absolutely, without any question, would have been.

Maybe he did break the plane...