2014 Master List

[STLDomer]

Would be a dream school for 2014 NJ DE Andrew Trumbetti

2014 DE Camping With Purpose

 

[Spiewak]

Back on the ranch, think I mentioned this earlier in this thread, but Notre Dame has offered Braden Smith. Link

 

[BGIF]

Yes, and jason_h seemingly has ridden off into he sunset

jason's out of HS and went to college. He's got demands on his time that the didn't have in HS.

He did a pretty good job updating the Master List. His biggest drawback (only?) was his penchant for adding CA players who had no interest in ND or vice versa. He was a terrible homer (Cali not ND) and the bias showed in his commentary. When he first came on this site he was full of p & v but he grew out of the sophomoric phase and became a viable poster over time. I miss his posts.

 

[BGIF]

I have been knocked for this before but.....

That tends to happen when one keeps leading with his chin.

Texas high school football is weakening and is overrated

Got some substance for that glittering generality?

The success of the UTx program isn't an accurate barometer of TX HS FB. No more that Southern Cal's struggles from '83 to '99 were a barometer from CA recruiting strength. That period spoke more about Tollner, Smith, Robinson, and Hackett than HS football. Check UF when anybody other than Spurrier or Meyer were the head coach. Or check Miami when Johnson, Erickson, or Coker (first 3 years only) weren't the head coach. Neither UF's or Miami's ups and downs were related to the state of Florida HS recruiting but rather the state of the head coaches at those schools.

I'd take a kid from Florida, Cincy area, Birmingham/Tuscaloosa area, Georgia, or California ranked near the same over a kid from Texas any day

"Any day" ??? That kind of hyperbole ruins anyone's argument.

An argument can obviously be made for FL, CA, and TX having similar talent pools but the "Cincy area", or "Birmingham/Tuscaloosa area", or "Georgia" show a serious lack of understanding of the concept of a talent pool. In a given year the #1 kid in Georgia could be the best player in America but year in and year out, the talent level isn't close. And the #5, #20, or the Nth kid is NOT comparable between GA and any of UF, CA, or TX. The deeper you go on the list the bigger the disparity.

I don't know where you picked up the Birmingham/Tuscaloosa area but - it ain't so. The #5 kid in that area isn't close to the #5 kid in the State of Alabama much less FL, CA, or TX.

Here's a link to the 2012 UA FB Roster.

Official Football Roster - ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE - University of Alabama Official Athletic Site

There's as many players from Brisbane, Australia as there is from Tuscaloosa - 1. There are more from Hyattsville, MD. Check the roster for the Atlanta Area. As for the State of Alabama that roster is heavy around Mobile Bay, Mobile, Pritchard, Spanish Fort, Foley, Daphne, etc, etc. Curiously, Southern Alabama used to be AU's feeding grounds. Saban seems to have changed that. But then Saban has a bunch of kids from the Miami Area, a couple from the Carolinas, a couple from Tennessee, and even, dare I say it, 3 from TEXAS! What can Saban be thinking? Doesn't he read your posts?

BTW, on that UA Roster they list the Castille kid as Birmingham but he goes to school at Briarwood, a Christian school in North Shelby County. They list another kid from Oak Mountain that also in North Shelby County, as is Hoover's Spain Park HS.

Is that UA Roster an anomaly? No. Tuscaloosa/Birmingham has provided some talent over the years but it's not a hotbed. At least not according to the Alabama Sports Writers Association which has been picking the Alabama Super 12 (Best Players in the State regardless of School Division) for the past 30 years. Here's a link to their site and their choices for those 3 decades:

AHSFHS.org - ASWA Super 12

 

[NDinFL]

I appreciate the facts BGIF but my original prompt that LA so elegantly ignored was not the depth of talent.

I said if a player from Tusaloosa was ranked say 3rd overall at LB and a player from Texas was ranked 2nd overall. I would take the player from Tuscaloosa, that is all. LA morphed my argument to depth which makes no sense as Texas as thousands more player than a city like Cincinatti or Tuscaloosa or any state for that matter

 

[NDinL.A.]

I appreciate the facts BGIF but my original prompt that LA so elegantly ignored was not the depth of talent.

From your mouth:

Texas high school football is weakening and is overrated

And btw, I'll take the state with 4 players in the top 10 Heisman voting (would've been higher had LaMichael not been hurt) and the top 2 players taken in the draft over the players from the states you mentioned any day of the week.

Dude, just stop...you're wrong here. Call it opinion all you want, but opinions can be wrong. I gave you facts (you ignored them of course) so you changed your argument. BGIF gave you a wealth of knowledge, and you still ignore it. I just gave you (AGAIN) a state with 4 of the top 10 players in college football, and you will ignore that as well.

 

[Jason Pham]

Alright folks, I've deleted what I thought were posts that were going too far off track. If you think one of your posts was wrongfully deleted, send me a PM.

I'm not looking for everyone to agree. However, what I do expect is that we approach one another with respect. Having a different opinion, or even being objectively wrong about something, does not warrant the sort of disrespect that is coming up in this thread and I am confident that we can carry out future conversations with a little less of that and a little more actual conversation.

 

[Grahambo]

Alright folks, I've deleted what I thought were posts that were going too far off track. If you think one of your posts was wrongfully deleted, send me a PM.

I'm not looking for everyone to agree. However, what I do expect is that we approach one another with respect. Having a different opinion, or even being objectively wrong about something, does not warrant the sort of disrespect that is coming up in this thread and I am confident that we can carry out future conversations with a little less of that and a little more actual conversation.

The Pham has spoken. Get out of his office!

 

[beryirish]

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[STLDomer]

Anyone up to making a Clifton Garrett thread, seemed pretty pumped about offer.

“@BGI_JasonSapp: RT @SWiltfong247 Plainfield (IL) South Top50 2014 LB Clifton Garrett schedules his visit to #NotreDame (VIP) Notre Dame offers Top50 2014

And saw this:

“@Obey_Pride: @cg340 lol rember wat we planned...were ever i go you go and vice versa!..”

After this:

“@BGI_JasonSapp: RT @SWiltfong247 Crete (Ill.) Monee's talented 2014 LB Nyles Morgan talks about his offer from #NotreDame (VIP) Nyles Morgan talks Notre Dame offer.

 

[STLDomer]

Offered #1 TE and top 20 player CA TE Tyler Luatua, no USC offer yet suprisingly as he already as offers from most major teams.

Bama looks like the favorite as his brother is there. Rich get richer as they already got OJ Howard the #2 TE from this year ( who I personally think is better than Breneman)

 

[Spiewak]

TX DB Nick Harvey has been offered by ND.

 

[STLDomer]

Offers are flying in, lots of ILBS and CBs

 

[STLDomer]

Making a profile for big time 2014 MN RB Jeff Jones who will visit with Onwualu

 

[johnnykillz]

Making a profile for big time 2014 MN RB Jeff Jones who will visit with Onwualu

The MVP above Jaylon at Trine, right?

He's legit!

 

[STLDomer]

Yeah

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/2014-recruiting-profiles/69267-14-mn-rb-jeff-jones.html

 

[STLDomer]

Updated a couple, anyone need to be added?

Raekwon McMillan needs "offer" next to his name please mods

 

[STLDomer]

Per 247 In top 2 w/ Sparty for 2014 Ohio WR Thaddeus Snodgrass, could be offered soon

 

[Spiewak]

Updated a couple, anyone need to be added?

Raekwon McMillan needs "offer" next to his name please mods

OL Braden Smith has an offer.

Also, ND is recruiting Jon Hilliman (believe there's a thread about him) but no offer yet. Not sure how hard they'll go after him given how Huggins/Tre Bell recruitment played out.

 

[STLDomer]

2014 Chicago OL Jamarco Jones visited for the Spring Game will visit on June 22nd. High on ND early

- Per 247

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Too early for this lol. Recruiting will drive you crazy with current class let alone High School sophmores lol

 

[STLDomer]

DT Enoch Smith has high interest after offer & camp today

Also offered DT Khari Clark

- per 247

Redid the front page btw

 

[NDPhilly]

Offered OL Jamarco Jones

 

[STLDomer]

“@AllenTrieu: Grand Rapids Christian (Mich.) 2014 OL Tommy Doles talks #Michigan offer and camps at #NotreDame & #MichiganState - Scout.com: Doles Honored By First Offer

Asked if ND offered

“No he wasn't. A little surprising, but I think it will come eventually and I think ND would become the team to beat”

 

[STLDomer]

2014 WR Lawrence Lee has ND & Auburn on top early

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Maybe we could add JB, Mr. R-I-P to the list. That would be medium cool, because he has accepted a committable offer after visiting OSU.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

2014 WR Lawrence Lee has ND & Auburn on top early

He said academics will be the only thing he judges on when picking a school and doesn't understand why kids pick schools based on if they are winning now.. He then went on to say he wants to visit Alabama, Auburn, and Wisconsin this summer..... He also hasn't actually talked to Booker on the phone yet though Booker has talked to his coach.

 

[STLDomer]

Thread updated

Maybe we could add JB, Mr. R-I-P to the list. That would be medium cool, because he has accepted a committable offer after visiting OSU.

Yeah I got to update a couple.

to answer your question in PM Brent is listed as 6'3 190 but I agree he looks alot biggger, wouldnt suprise me if he was 205 actually.

He said academics will be the only thing he judges on when picking a school and doesn't understand why kids pick schools based on if they are winning now.. He then went on to say he wants to visit Alabama, Auburn, and Wisconsin this summer..... He also hasn't actually talked to Booker on the phone yet though Booker has talked to his coach.

There is a lot of early interest from good WRs this year (Quick, Googer, Snodgrass & now Lee) we'll have to see if it is genuine or not.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Thread updated



Yeah I got to update a couple.

to answer your question in PM Brent is listed as 6'3 190 but I agree he looks alot biggger, wouldnt suprise me if he was 205 actually.

No, everything from ESPN shows him at 6'1". Everything everywhere. Is this a conspiricy? I have heard he is unbelievably solid and at least 6'3" tall.

 

[DomeLover3]

He said academics will be the only thing he judges on when picking a school and doesn't understand why kids pick schools based on if they are winning now.. He then went on to say he wants to visit Alabama, Auburn, and Wisconsin this summer..... He also hasn't actually talked to Booker on the phone yet though Booker has talked to his coach.

???? does not compute