2013 Spring Practice Thread

[dublinirish]

Cam needs to grow his hair out and become Tim Riggins minus the alcoholism. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Um what? Amir and Cam run nothing alike, yes they are both small and can catch the ball well but that is where the similarities end. Cam is much tougher between the tackles and seems to enjoy contact, while Amir lives more on his quickness/speed and seems to avoid contact.

I never said Cam doesn't enjoy the contact, I said that neither of them will make their living between the tackles. Doesn't mean he can't go there occasionally, but he won't make the majority of his runs tackle to tackle. As far as Amir goes, I'm not sure that anyone can say for sure at this point whether he seems to avoid contact, he doesn't have much college level game action to base that opinion on.

 

[rocket66]

I'm not a Cam fanboy, but some of you are cutting him way short. The kid is a great athlete and had a great high school career in a top state. Wasn't he also player of the year his senior year? He's a much better athlete than Toma, and we all saw how much Toma was able to accomplish in this offense. I'm excited as hell to see how he fits in.

 

[dublinirish]

I definitely think if Cam gets a decent opportunity he would be hard to displace. Consistency is his game and coaches have repeatedly said he always makes the right reads. Is his as explosive as others in the RB group? Of course not but i just think he can do a great job in this Offense.

 

[ThePiombino]

Cam needs to grow his hair out and become Tim Riggins minus the alcoholism. That's all I'm saying.

Texas forever.

 

[rocket66]

I definitely think if Cam gets a decent opportunity he would be hard to displace. Consistency is his game and coaches have repeatedly said he always makes the right reads. Is his as explosive as others in the RB group? Of course not but i just think he can do a great job in this Offense.

His explosiveness and power look fine to me, it's his breakaway speed that people are hung up on, IMO. His vision in the hole is great.

 

[EuropeanDomer]

I wonder would happen if Cam were black and his name Ladarius or Tre'von.

He is a fantastic football player, can play offense, defense, special teams, an amazing athlete. As a runner, he shows burst, speed, tougness, can run inside/outside and as a every down player. I understand that the staff are more intrigued about GAIII playmaking ability, but Cam can compete with every RB on the roster, he deserves a chance.

 

[greyhammer90]

I wonder would happen if Cam were black and his name Ladarius or Tre'von.

He wouldn't get as much attention on here, and people would assume that whoever the Coaches put in front of him on the depth chart is the better RB...

 

[Bogtrotter07]

His carries against Miami was garbage time. Miami had given up. They got punched in the mouth and gave up. Hence why we didn't try to score with him running the ball.

And I believe he was only cross trained in spring, or am I not remembering that correctly?

I just don't get why people like Cam more than GAIII. GAIII at times looked really good - I remember certain runs against Stanford, MSU and USC that showed his skills..actually throw in his TD run against BYU.

Also, GAIII looked great against Miami too. The only game Cam actually looked good...

I tried to explain it to you, and instead you argued with me. It is pretty simple. It comes down to noses. So far Cam's has been harder. And so far you change facts to suit your argument; even Mike Mayock was ebullient and effuse in his praise of Cam's one man touchdown drive, (being that everyone from Miami knew where the ball was going and still couldn't stop him.) You and Mark Mayock must have been watching a different game.

Furthermore: A few of you are putting freshmen that haven't even been on campus into starting roles on offense. I saw Corey Robinson and James Onwaulu contributing, but starting? Give them a chance to grow up, a little!

 

[ScooterIrish]

I tried to explain it to you, and instead you argued with me. It is pretty simple. It comes down to noses. So far Cam's has been harder. And so far you change facts to suit your argument; even Mike Mayock was ebullient and effuse in his praise of Cam's one man touchdown drive, (being that everyone from Miami knew where the ball was going and still couldn't stop him.) You and Mark Mayock must have been watching a different game.

Furthermore: A few of you are putting freshmen that haven't even been on campus into starting roles on offense. I saw Corey Robinson and James Onwaulu contributing, but starting? Give them a chance to grow up, a little!

Lol ok man, but we haven't seen enough of Cam in actual meaningful game time. Miami gave up. Cam looked average in the Wake game. Thoughts on that? Thoughts on how GAIII looked fantastic in the Miami game? Better than Cam?

So far, we don't know if Cam's nose has been harder because he has half the carries and averages 2 yards less a carry. Plus he got zero carries in any actual high pressure game time.

Since you seem to know Mayock, does he also prefer Cam over GAIII? Or are you just remembering Mayock talking highly of him during garbage time in 1 game in which Cam got roughly 50% of his carries?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Lol ok man, but we haven't seen enough of Cam in actual meaningful game time. Miami gave up. Cam looked average in the Wake game. Thoughts on that? Thoughts on how GAIII looked fantastic in the Miami game? Better than Cam?

So far, we don't know if Cam's nose has been harder because he has half the carries and averages 2 yards less a carry. Plus he got zero carries in any actual high pressure game time.

Since you seem to know Mayock, does he also prefer Cam over GAIII? Or are you just remembering Mayock talking highly of him during garbage time in 1 game in which Cam got roughly 50% of his carries?

I think everything I have heard him say, he thinks the same thing I have heard from other players, and everybody that has watched practice reports. Cam is one of the hardest working, most team oriented players out there. Cam helps move the whole teams work ethic forward. Like Kelly says, it is his job to find a place for Cam to play. And Cam is the guy that gives definition to the difference between the "best eleven," and the "eleven best."

Nobody, that I know or have ever talked to prefers one player above another, when you are talking an 85 man roster. Most realize it is more a mater of development than static skills at this level, and that you need both guys with incredible skills and real work ethic to win at this level. Now getting back to these two; most knowledgeable people I have talked to don't rate GA III that far above Cam.

I started off with paraphrasing Kelly talking about how good of back Cam was and how they have to find more of a role for him. He explained with the running backs and the offensive development where it was, that all worked against Cam. This year will be different. I bet ya'!

 

[EuropeanDomer]

Notre Dame Football Spring Practice Update - April 5, 2013 - YouTube

- Nix is unstoppable when he use the bull-rush
- Shembo looks pretty good. Fast, explosive and strong. His motor never stops
- Good plays by Tony Springman and Jalen Brown.

 

[Luckylucci]

I thought Shembo was much improved last year and I think he's what could make our Dline scary good. Everybody knows what Tuitt and Nix are going to bring but if Shembo can be a 10+ sack guy this year, that would be fun to watch.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Utopo is big.

 

[Luckylucci]

Yes he is. Everytime I see CB in highlight, I am amazed how much better he looks. Confident, good footwork, and looks good in and out of his breaks. If he can be on the field for half the snaps of each game, he could have a very good season.

 

[STLDomer]

As Kelly said earlier, Louis Nix is giving our centers (looks like Martin will beat our Hegarty) great training.

 

[JughedJones]

The drums started in that video and I turned into one big goosebump.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

As Kelly said earlier, Louis Nix is giving our centers (looks like Martin will beat our Hegarty) great training.

I predict a few cut-blocks this season on Nix...

 

[Luckylucci]

Sampson had an update on Daniels injury this morning. He categorized it as a minor leg injury. Wasn't sure if he practiced today or not but it shouldn't hold him out much longer.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Utopo looking good again.

 

[tadman95]

Heggie not in pads! DOOM

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Did any of you notice James Onwaulu in the April 5th highlight film? Fast enough to press a defender into making a decision, strong enough to keep to his route with a defender in his face, shield the ball with his body, and sprint for the TD.

If he keeps this up he will be another Michael Floyd.

There I said it, and I am glad I said it, too!

 

[STLDomer]

Did any of you notice James Onwaulu in the highlight. Strong enough to keep to his route with a defender in his face, shield the ball with his body, and sprint for the TD.

If he keeps this up he will be another Michael Floyd.

There I said it, and I am glad I said it, too!

Personally I think that was more bad defense by Badger than good offense by Onwualu

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Really? You didn't like his explosiveness, his strength, and his hands? I thought he looked like a guy with some polish instead of a prom king!

 

[Luckylucci]

I wish I could share in your excitement but I just can't
Strength- hard to evaluate since it wasn't press coverage there was very little contact between the two.
Hands- He has to catch that ball or he doesn't play. It wasn't like some of the catches we've seen so far from C. Rob. Good throw
Physically- His frame for an early enrollee is very good.
Lastly, Badger looked lost in space which not a good thing for his future time on Defense.

On this specific play is what I am speaking to not his future career.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

What about Springman. To me, from what I have seen, he has taken a giant step forward this spring, pun intended!


They call him turbo!

 

[Old Man Mike]

I thought that the OLine looked pretty good, even NMart.

ZMart had a magnificent rep vs The Prince, and that became a teaching moment for Shembo.

ZMart and Watt had a smooth exchange vs a loop by the two DLine, and if QB was paying attention [in a real game situation] , I think that a pocket would still have been there. {Everett, on the other hand might have rolled out to try to get away}. Lombard had a couple of good reps --- I noticed no "featuring" of Hanratty [maybe I missed it --- but if not that guard position worries me].

As to NMart vs Big Lou: NOBODY can stop Big Lou from pushing them backwards, but NMart stayed dead center in front of him and upright in "fight" position. If you can at least battle Lou, you're probably OK vs mere mortals.

So, ZMart// Watt// NMart = OK. Lombard seemingly OK at one place or another. Now who's our fifth???

This is a crazy thought probably, but could it turn out to be Elmer at RT???

{ this would leave us, in the august practices, with a back-up line of Stanley[RT], Hanratty[RG], Hegarty[C], Harrell[LG], and maybe McGlinchy understudying ZMart --- I still "intuit" that Hunter Bivin will be the best of the new lot, but with NMart succeeding at Center, maybe Hiestand tries extra hard to preserve a redshirt.}

 

[Luckylucci]

I think springmann is going to provide some very solid minutes this year. Which is will be crucial because it doesn't seem jones is ready to step in quite yet. I have some skepticism about hanratty, I'd really like to see more tape on him. I have a feeling that if and when Stanley is healthy he might take RT and slide Lombard inside. With that said, I haven't seen much if hanratty so it's blind skepticism.

 

[ulukinatme]

This is a crazy thought probably, but could it turn out to be Elmer at RT???

I hope we don't have to put a true freshman on the line. The last time we did that, our offensive line wasn't so great. I think it's different for skill positions. You can rely a lot on your athleticism to carry you. For O-Line you need time to develop, build yourself up, get the footwork down, and learn the offense. Ideally you want Juniors and Seniors on the line, but sometimes you don't have that luxury.

 

[pkt77242]

I never said Cam doesn't enjoy the contact, I said that neither of them will make their living between the tackles. Doesn't mean he can't go there occasionally, but he won't make the majority of his runs tackle to tackle. As far as Amir goes, I'm not sure that anyone can say for sure at this point whether he seems to avoid contact, he doesn't have much college level game action to base that opinion on.

I see that you missed the point. My problem was with you saying that Cam was a poor man Amir when that makes no sense as they aren't the same player at all.