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2012 Fall Camp Thread
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BleedBlueGold
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I wasn't aware of that rule. Thanks for clarifying. Are the reflective visors against the rules as well then? Maybe it was the angle, but Manti's looks reflective at times.
That'll make for a great time. I'm jealous. Enjoy!
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The 2009 NCCA rulebook contains two specific rules relating to helmet visors. Rule 1-4, article 5, letter L, states that visors may only have the manufacturer or distributor label present. This label should be no larger than 2 and ¼ inches. The other rule, rule 1-4, article 5, letter S, states that eye shields must be clear, have no tint and are to be made from molded material. Players who are in violation of these rules will not be eligible to play unless their equipment is changed to meet these criteria. Individuals with special eye conditions must get medical clearance and NCAA approval to bypass these rules.
in the article i brought up from the usc site, oregon was in violation however it has to be enforced by the officials which chose not too...manti's is pretty clear but it is still going to have somewhat of a reflectiveness due to being plastic
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i believe it is due to if there is an injury and can't take players helmet off to be able to look at his eyes...i will get proof
Wearing tint on a visor can keep trainers from seeing your pupils in the event of an injury, especially a concussion. This rule was enacted so that training staff and coaches can easily view a player's face and eyes in the case of a serious injury, to discern if the player is conscious. The NCAA banned the use of tinted visors for the same reason, and the NFL has followed suit as well. However, players with eye problems may still obtain special permission to wear tinted visors, some notable examples being LaDanian Tomlinson and Chris Canty.[6]
Wearing tint on a visor can keep trainers from seeing your pupils in the event of an injury, especially a concussion. This rule was enacted so that training staff and coaches can easily view a player's face and eyes in the case of a serious injury, to discern if the player is conscious. The NCAA banned the use of tinted visors for the same reason, and the NFL has followed suit as well. However, players with eye problems may still obtain special permission to wear tinted visors, some notable examples being LaDanian Tomlinson and Chris Canty.[6]
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That is exactly it, reading the eyes, especially for a potential concussion. When I played in college I was required to get note from my optometrist for approval to have a visor with a very light tent to it.
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Medical professionals can't see if your eyes are dilated or whatever if you have a dark visor on. It's for safety.
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Some quarterbacks liked them because hawk-eyed safeties and linebackers had more difficulty seeing their face and "reading their eyes". With a dark visor, a clever gunslinger can tilt his head while actually looking elsewhere and there's no way to read him. I don't know how many QBs were street-smart enough to play this game, but I've heard at least one player [no, I can't remember which] talk about it.
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Was there is 2007. Make sure to hit up Temple Bar...and the Guinness factory. Be safe my friend.
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I don't get visors at all. I mean I guess they look cool, but I've seen guys have more problems with them and get nothing out of really wearing them. Guys always tell me they can't see out their visors because of condensation on the inside of the visor.
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I never really had a problem with mine and primarily wore it to keep fingers out.
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I have had players to wear them, but I wouldn't let them wear them in a game until they had practiced at least a week with it on first. Most of my guys would say the first day that they couldn't breathe with it on. It was just a mental thing, and by the third day of practice, that issue was over. The next problem I have seen is fogging up. Visors now are made better and they don't fog up as easy, but I wipe them down at night with fog-x. I have never had a player that wanted to wear one, and wore it for a week in practice first, have any problems with it in a game. Here in MIssissippi, our rules say the same thing, for coaches and trainers to be able to see the players eyes, but it puts emphasis on the official being able to see the players eyes. I have seen an official send a player out of the game because he suspected the player had a concussion.
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By no means am I saying you can be stupid and play the position. On the outside you tend to by one on one more of the time so you just have to be able to beat one man. Usually, the further inside you guy the more reads you have to make. I saw another post saying that it is more true on offense than defense. That could very well be the case. I was a center in college and my oline coach used to always say that. I guess he was telling me I have no athletic ability. haha
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I'll be sitting right next to you. My tickets are in section 2.
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That's exactly what it is. According to the head athletic trainer at the school I went to.
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I just bit any fingers that came through. Rarely was a repeat problem.
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Um......Russell Wilson looking kinda like a pro.
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Mike Vick and Drew Brees aren't bad either.
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watching the Navy game from last year on Hulu and forgot how it was still a ball game half way through the second quarter. That lateral turnover by Tommy that lead to Navy's first td was lust plain ugly. They go from being up 14-0 and moving the ball to giving them life and a 14-7 score. Man, I hope Golson plays well and stays the starter, not sure if I can watch any more Tommy Rees. (no offense to the kid)
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EDIT: Russell Wilson might actually make it. Which is incredible for someone sub-6'... just look at how Kellen Moore never even got a shot. Also incredible considering he was a consensus 2
prospect.... all things considered, I have a feeling that after Pete Carroll gets fired that Russell Wilson will see the pine with the new coach and then float around the league like a Doug Flutie-esque journeyman... a guy clearly capable of playing QB at a high level but doesn't fit the "mold" of a franchise QB.Here is Wilson's statline from last year: 225 of 309 for 3,175 yds and 33 TDs with 4 INTs and a 72.8% completion percentage. 79 rushes for 338 yards and 6 TDs. I think that's basically the ceiling for Everett.
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The Stanford and USC games were not pretty, for sure. But, we weren't totally outclassed. Yeah, they were getting pressure right down our middle, but thats because they knew that TR wasn't running away from anything. If ND couldve rolled its QB out with the threat to run or buy time to throw the ball we would have made out with chunks of yardage.
We didn't get dominated by 30 points like the Weis/Willingham days where we were just totally outclassed. Kelly has closed the gap in talent, and we will be competitive this year in every game. I think this is the year we see "Kelly's" team take the field for 12 games
We didn't get dominated by 30 points like the Weis/Willingham days where we were just totally outclassed. Kelly has closed the gap in talent, and we will be competitive this year in every game. I think this is the year we see "Kelly's" team take the field for 12 games
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Interesting point. As much as our lack of quarterback dimension cost us we still were in it by teams that rocked our socks under W & W.
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Yeah. I am being a little more cautious. I am all about Golson starting, and am very excited to see him play but he's not going to walk into the role as a 4 year starter like Russel Wilson. He's going to have growing pains, have to stare down a lot of pressure from the media as well as trying to avoid getting pancaked and missing some games. If he can stay within himself and not worry about the outside pressures, he can grow really fast relying on his physical abilities all the while winning games.
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How did Russel do his first year?
Your previous post inferred we may have the vehicle for his success and the team motivation in place, so maybe Everett will start with a bang. I am pretty sure that Everett has been specifically coached about the media, he looked far more unconfortable yesterday than he did last year when talking about music and his family . . . My two cents.
Your previous post inferred we may have the vehicle for his success and the team motivation in place, so maybe Everett will start with a bang. I am pretty sure that Everett has been specifically coached about the media, he looked far more unconfortable yesterday than he did last year when talking about music and his family . . . My two cents.
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I believe Everett's talent could ignite the offense, but I am going to reserve annointing him the next Tony Rice without seeing him handle a collegiate snap. I am cautiously optimistic that Golson will take off, I am simply acknowledging that the kid will need to grow in many areas in and out of football, and those areas are magnified 120x at ND. Look at Dayne Crist, great talent but could not wrap his head around being the QB at ND.