'19 CA ATH Isaiah Foskey (Notre Dame Signee)

[domer13]

Yeah but people around here say we're doing well in regards to NIL with current players.. Stop it.

Foskey said he recently spoke to a Notre Dame signee who had a far more lucrative NIL offer elsewhere.

“The price difference was so big, I wouldn’t know what to do,” Foskey said. “There’s so much pressure on the player and his family. … You can make NIL money when you’re at Notre Dame. You just have to work for it.”

Foskey told NFL media that he made money with the Fighting Irish through apparel sales and autographs over his final two seasons and was appreciative.

 

[Luckylucci]

I guess I appreciate his honesty but I'd like to have that quote back. On the big stage he's saying he'd go elsewhere for the money. C'mon Isaiah. Don't do ND like that.

 

[irish2104]

Right?? I mean what is the point? Why burn bridges like that?? Would think that is also a NFL turn off… think before you speak… what is he gaining by saying that?

 

[notredomer23]

I don't think Sam Hartman will have that same response.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Right?? I mean what is the point? Why burn bridges like that?? Would think that is also a NFL turn off… think before you speak… what is he gaining by saying that?

Burning bridges?
Or lighting a fire under the Admins asses?

Maybe he's fueling something more

 

[irishff1014]

Those comments don’t come off as positive.

 

[irish2104]

Burning bridges?
Or lighting a fire under the Admins asses?

Maybe he's fueling something more

That’s a good point

 

[fightingirish26]

I just don't think foskey is as concerned with the immediate future of ND football compared to most of us. He's just being honest, not doing PR.

 

[Free Manera]

“I feel like I wouldn’t have gone to Notre Dame if there was NIL when I was coming into college,” Foskey told the San Francisco Chronicle at the combine. “It would have been pretty hard to go there, and stay there, given the amount of money other schools are throwing around.”

Don't sugarcoat tell us how you really feel!

 

[bumpdaddy]

I just don't think foskey is as concerned with the immediate future of ND football compared to most of us. He's just being honest, not doing PR.

No, he's not. He thinks he is but he's not painting a complete picture and honesty requires acknowledging the complete picture. We all know by now a lot of those big NIL offers aren't real. A lot of the bag-chasing athletes are getting burned with BS NIL offers. And those are just the ones we know about. Sure, some athletes are getting what they were promised, but hardly any of them are getting set-for-life money, at least in terms of set-for-life as a teenager. 98% of them will still never make it to the NFL. And of those that make the NFL, most of them will be done within a few years. That NIL money will dry up very fast for most. They all will need to fall back on something else at some point and I believe the bag-chasers are the ones who are the most likely to be unprepared for their futures beyond the age of 30.

If Foskey thinks he could go back in time as a 17-year-old and navigate the wild-west NIL waters better than the current crop of disillusioned bag-chasers then he's kidding himself.

 

[stlnd01]

I just don't think foskey is as concerned with the immediate future of ND football compared to most of us. He's just being honest, not doing PR.

Yep. He doesn't need to carry water for the football program at this point. And he's probably had a million conversations about all this with his teammates, and maybe recruits (like Keon Keeley?). He's just reflecting the reality of where we're at with NIL compared with other schools. That's on Notre Dame, not Foskey.

 

[pumpdog20]

Don't ask a dude questions if you don't want his honest opinion.

 

[T-Boone]

ND still gets plenty of guys who are ranked about where he was ranked. It’s just the 5 stars.

 

[CanadalovesND]

I don’t think this is anything bad. It’s just the context you perceive it.

You can make money through NIL at ND. It varies from player to player due to status and “fame”.

Foskey is essentially saying he would have taken a “pay for play” or “guaranteed contract” coming out of De La Salle. As some recruits are doing now, while others are not.

 

[NDohio]

I think IF is looking at this from the angle of how successful he became, not what his HS rankings were. I am not sure he would have been offered the big NIL money like you hear about with the high four and five star players. He may think that he would have had offers that would take him away from ND, but would he really have gotten that kind of $$?

 

[Luckylucci]

You don't have to "carry water" for the University of Notre Dame in order to make a more measured statement about the value the school presents a student athlete versus just dollars and cents.

 

[Irish4life]

Doesn't really tell us anything we don't already know about ND and NIL. It's on them to change their approach to it.

 

[Irish4life]

 

[stlnd01]

You don't have to "carry water" for the University of Notre Dame in order to make a more measured statement about the value the school presents a student athlete versus just dollars and cents.

It's one quote in response to one question at one press conference. He's allowed to have an opinion.
Foskey was a captain who came back for a fourth season at Notre Dame and got his degree when he could have easily jumped to the draft last year. I'm confident he deeply understands the value of the place, but he doesn't need to give a speech on it every time he answers a question about NIL.

 

[Fbolt]

All the "Foskey be pragmatic" peeps "and tell the complete ND story" above losing their shit during gameday threads-Bwahaha

 

[Luckylucci]

It's one quote in response to one question at one press conference. He's allowed to have an opinion.
Foskey was a captain who came back for a fourth season at Notre Dame and got his degree when he could have easily jumped to the draft last year. I'm confident he deeply understands the value of the place, but he doesn't need to give a speech on it every time he answers a question about NIL.

As evidence by his statement above, it was clearly important to more than just a few of us here that he set the record straight. That speaks for itself.

 

[ACamp1900]

Fos to the ND soy boys,… ‘shut up and nut up!’

 

[ndfanatic78]

I don't think Sam Hartman will have that same response.

Sam Hartman didn’t come to ND for NIL.

 

[Irish8248]

Sam Hartman didn’t come to ND for NIL.

A heisman contending qb at ND would make 7 figures, easily. A NC Heisman winning qb st ND would make 8 figures.

I think if you believe in yourself as being that good and the structure/system around you can compliment you, then it should be pretty easy to envision the likelihood above. So while he may not have had a guarantee he is buying stock in the potential which is, if I recall, really how ND sells their NIL.

 

[NDRock]

ND still gets plenty of guys who are ranked about where he was ranked. It’s just the 5 stars.

True. Unfortunately we need those 5 stars to actually win a championship.

 

[IrishLax]

What he said will do more positives for ND in the long run than people can imagine. ND is never proactive, and mainly reacts to shame/embarrassment/failure/anger.

Him saying that he talked to a current signee who passed up large $$$ to come to ND and lots of guys might not make that decision *cough* Keeley, Bowen, Moore… *cough* is the first time some on the “inside” has definitively torpedoed ND’s narrative about how they’re operating in the NIL space.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

What he said will do more positives for ND in the long run than people can imagine. ND is never proactive, and mainly reacts to shame/embarrassment/failure/anger.

Him saying that he talked to a current signee who passed up large $$$ to come to ND and lots of guys might not make that decision *cough* Keeley, Bowen, Moore… *cough* is the first time some on the “inside” has definitively torpedoed ND’s narrative about how they’re operating in the NIL space.

Devil's advocate: Or, it further validates their approach...that some guys, who are "true ND men" will choose the degree over the bag, while all others who take the money "just aren't a fit for ND in the long run."

 

[notredomer23]

Sam Hartman didn’t come to ND for NIL.

This isn't accurate. It wasn't the primary reason he came to ND, but he signed a fat guaranteed deal with FUND and other NIL ND partners. Could he have made more elsewhere? Probably. Doesn't change the fact he's instantly going to be one of the highest paid players on the team.

 

[Irish4life]

Sam Hartman didn’t come to ND for NIL.

NIL was absolutely a major factor in getting Sam Hartman to ND.

 

[tecateparty]

NIL was absolutely a major factor in getting Sam Hartman to ND.

Yeah... thinking otherwise is just wrong and not realistic.