'19 CA ATH Isaiah Foskey (Notre Dame Signee)

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Disagree on this. This type of drill heavily favors the Defensive Line as there are no other OL/TE/RB trying to block them if they pull off an unrealistic inside spin move or wide arcing outside rush. It's a totally unrealistic drill IMO
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OLs are at a disadvantage in those drills, yes, but that doesn't mean DLs are expected to win every rep. Stalemates happen quite frequently and a stalemate doesn't automatically mean a loss for the DL.
 
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Just wanted to update this to point out that Foskey didn't actually play in the Senior Bowl. Neither did Patterson and neither did several of the other top players who were practicing all week. It's likely their agents told them they had done enough in practices and it wasn't worth playing in the game.
 
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bumpdaddy said:
Just wanted to update this to point out that Foskey didn't actually play in the Senior Bowl. Neither did Patterson and neither did several of the other top players who were practicing all week. It's likely their agents told them they had done enough in practices and it wasn't worth playing in the game.
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Most NFL scouts leave town after the Thursday practices


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Most NFL scouts leave town after the Thursday practices


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The scouts don't need to be there to watch the game. They can see everything on TV just like everyone else, so I don't think the scouts not being there in person was a major factor. The point is they all felt they had shown enough during the week and their stock wasn't going to increase by playing in the game. The players that did play in the game and played well will likely see their stock increase so it's not like playing in the game is totally pointless.
 
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The scouts don't need to be there to watch the game. They can see everything on TV just like everyone else, so I don't think the scouts not being there in person was a major factor. The point is they all felt they had shown enough during the week and their stock wasn't going to increase by playing in the game. The players that did play in the game and played well will likely see their stock increase so it's not like playing in the game is totally pointless.
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Hope so. I watched highlights hoping to see their gold helmets. Read that both had ok/decent practices. Best of luck fellas
 
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The scouts don't need to be there to watch the game. They can see everything on TV just like everyone else, so I don't think the scouts not being there in person was a major factor. The point is they all felt they had shown enough during the week and their stock wasn't going to increase by playing in the game. The players that did play in the game and played well will likely see their stock increase so it's not like playing in the game is totally pointless.
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From what I’ve read before the scouts don’t even watch the games back it’s irrelevant to them apparently


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From what I’ve read before the scouts don’t even watch the games back it’s irrelevant to them apparently


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That's silly. Even if somehow that's true it would be stupid to ignore the actual game since the scouts have been and will be pouring over game film of these prospects until draft day.
 
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That's silly. Even if somehow that's true it would be stupid to ignore the actual game since the scouts have been and will be pouring over game film of these prospects until draft day.
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It's not really silly. This game is a glorified scrimmage - equivalent to a spring game. What matters is how these guys practiced and carried themselves through the week.
 
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It's not really silly. This game is a glorified scrimmage - equivalent to a spring game. What matters is how these guys practiced and carried themselves through the week.
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That's not true either. It's not like the Pro Bowl (or what used to be the Pro Bowl). These guys play hard - a lot harder than they were allowed to play during the practices where there was no tackling and not much 11 on 11 - because they want to stand out and get noticed as much as possible.

The Senior Bowl practices are extremely important for getting evaluated by NFL scouts but that doesn't mean scouting completely stops once the game is actually played. If it did then there would be no point in any of them risking injury and playing in the game.
 
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NDohio said:
It's not really silly. This game is a glorified scrimmage - equivalent to a spring game. What matters is how these guys practiced and carried themselves through the week.
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Do the scouts watch the spring game?
 
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That's not true either. It's not like the Pro Bowl (or what used to be the Pro Bowl). These guys play hard - a lot harder than they were allowed to play during the practices where there was no tackling and not much 11 on 11 - because they want to stand out and get noticed as much as possible.

The Senior Bowl practices are extremely important for getting evaluated by NFL scouts but that doesn't mean scouting completely stops once the game is actually played. If it did then there would be no point in any of them risking injury and playing in the game.
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Do the scouts watch the spring game?
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The main point is that the practices are waaaaay more important to the scouts than the games. The games are simply the reason that all these athletes came together to have these practices. If the game was so important why do players - every year - attend all these practices and then opt out of the game? If the game is so important then why do the scouts leave at the end pf the practices and not stay for the games?
 
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The main point is that the practices are waaaaay more important to the scouts than the games. The games are simply the reason that all these athletes came together to have these practices. If the game was so important why do players - every year - attend all these practices and then opt out of the game? If the game is so important then why do the scouts leave at the end pf the practices and not stay for the games?
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I'm the one who brought up the topic of opt-outs in this thread. I already answered the 2 questions you asked. The players who opted out likely did so because they believed they did enough during practices that playing in the game would not have improved their draft stock. And scouts don't need to be there because the game was going to be broadcast on TV.

But having said that, I said those things based on Dublinirish's assertion that most scouts leave town. Most doesn't mean all and it's extremely likely that at least some scouts stick around which means they aren't sticking around to not care about how the players play in the game. They were still scouting and evaluating. And the ones who weren't there were doing the same from their offices on their TVs.

Also, I said several of the top players opted out. I didn't say all. Andre Carter (DE, Army) was a borderline 1st rounder on most draft boards heading into the week. He struggled a bit in practices so he played. Tyjae Spears was a top-10 RB prospect who had a very good week of practice and he still played. And why would they have done that if the scouts didn't care and weren't even there? Why would any of the players have played and risked injury?

Because the scouts did care and they were watching.
 
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If Mayer clocked in at 6’5” 265 and ran a 4.64 we’d be ecstatic. That’s a v good time for Foskey.
 
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Yeah but people around here say we're doing well in regards to NIL with current players.. Stop it.
 
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