'18 PA QB Phil Jurkovec (Wherever I May Roam Chud)

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those last two throws didn't even give his guys a chance.
should have left the backup in who is a better passer.
 

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He's literally done nothing the entire 2nd half though. People were slobbering all over him while Clemson was playing like ass. He's going 3 and out now.

Was Clemson playing bad or was BC playing well?

He obviously didn't play very well in the second half. He's also playing against the Dallas Cowboys with the Little Giants. He's done pretty well for himself in general.

We'd be very happy to see Book hang in there that well.
 

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How is that grounding? There was a running back like 3 yards away?

That said he walked right into pressure there.
 

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Clock struck midnight. I stand by my earlier statements. Let’s see if our offense gets 3 TDs next week.
 

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Honestly 1st half PJ>>>>>>Book. But then when we get through the whole game Book and PJ probably equal out.


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Can any smart folks tell me how that is grounding? There is literally an eligible guy right there? Isn't it a legal throw if you have a guy even relatively nearby?
 

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Can any smart folks tell me how that is grounding? There is literally an eligible guy right there? Isn't it a legal throw if you have a guy even relatively nearby?

I agree. The RB was there on the goal line. Now, it still was illegal touching so there’s that.
 

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Clock struck midnight. I stand by my earlier statements. Let’s see if our offense gets 3 TDs next week.

I hope we score at least 3TDs next week, but there's no way Clemson comes in and sleep walks through the first half like they did today. Plus if their backup plays he now has a full game of experience under his belt, he finished the game very strong.
 

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I hope we score at least 3TDs next week, but there's no way Clemson comes in and sleep walks through the first half like they did today. Plus if their backup plays he now has a full game of experience under his belt, he finished the game very strong.

I think our D is a big step from BC though. The 1 game experience will certainly help him, but it's still a big step up in talent.
 

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I hope we score at least 3TDs next week, but there's no way Clemson comes in and sleep walks through the first half like they did today. Plus if their backup plays he now has a full game of experience under his belt, he finished the game very strong.
I think our D is a big step from BC though. The 1 game experience will certainly help him, but it's still a big step up in talent.
Doesn't matter. Lawrence will 100% be the QB for Clemson next week.

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Doesn't matter. Lawrence will 100% be the QB for Clemson next week.

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Maybe. I think 100% is a bit silly though. He's got to be negative plus hit all the marks. Unless Clemson has a magic cure, just no way no how he will test. That, and all eyes are on him and this.

I'll add that him not playing, and if so, possibly losing, likely has little or no impact their shot at the CFP, so not sure how much pressure they would feel to short cut things. If they lose without him, it would be a big "*" on the loss. They wouldn't drop out of the top 4, and would likely default to default in if they finished the rest of the regular season regardless of playing in the ACCC or not.
 

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I'll throw gasoline on this fire. What-the-he!l it'll help pass the time.

I didn't think that the Jurkovec that I saw in this game was particularly good. I didn't think that he was horrible either, though at several moments he was horrible.

The Jurkovec that I saw happens to be EXCEPTIONALLY good at finding effective scrambling situations within an ordinary play-calling situation --- really good at escaping and rolling up twenty yard gains with sneaky speed and muscle. In seriously desperate situations he was really bad however, and his devolving into playground ball would give most OCs strokes. Really loose with his ball security and his awareness of down and distance and his naive belief that he can beat any rush even if it means going backwards with his back turned to the play.

Some of his regular passes were good; some weren't anywhere close to good. His successful bombs that everyone seems enchanted with were (to my eye) "throw it way up there and hope" throws. I have rarely seen a guy's receivers step up and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat like some of those guys did --- damm, talk about helping your QB out. Now I know that many will say that he was giving his guys a chance, but wow ...

Does this guy have potential? He!l yes. Is he ANYWHERE near there yet? He!l no. Maybe he's Heisman in two more years ... I'll bet that he sets BC records for turnovers getting there.
 

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Jurkovec was on fire in the first half. Even with a stinker in the second half he finished with an 85 QBR against Clemson. That’s the best anyone has done against them in a long time. If Book plays at that level next week, ND probably wins.
 

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Jurkovec was on fire in the first half. Even with a stinker in the second half he finished with an 85 QBR against Clemson. That’s the best anyone has done against them in a long time. If Book plays at that level next week, ND probably wins.

It was less Jurkovec and more Clemson playing like crap. Once they made adjustments and got their heads out of their asses BC couldn't move the ball at all. Their defense will be locked in next week for 4 quarters.
 
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Jurkovec played extremely well for the first 2 drives. After that, he was pretty bad against a defense that, while talented, was missing a lot of key personnel, namely James Skalski, who is the QB of the defense and their leader, as well as starting DT Tyler Davis and starting CB Derion Kendrick. While Clemson's defense is still very good, they're not the same group that ND went up against in the Cotton Bowl 2 years ago.

Jurkovec roared out of the gate, going 4/6 for 107 yards and added 27 yards rushing. That's nearly 18 yards a reception and nearly 17 yards per play from him.

However, after that. It was a completely different story. From that point on, he went 9/19 for 101 yards and lost 35 yards. That is bad. The one big play I recall from outside of those two opening drives was the 2nd TD by Jurkovec, which in all fairness, should've been picked off. It was a low throw and had the defensive back not been falling and been paying attention, that is a pretty easy turnover.

Yes, he was bailed out a lot of times today, and has been a few times, which is why Jurkovec still has a lot to work on. It was no different against Duke, Texas State, UNC and especially true v. Virginia Tech. Phil is going to let it rip a lot more often, and that can sometimes lead to being superior to Book. However, that is a double-edged sword.

Sometimes, it works, like the beginning of the Clemson game. Other times, it backfires, like against Virginia Tech. He made a ton of risky throws against Tech and Tech took advantage and created opportunistic turnovers as a result and blew Phil and BC out of the water.
 

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For those of you that watched the game: On the punt return TD that was nullified, were the call/calls legit and were they what sprung the play. I left the room during the play and it sounded like the announcers were questioning at least one of the flags as I walked back in.

Simple math says that was the difference in the game but to be honest, it looked like Clemson could've made up any difference on BC's D once DJ Ukelele got into his grove.
 

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Key drive of the game =

Towards the end of the 3rd w/ BC still up 28-26, with BC starting on their 25, Phil got them into Clemson territory but BC had a couple of bad penalties that stalled the drive forcing a punt. BC's punter put the first punt on the 1 but penalty killed it, he put the next punt on the 3 but that was also wiped out by another penalty.

Phil started that drive off 3/3 for 43 yards until the penalties made the wheels come off.
 

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I wonder what his QBR rating would have been without those two TD receivers acting like supermen on those "hopeful" passes?

... and to folks thinking that BC stinks everywhere but QB, they have a very good looking defense with some excellent individuals, and several of their offensive pieces are good. (especially the receiving corps.)
 

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I wonder what his QBR rating would have been without those two TD receivers acting like supermen on those "hopeful" passes?

... and to folks thinking that BC stinks everywhere but QB, they have a very good looking defense with some excellent individuals, and several of their offensive pieces are good. (especially the receiving corps.)

Agree with you that his QBR wouldn't be as good if it wasn't for those two TDs however PJ did something that Book doesn't do and thats give his WR a chance and take a hit in the pocket. I don't want Book to go full gunslinger and be careless but when you have a tall WR or TE on a one on one you have to throw the 50/50 ball in bounds and not into the 10 row. At times you see a lot more Rees in Book and I just don't like it. Book is a good scrambler but he rarely steps up in the pocket and it's hard for me to remember when the last time was that he stood in the pocket to deliver a pass and take a hit on the chin.
 

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I wonder what his QBR rating would have been without those two TD receivers acting like supermen on those "hopeful" passes?

... and to folks thinking that BC stinks everywhere but QB, they have a very good looking defense with some excellent individuals, and several of their offensive pieces are good. (especially the receiving corps.)

I wonder what Book's QBR would be if he gave his WRs chances to make plays more than 5 yards down field once in a while.

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