'17 PA DT Donovan Jeter (Michigan Verbal)

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per 247 in touching base w/ MULTIPLE sources his preference is STILL to end up at ND...
Crystal Ball remains on Notre Dame for Donovan Jeter

loy made a comment in response to what someone else was commenting on and it APPEARED this could be related to seeing if BK gets let go or not (likes BK for that matter)

There's a good question for everyone...

Would you rather keep BK and all our recruits or get a new coach and lose all our recruits?
 

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There's a good question for everyone...

Would you rather keep BK and all our recruits or get a new coach and lose all our recruits?

Million dollar question... depends on who the replacement coach is...
 

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on the flip side there is a poster on 247 who stated he knows the situation and stated " he's going to Pitt no mater what and to not believe anything that happens until the day he shows up on a campus":gossip:
 

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There's a good question for everyone...

Would you rather keep BK and all our recruits or get a new coach and lose all our recruits?

That's just not what happens in real life though.

But if I have to answer I'm saying new coach, lose recruits because if the recruit isn't committed to the school I don't want them anyway.
 

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There's a good question for everyone...

Would you rather keep BK and all our recruits or get a new coach and lose all our recruits?

As worded, keep Kelly. But they wouldn't lose ALL the recruits, I doubt they'd lose 5 total including Jeter. I'd be happy giving up 4, if i was the one picking the 4.
 

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As worded, keep Kelly. But they wouldn't lose ALL the recruits, I doubt they'd lose 5 total including Jeter. I'd be happy giving up 4, if i was the one picking the 4.

I feel the same way. What 4 would you pick hypothetically...because Jeter wouldn't be one for me
 

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on the flip side there is a poster on 247 who stated he knows the situation and stated " he's going to Pitt no mater what and to not believe anything that happens until the day he shows up on a campus":gossip:

Loy'd
 

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That's just not what happens in real life though.

But if I have to answer I'm saying new coach, lose recruits because if the recruit isn't committed to the school I don't want them anyway.
And why delay the inevitable. I mean would you rather switch coaches now, him start recruiting his guys, and success come in a few years. Or stay with Kelly and his recruits, be mediocre for 5 years, then change coaches and begin the process of recruiting, the in 8 years be successful. And I don't believe we'd lose all the recruits and we'd also gain some with the new coach. I'll take the option that brings success faster.
 

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This is what drives me nuts about Loy.

If we are 7-0, 6-1 he wouldn't even think about decommitting. Put there is a TON of pressure for him to go to Pitt and even his own brother is giving him flack. He probably got caught up in the moment and really ND was the second visit he pretty much ever took and committed that night. The flare wears off and he still gets the same Pitt pressure even from his own family to stay at home.

It doesn't help one bit we are 2-5 with no defensive coordinator and a team and coaching staff that is very lost right now. Make it's impossible to recruit and ND has a lot of blood in the water right now that sharks are attacking. You know your program has gone to complete shit when Pitt can negative recruit you and basically land a kid you need so damn bad.

Back to Loy is I am sure Jeter told him " Don't worry bro, ND is still my top school and I just want to look around a little bit" Loy uses his source and believes a 16 year old kid instead of digging and a guy who has been doing this for YEARS can't even realize these things never work out. He can say all the right things on twitter he wants but at the ND of the day ND is a 2-5 football team, no D cord, no sense of direction and it makes it almost impossible to recruit right now and try and hold on to our own guys. He has already used his OV and with him never visiting any other schools then Pitt and maybe PSU I don't want to speculate but I can't see him coming back on his own dime. I give Kelly credit because we never have decommitments and that's fine and dandy but I won't even start on how many misses he has had or let slip through his fingers. If he lands some of those kids where ND was so fcking close to landing I promise you we aren't a 2-5 football team. That's why we need to upgrade the recruiting staff and Kelly needs to let go of his boys but that's a convo for another day. But Loy is the same guy who had JuJu Smith CB to ND two nights before signing day when EVERYBODY!! knew he was a USC lock from the beginning even though he did like Oregon for a few weeks. I doubt ND was even in his top 4, sometimes you just have to move on Thomas and not always listen to what these kids are saying and just follow what is going on in the situation. Of course these kids will tell you what you wanna hear.

Good luck at Pitt Donvan and I look forward to watching my team kick Pitt's ass in the near future

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It's a good thing recruiting is a marathon and not a sprint. By January there could be a high level D coordinator in place.


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Unless you are 100% committed to ND like a David Adams, I'd be looking around right now too, especially if I'm a D Lineman and i have no idea not only who is coming in but what scheme is coming with him.

Throw on top of that BK's situation and it's not surprising.

As far as not coming back, he's got 4 guys that drive within 5 minutes of his house on their regular trips to SB. He can catch a ride anytime he wants. Very different situation vs. if it was Adebo or Young.
 

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There's a good question for everyone...

Would you rather keep BK and all our recruits or get a new coach and lose all our recruits?

Pointless question since Coach Kelly isn't going anywhere. Like Pete Sampson noted in the podcast if there were a game between Kelly stays or Kelly goes, Kelly stays would be a 38 point favorite.
 

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My take on Jeter has always been he was a soft commit. He didn't have us as a finalist in the summer. Hinish and Adams convince him to visit. He comes for the MSU game and immediately commits. It all seemed like a "caught up in the moment" commit.
 

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Unless you are 100% committed to ND like a David Adams, I'd be looking around right now too, especially if I'm a D Lineman and i have no idea not only who is coming in but what scheme is coming with him.

Throw on top of that BK's situation and it's not surprising.

As far as not coming back, he's got 4 guys that drive within 5 minutes of his house on their regular trips to SB. He can catch a ride anytime he wants. Very different situation vs. if it was Adebo or Young.

They (recruits) know what the defense will look like. It is going to be what Kelly wants. He's not giving total control again to someone like BVG.
 

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Pointless question since Coach Kelly isn't going anywhere. Like Pete Sampson noted in the podcast if there were a game between Kelly stays or Kelly goes, Kelly stays would be a 38 point favorite.

That's reality and nobody's got time for that.

Perception is hot seat - click bait talk and message board moanings that lead many to believe he's one foot out the door, including recruits.
 

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That's reality and nobody's got time for that.

Perception is hot seat - click bait talk and message board moanings that lead many to believe he's one foot out the door, including recruits.

Very true Crusader except for the recruits part. I'm not concerned about losing any of our recruits and I don't believe for a second that Jeter's decision has anything to do with that.
 

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“I don’t want to play for a mediocre school,” he said. “I don’t want to play for a team that goes like 7-6. I want to go to a school that plays in the big bowl games or plays in the College Football Playoff. I don’t want to go to an average school because I don’t think I’m an average player. I want to make big time plays on a big time stage.”

Oh my. Link to the interview here.
 

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Very true Crusader except for the recruits part. I'm not concerned about losing any of our recruits and I don't believe for a second that Jeter's decision has anything to do with that.

I'm not worried. I don't think that the situation is what directly changed his mind. But I wouldn't rule out there was pressure he succumbed to that maybe wouldn't have been there if BVG worked out and ND was say 6-1.
 

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'17 PA DT Donovan Jeter (Offer)

'17 PA DT Donovan Jeter (Offer)

I love scumbag schools that actively recruit a player when he is committed to another school. Like what Greg Mattison and Michigan do.

If he wants to be in big games and playoffs, then he should not attend Pitt.


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I love scumbag schools that actively recruit a player when he is committed to another school. Like what Greg Mattison and Michigan do.


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LOL. ND's never flipped anyone proactively. Our coaches are fishing at Potato Creek when they get the flip call out of the blue. Come on Sherm! lol
 

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'17 PA DT Donovan Jeter (Offer)

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You mean like Notre Dame?



What recruit that was committed to another school did Notre Dame reach out to? Not the player reaching out to Notre Dame, but Notre Dame reached out to them? Maybe Max Redfield?

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What recruit that was commuted to another school did Notre Fame reach out to? Not the player reaching out to Notre Dame, but Notre Dame reached out to them? Maybe Max Redfield?


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Edit: wait, I misunderstood. I don't know whether that happens or not.
 

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Here's the entire transcript from PittsburghSprotsNow.com:

Exclusive: Donovan Jeter On Decommitting From Notre Dame | Pittsburgh Sports Now

Four-star defensive lineman Donovan Jeter, younger brother of Pitt basketball forward Sheldon Jeter, has de-committed from Notre Dame and re-opened his recruitment, Jeter said in an exclusive interview at Beaver Falls High School Tuesday.

Jeter said that he’s still considering Notre Dame, but after having some second thoughts about his commitment, he’s going to take his time and make sure he explores all of his options. Jeter had committed to Notre Dame right after taking a visit there, something he later came to regret.

“I was on like an emotional high there,” Jeter recalled of his late September visit to South Bend. “They had crowd going crazy, the planes flying over. When you get there, they treat you like kings. I just felt a lot of love. On the plane ride home, I told my mom and dad I wanted to commit and they were all for it. My dad was the one that said, ‘I think you need to see some more colleges.’”

Since Jeter committed, Notre Dame has gone 1-3 with losses to Duke, North Carolina State and Stanford. Head coach Brian Kelly has fired his defensive coordinator and some have even called for his dismissal. Jeter said that a phone call with Michigan defensive line coach Greg Mattison put things into perspective for him.

“[Mattison] was like I still want you real bad,” Jeter recalled. “I look and Michigan is undefeated and Notre Dame is 2-5. Nothing against Notre Dame. They’ve had some tough losses. … I have to find a place that’s home and a place that fits me. Notre Dame fits me. But I want to explore my options. I went on one visit and committed. That’s like marrying the first girl you kissed. You have to explore. That’s what I’m doing.”

Jeter said that Pitt, Penn State, Tennessee and Alabama have been in touch with him throughout the process and Oklahoma called with an offer “two minutes after he de-committed.” This time, Jeter is in no hurry to make his decision.

“I’m probably going to take some more [visits]. I’m probably going to take one or two. I’m not sure yet,” he said. “I don’t want to commit during the playoffs. That would be selfish. So, I’ll wait until after the season. Hopefully, sometime in December. … I’m not worried about it. My main focus right now is just to win a championship. I have plenty of time to decide. I don’t leave until January.”

Jeter said he definitely isn’t ready to narrow his choices down. He said that he’s frequently changed his mind about what he thought he was going to do throughout the process, both before he committed and since.

“With me, it changes every week,” he said. “One time, Pitt was my top school. One time, Michigan was my top school. Obviously, Notre Dame was top school. One time Penn State was my top school. One time Ohio State was my top school. I’m not even going to post on Twitter what my top schools are because I know it’ll change in a heartbeat.”

When Jeter spoke with Pittsburgh Sports Now over the summer, he said he was looking for a place that was like home. He’s added something to what’s important to him over that time, though. He wants a winner.

“I don’t want to play for a mediocre school,” he said. “I don’t want to play for a team that goes like 7-6. I want to go to a school that plays in the big bowl games or plays in the College Football Playoff. I don’t want to go to an average school because I don’t think I’m an average player. I want to make big time plays on a big time stage.”



One thing that be doesn’t mind is where he plays. Jeter started out getting recruited as a defensive tackle, but after losing 50 pounds this offseason, most of the teams that are talking to him see him as a defensive end.

“It doesn’t make a difference to me, honestly,” he said. “As long as I’m on the field, I feel like I can be a game changer.”

Jeter said he’s gotten some extreme reactions through social media about his recruitment, commitment to Notre Dame and now his de-commitment. He said that it’s hard to put it to the side some times, but he tries to use it as motivation.

“To me, I think I need to prove myself,” he said. “Every week, there’s some guy on Twitter or somebody that doesn’t think I’m good enough or thinks I’m overrated. That Aliquippa game — thank God I have some thick skin because I took some heat. I didn’t play that good. [People said] the game was on me. We played Central Valley last week and just destroyed it, and I got a lot of love, but there’s still some guy on Twitter saying, ‘I would have blown you off the ball.’ For me, I put the pressure on myself to always perform. I just have to.”

Jeter is graduating after this semester in order to enroll early in college and he has just two classes left to finish. He won’t be able to play basketball this winter because of his early enrollment. With his college decision pushed to December, he has the next month and a half to focus on his game and getting Beaver Falls to a championship. Right now, that’s the only plan.
 

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So much honesty in that article. Don't blame him at all.
 

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LOL. ND's never flipped anyone proactively. Our coaches are fishing at Potato Creek when they get the flip call out of the blue. Come on Sherm! lol



You have examples? Like I wrote earlier maybe Max Redfield. What recruit that flipped to Notre Dame, did Notre Dame reach out to? Not where the recruit reached out to he school.


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