'16 MI OLB Daelin Hayes (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[Blaise]

I feel like if he wanted to come to ND he would of.. However, he chose USC, now it looks like OSU.. Goodbye.. I don't need more drama.. I want guys on this team who want to bleed ND

 

[IrishLax]

We can all wax poetic about fit and Urban Liar and all that jazz but really the crux of everything is that Hayes is a calculated risk. He's a good use of 1 spot out of 85 because of his upside, but the odds of him panning out are low. Maybe 30%? No film, injury history, etc. but unquestionable athletic traits.

So if we get him, great. If not, probably doesn't matter when we look back in four years... but maybe just maybe he ends up being a total stud.

 

[IrishLion]

We can all wax poetic about fit and Urban Liar and all that jazz but really the crux of everything is that Hayes is a calculated risk. He's a good use of 1 spot out of 85 because of his upside, but the odds of him panning out are low. Maybe 30%? No film, injury history, etc. but unquestionable athletic traits.

So if we get him, great. If not, probably doesn't matter when we look back in four years... but maybe just maybe he ends up being a total stud.

Because karma and divine justice don't actually exist, he'll probably end up being a once-in-a-generation defensive tweener, and Urban's bullsh*t will be rewarded.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Because karma and divine justice don't actually exist, he'll probably end up being a once-in-a-generation defensive tweener, and Urban's bullsh*t will be rewarded.

Yep. My first thought as well. Hayes is the type of risk I like to take but if it's not in the cards, I'll be happy to sign someone else.

 

[BoredIrish]

Because karma and divine justice don't actually exist, he'll probably end up being a once-in-a-generation defensive tweener, and Urban's bullsh*t will be rewarded.

Yup. Hayes and Jashon Cornell will be the two bookends on a championship winning D line.

 

[beryirish]

Yup. Hayes and Jashon Cornell will be the two bookends on a championship winning D line.

with Justin Hilliard cleaning up everything behind them.

 

[Prof K]

I have no problem with D. Hayes saying nice things about each school he visits. He left OSU without having made a commitment, thus we may well be in play still. if he receives another visit from the ND staff, we are still seriously in play. It may be that he he doesn't have the grades, but we should have known that two weeks ago when ND seemed to give him the royal treatment. I am going to give the kid the benefit of the doubt and wait. He already made the mistake of committing to U$C and then de-committing, he ought not do it again.

 

[PANDFAN]

Let alone if Meyer pushes him out before he can early enroll!

I almost wouldn't put that past UM.

The between the lines on this one would be that Hayes doesn't really have the grades for ND, let alone early enrollment.

That makes the most sense, short of a bagman offering tons of cash to his parents.

Anyone have any information on how DH stands with ND admissions?

yes he has been cleared

 

[ThePiombino]

I just fucking love how Lyer takes ND's main selling point and makes it OSU's. Like, fuck you.

 

[GoIrish41]

I have no problem with D. Hayes saying nice things about each school he visits. He left OSU without having made a commitment, thus we may well be in play still. if he receives another visit from the ND staff, we are still seriously in play. It may be that he he doesn't have the grades, but we should have known that two weeks ago when ND seemed to give him the royal treatment. I am going to give the kid the benefit of the doubt and wait. He already made the mistake of committing to U$C and then de-committing, he ought not do it again.

This.

 

[#1rish]

Another flavor-of-the-week recruit. Looking forward to his "blown away", "amazing" "believe in this" comments next week at MSU. Then the next week at Oregon, and then LSU.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

yes he has been cleared

Thanks! For early enrollment too, right?

I wonder if this speaks to other linebacker recruits that are coming in, including but not limited to McCulloch?

I just have it in my head that there is something basic at work here.

Ever since he tweeted the picture wearing the number 9, referring to 'being Jaylon Jr.'

I am not mad. I have no axe to grind, nor do I have a horse in this race. (I definitely wouldn't grind a horse.)

I am just really curious about the kids behaviors.

There is something.

 

[PANDFAN]

Thanks! For early enrollment too, right?

I wonder if this speaks to other linebacker recruits that are coming in, including but not limited to McCulloch?

I just have it in my head that there is something basic at work here.

Ever since he tweeted the picture wearing the number 9, referring to 'being Jaylon Jr.'

I am not mad. I have no axe to grind, nor do I have a horse in this race. (I definitely wouldn't grind a horse.)

I am just really curious about the kids behaviors.

There is something.

correct

 

[Luckylucci]

Thanks! For early enrollment too, right?

I wonder if this speaks to other linebacker recruits that are coming in, including but not limited to McCulloch?

I just have it in my head that there is something basic at work here.

Ever since he tweeted the picture wearing the number 9, referring to 'being Jaylon Jr.'

I am not mad. I have no axe to grind, nor do I have a horse in this race. (I definitely wouldn't grind a horse.)

I am just really curious about the kids behaviors.

There is something.

For me I think its less about this as OSU doesn't exactly have a dearth of talent at LB. Since 2014 OSU has signed some really talented LB's that'll be in front of Hayes.

JMO, but I think it has more to do with his personality. He really likes attention and whoever is willing to pine over him the most seems to get his attention. I think there could be some level of over compensating going on. How does a kid justify his 5 star status with so little actual game reps. Maybe by having Meyer fan you while feeding you grapes?

 

[phork]

Daelin Hayes: ‘I left Ohio State believing in coach Meyer’

The End.

 

[beryirish]

Regardless, I will still be bummed if he doesn't pick ND.

Dodging a bullet or not.

 

[SoDakDomer]

247- Hayes said top 3 of osu, msu,ND......Meyer didn't promise playing time but stated he isn't being recruited to redshirt

Meyer statements like this need their own thread so we can keep track of the lies. Next year at this time when the kid is reshirting we can add another one to the list of urban lies. I want to publish a book. The Urban Myths of Recruiting. I heard this kid is going to be the "Percy Harvin of the pass rush"

 

[Irish#1]

“All are even right now,”

“Notre Dame, it’s Notre Dame,” Hayes said Sunday night regarding his high interest in the Irish. “Notre Dame is where everyone thinks I’m committed too.”

“With Ohio State, they’re new, but with Coach (Tony) Alford, I’ve known him since I was a sophomore,” Hayes said. “I’ve known Coach Alford for so long and my mom loves Coach (Urban) Meyer more than any coach I’ve talked too. My pops loved Ohio State. This was his first trip he’s come on. I had a great time.”

“There were lots of things I took away from Ohio State. The opportunity after football. Coach Meyer does it with Real Life Wednesdays where players get a chance to talk with Fortune 500 companies and ESPN Analysts. Guys are leaving as seniors, or me coming as mid-year so I’ll grad in three and a half years, guys are leaving with degrees and degrees don’t promise you a job. At Ohio State players are leaving with degrees with four or five jobs offering six figures because of the opportunities Coach Meyer is presenting them. You’re getting a chance to establish relationships with his contacts and it’s not what you know it’s who you know. That was fantastic, their development of the man.
BAG MEN
“My mom loves Coach Meyer and getting on campus and meeting him for the first time, it was great and I really enjoyed myself.”

“Where it all started and they’ve been with me for the entire process,” Hayes said.

“This visit is getting back to where it all started. Where my recruiting process started. They’ve been with me through it all. It will be interesting. I can’t wait to get back down. I just look forward to seeing them play. I haven’t seen them play in a real game since my sophomore year.”

regarding a return trip to Notre Dame?

“I took one official and one unofficial, I’ve already seen everything I need to see from them,”
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247

Sure seems like he's shut the door on ND. Not much you can do. I'm afraid that if he were to choose ND, he would be a major headache.

 

[dublinirish]

Sure seems like he's shut the door on ND. Not much you can do. I'm afraid that if he were to choose ND, he would be a major headache.

when you listen to him speak on video he actually seems like a great kid. he's just very prone to hyperbole and seems to want to say every time what his interviewer wants him to say, if that makes sense?

 

[Irish#1]

Yup. Hayes and Jashon Cornell will be the two bookends on a championship winning D line.

Shut down by Harry Heistands vaunted O-line.

 

[GoIrish41]

I'm not ready to concede defeat in this recruitment. I think his hype about Urban will die down just as his hype about ND did following his visit. In home visits will be important here, IMO. Whomever makes the best late impression is likely to be the team he's playing for in the Spring.

 

[texbender]

Let the kid make his decision. While he certainly would be a great addition to the class and team, our coaches understand the process and surely are recruiting others to fill the team needs.

 

[OCIrish]

At this point I don't really care if he ends up in South Bend, or Columbus......

What sticks out to me, is the fact he discusses, with the writer, Urban's contacts and what they can do for him post college life.......did I miss something entirely about graduating from college?????? He's gonna graduate from tO$U, with some kind of degree, and have Urban help him get a job making 6 figures right out of school????? Would that be under the Aaron Hernandez portfolio????

 

[Luckylucci]

At this point I don't really care if he ends up in South Bend, or Columbus......

What sticks out to me, is the fact he discusses, with the writer, Urban's contacts and what they can do for him post college life.......did I miss something entirely about graduating from college?????? He's gonna graduate from tO$U, with some kind of degree, and have Urban help him get a job making 6 figures right out of school????? Would that be under the Aaron Hernandez portfolio????

Naw, it'd be under the, lets make up whatever shit possible to get this kid to sign with OSU portfolio.

 

[beryirish]

..

Lucky - put your money in the bank man. Let the mole hole grow into a mountain of cash.

 

[Prof K]

In a sense I am glad Mr. Hayes made public the UM recruiting strategy. It will be easier for others to point out the fallacies in what Meyer is saying.

 

[TDHeysus]

Meyer statements like this need their own thread so we can keep track of the lies. Next year at this time when the kid is reshirting we can add another one to the list of urban lies. I want to publish a book. The Urban Myths of Recruiting. I heard this kid is going to be the "Percy Harvin of the pass rush"

The Legend of Urban Liar continues....

 

[ACamp1900]

The best was when he was telling every recruit that Florida had the best grad rates in the country when UF was in the toilet in that regard.... if memory serves didn't he actually have someone cook up a flyer showing UF as the tops on that list???

 

[NDinL.A.]

I’m usually one who preaches patience with recruits that we expect to commit on our time (i.e. Tranquill a couple of years ago), but personally, I’m done with Hayes. Come, go, whatever.

He’s a kid who has barely played any tackle football, and when he has played, he hasn’t looked all-world and he gets hurt. He has shoulder issues. He’s an INCREDIBLE athlete in shorts and a T-shirt, but has yet to wow me with pads on. But whatever, I’m not a scout, so I have no problem with ND still pursuing him, even as he takes visits.

And the way he played USC, as much as I loved it, wasn’t exactly a shining indictment on his character. Even though he told everyone on ND’s side that he was going to decommit, he still lied to the USC coaches and told them multiple times he was still going to USC, even wearing their gear at every camp and visiting USC out of the blue (and re-stating his love for them) a few weeks before he decommitted. But it was USC so I overlooked it (even though I enjoyed it lol).

But my breaking point (and the worst part)? He and his family bought that Urban Meyer BS hook, line, and sinker. You want to go to OSU for the big-time football? I don’t blame you and God speed. But after visiting ND SEVERAL times (don’t buy his bs about visiting only twice) and knowing exactly what ND does for you, you’re seriously going to buy that line that OSU seniors are leaving school with multiple 6 figure job offers? For real?

Done with you. Great for our rankings if he signs with ND, but if he doesn’t, a big whatever from me. Please sign with Meyer and give him the same drama that a certain overrated LB from South Bend we let Meyer have. Please. He actually sounds like a great kid, but for me, I’m over this recruitment.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

He has more official visits than varsity games played. There will be others appearing on the radar. I just don't know how much of this I would be able to take as a coach. Has to suck kissing the asses of 17 year olds.