Who'saWildManNow
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From what I heard he was way behind and pretty buried depth wise. Like in over his head football wise.
'14 NY DT Pete Mokwuah (Notre Dame Signee)
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From what I heard he was way behind and pretty buried depth wise. Like in over his head football wise.
Sherm Sticky
The Prophet
I thought he was better conditioned and really started to pick it up at the end of spring.
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Irish YJ
Southsida
Agree, except Tillery
How many elite, ready to roll DE's, were there in freshman class across the country last year?
ColinKSU
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I think Tillery can be a great player, but if an offensive tackle recruit that no one knew could even play on the defensive line is ND's top "elite" defensive line recruit since 2011, that says a lot.
CanadalovesND
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Just two. Myles Garrett & Derek Barnett.
Irish YJ
Southsida
Pretty sure it was known. The services all just classed him as a higher impact OL.
Going to be a stone cold DL stud for us
To add, he's bigger than Day already, almost as big as Jones, and with a higher motor it seems than both.
zelezo vlk
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To go off of this, he played a lot of defensive line and LSU was even interested in him on the defensive line.
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Always so critical of my posts, it's no secret ND has really struggled recruiting the D line with difference makers like most championships teams that we so badly want to be
Exactly, folks expectations are ridiculous and don't match reality. So we missed on 2 players in the entire freshman class at this point. Really silly stuff
I am because it's the same story every time with no information to back it up. It's just complaint or sarcasm after complaint. Answer the question and think about it logically.
Fact, last year was the only year under Kelly where our D struggled.
IrishSteelhead
All Flair, No Substance
I'd still be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts (pun fully intended) whiffing on Matt Elam won't be a regret anytime soon.
Fact, ND has signed 7 top 250ish DL over 4 cycles. Is that enough no but it's far from struggling. It's more than quite a few team that are winning a lot of games. We just need to develop them. Wow, I sound like a broken record because I've said this so many times to count but it just goes over some heads.
I suppose Bama needs to recruit more "elite" DL because there D has been smoked a few times in the last two years.
They also have three championships in six years
IrishSteelhead
All Flair, No Substance
'14 NY DT Pete Mokwuah (Notre Dame Signee)
Not to mention a lot of the best recent college DT were rated on the low side as recruits. Terrence Cody, Will Sutton, Nick Fairley and Star Lotulelei, for example, were all low 3 stars. It's a crap shoot when dealing with guys that heavy, seeing who actually has a motor against guys just as big, and that doesn't happen until college.
Not to mention a lot of the best recent college DT were rated on the low side as recruits. Terrence Cody, Will Sutton, Nick Fairley and Star Lotulelei, for example, were all low 3 stars. It's a crap shoot when dealing with guys that heavy, seeing who actually has a motor against guys just as big, and that doesn't happen until college.
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Cackalacky
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Agree. I thought Lynch was gonna be far to small to play NFL and I was wrong. Also look what a hernia (right?) did to Tuitt. It basically killed his junior year. Thank God he went beast mode in 2013 on USC haha. He was unstoppable.
Based on what exactly? Talk?
Crazy Balki
Site Assigned Optimist
Spring practice. He came to campus in great shape, and looked like an elite DL. There aren't that many 6'7 300 pounders who can move like he can. He'll probably have some things to improve upon, but he's got the makings of a special player down the road.
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Cackalacky
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Irish YJ
Southsida
spring practice, talk by the services, talk by the coaches.
size, conditioning, motor, college ready...
already assumed #2 on the depth chart by most services.
Enough talk. Trust me, I would LOVE for him to be great but i wanna see it first before believing the hype.
Crazy Balki
Site Assigned Optimist
That's just how it is dude. It's all talk for every program. I'm sure Auburn fans are just as excited to see Byron Cowart produce in year 1. There's nothing wrong with that, and Tillery has looked physically and mentally way ahead of schedule. That is the main reason for excitement.
Irish YJ
Southsida
You're on a talk board, it's the summer... and you expect what....
Wish I could jump into my hot tub time machine too. Right now talk is all any of us have with a sprinkle of spring practice vid/news..
Haha, well done. You dont respond to any other post where I state facts rebutting what your saying about not recruiting quality DL accept to this one. Kudos.
Calabrese's People
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Looking for Pete Mokwuah updates...
Yes, we have brought in 7 good DL or rivals 250 kids over the years. Do I think any of them are great or elite? No, I think Trumbetti and Tillery will be good ones though which Tillery a shot at being great. Still my point was difference makers to play at a elite/ high level right away.
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Bogtrotter07
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What a perfect development for the struggle between the cup half full and cup half empty crowd, a muratureeum on proper spelling, and talking! Will it be enforced, by a boycout, a blokade, or a enforcement office?
PS what's going on with that Mokwuah guy?
With all the knowledge being thrown around this thread, I would think someone would have something substantial/
PS what's going on with that Mokwuah guy?
With all the knowledge being thrown around this thread, I would think someone would have something substantial/
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