'14 AZ QB Kyle Allen (Houston Transfer)

[IrishLax]

Bottom line is if we want both and we win one race we probably become heavy favorites in the other. Neither seems locked in to one school right now and both have ND in the top mix.

 

[IrishLax]

Offered by Ohio State. Smart self-preservation ploy by them.

 

[ThePiombino]

Bottom line is if we want both and we win one race we probably become heavy favorites in the other. Neither seems locked in to one school right now and both have ND in the top mix.

I thought I read Allen was an OU lean. Could be wrong...

 

[IrishLax]

I thought I read Allen was an OU lean. Could be wrong...

Can't call either a lean anywhere. And with Ohio State offering they might actually be team to beat. He camped there over the summer and had high interest in them.

 

[STLDomer]

Offered by Ohio State. Smart self-preservation ploy by them.

Quote from Kyle Allen

That might be the biggest one.

 

[IrishLax]

Quote from Kyle Allen

I think they knew they could wait because of his high interest and then after ND offered and they saw his decision schedule getting accelerated they pulled the trigger on the offer... and I think they did it more than anything to land Andrews.

If they really liked Allen, they would've offered him after he camped. They didn't. Ergo, they weren't impressed enough to have him near the top of their board and didn't see him as deserving an offer. Frankly, he doesn't really fit the mold of a typical Urban Meyer QB.

 

[ant80]

11W Article

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At 6-foot-4 and 190-pounds, Allen is a pro-style passer ranked 4th nationally by Rivals.com, but is Scout.com's top-ranked QB. Allen visited and camped at Ohio State last summer and was long-rumored to be a "Buckeye lock" if an offer came his way, and while he's still got the Buckeyes very high on his list, there's no guarantees of a commitment. One thing is sure, he's not the protoypical QB in Urban Meyer's system, but that didn't deter the Buckeyes from making their play.

"He (Coach Meyer) told me that they had done their homework," Allen said of the wait for the offer. "They wanted to see me develop as a quarterback and they liked what they saw from me in the last year and they decided that today was the day to make the offer. It's huge."

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"I was pretty focused on the Buckeyes a year ago," Allen, who plans to graduate in December, said. "I wanted that offer pretty bad, but I think the wait (for the offer) is actually a good thing. I have gotten a chance to see a number of great schools around the country and I am looking at them all. It helped me do my homework and I've got a lot of great opportunities around the nation, but the Buckeyes are up at the top of my list. I will make sure to visit them again now."

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[ant80]

I think they knew they could wait because of his high interest and then after ND offered and they saw his decision schedule getting accelerated they pulled the trigger on the offer... and I think they did it more than anything to land Andrews.

If they really liked Allen, they would've offered him after he camped. They didn't. Ergo, they weren't impressed enough to have him near the top of their board and didn't see him as deserving an offer. Frankly, he doesn't really fit the mold of a typical Urban Meyer QB.

If Urban can fit his offense to Chris Leak for Florida, who was a pocket passer, he can fit it to Allen's talents as well.

He may not be as mobile as Pryor or Miller, but think Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. Allen's current offense is very much like tOSU's as well.

We missed out on Watson (who firmed up his commitment to Clemson), which is why Allen's being offered right now. Good offer.

 

[STLDomer]

 

[BeauBenken]

Bring it.

 

[Rack Em]

Frankly, he doesn't really fit the mold of a typical Urban Meyer QB.

Because he's a real QB that can pass? Or because he's not a criminal?

 

[Luckylucci]

Bring it.

I love your confidence Beau!

 

[aubeirish]

Bring it.

Boom! Kelly has won many recruiting battle before. He'll do it again!

 

[IrishLax]

Unless he actually makes the ND visit in June with Andrews and it blows him away I see him at OSU. Sorry. This isn't an open battle... this is a kid who just got an offer from his favorite. It's too bad that Meyer didn't land the Clemson kid/there aren't better dual threat QBs this year.

 

[rtrn2glory]

what makes us convinced urban is his favorite? outside of him enjoying his camp experience there last year, did he grow up a fan of theirs?

 

[STLDomer]

what makes us convinced urban is his favorite? outside of him enjoying his camp experience there last year, did he grow up a fan of theirs?

They just are, can't really say much besides that. As the article said early in the process he was a stone cold OSU lock and it doesn't look like much as changed at this point

 

[IrishLax]

Right now it's all about getting him to stretch out the process and visit ND. That's step 1.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Right now it's all about getting him to stretch out the process and visit ND. That's step 1.

agree...but the only problem with that is if he comes to visit ND, he would almost certainly also visit urban and with an offer in hand if he's as psyched about urban as you guys say he is, I would predict him visiting on that visit.

just my gut feeling, but hey Quenton committed tonight so CHEERS!!!!

 

[PANDFAN]

“The way we feel about it is we are going to look at schools separately and find the match for us,” Allen said. “If it works out that we both feel the exact same way about a school then we’ll commit together. If it happens, it’ll be amazing. We’ll have four years of chemistry under our belts. We’ll find the fit that’s perfect for us.”


this is andrews talking about him and allen after allen got an osu offer yesterday

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[PANDFAN]

“That’s one of the biggest misconceptions,” Allen said. “I talked to Coach [Urban] Meyer for about 20 minutes and he said that’s just the guys they have. They went out looking for the next Braxton Miller, but sat down and said, ‘Is this what we really want?’ On the phone today, he said he wants a guy like he had in Alex Smith. He wants a guy that’s more of a passer first, more of a reader first. He wants an NFL style quarterback with a big arm to make the big throws.”

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[aubeirish]

“That’s one of the biggest misconceptions,” Allen said. “I talked to Coach [Urban] Meyer for about 20 minutes and he said that’s just the guys they have. They went out looking for the next Braxton Miller, but sat down and said, ‘Is this what we really want?’ On the phone today, he said he wants a guy like he had in Alex Smith. He wants a guy that’s more of a passer first, more of a reader first. He wants an NFL style quarterback with a big arm to make the big throws.”

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Seems like Urban would say whatever. Nothing new here.

 

[md_bennett]

"You're the next Alex Smith! Come play for me and you'll go number 1 overall!" When does every kid and their parents start to open up their eyes and see that this guy is living in the past and always looking for his next Percy or Alex, but he never seems to find them.

 

[clashmore_mike]

Color me surprised that Meyer would use that pitch. Why not say he's looking for the next Tebow?

 

[FLDomer]

Color me surprised that Meyer would use that pitch. Why not say he's looking for the next Tebow?

Probably because Tebow was just offered a deal with an indoor football league.

'QB James McNear — who has the Omaha Beef off to a 5-1 start in indoor football — on the team offering Tim Tebow a standard contract ($75 a game): “I think Tim can learn a lot from me.”'

 

[dublinirish]

ahah lolz at Urban telling kids they could be like Alex Smith. Will he be telling WR's they could be the next Louis Murphy or Frankie Hammond Jr?

 

[clashmore_mike]

Probably because Tebow was just offered a deal with an indoor football league.

'QB James McNear — who has the Omaha Beef off to a 5-1 start in indoor football — on the team offering Tim Tebow a standard contract ($75 a game): “I think Tim can learn a lot from me.”'

Ha yeah that part was tongue in cheek. Is that a real quote? If so major lulz.

 

[FLDomer]

Ha yeah that part was tongue in cheek. Is that a real quote? If so major lulz.

I believe so my manager sent it to me...he just said he pulled it from a "detroit paper, or something".

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

“That’s one of the biggest misconceptions,” Allen said. “I talked to Coach [Urban] Meyer for about 20 minutes and he said that’s just the guys they have. They went out looking for the next Braxton Miller, but sat down and said, ‘Is this what we really want?’ On the phone today, he said he wants a guy like he had in Alex Smith. He wants a guy that’s more of a passer first, more of a reader first. He wants an NFL style quarterback with a big arm to make the big throws.”

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[Emcee77]

“That’s one of the biggest misconceptions,” Allen said. “I talked to Coach [Urban] Meyer for about 20 minutes and he said that’s just the guys they have. They went out looking for the next Braxton Miller, but sat down and said, ‘Is this what we really want?’ On the phone today, he said he wants a guy like he had in Alex Smith. He wants a guy that’s more of a passer first, more of a reader first. He wants an NFL style quarterback with a big arm to make the big throws.”

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Hilarious. If Alex Smith hadn't started 6-2 and looked great for the Niners before he got hurt this season, no way Urbie would be using this pitch.

 

[Luckylucci]

Hilarious. If Alex Smith hadn't started 6-2 and looked great for the Niners before he got hurt this season, no way Urbie would be using this pitch.

This is what I was thinking. He's only had one season of any success since turning Pro and Urbie's gonna squeeze every ounce he can out of it.