'14 AL RB Bo Scarbrough (Alabama Verbal)

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Consider his situation at Alabama, with constant top recruiting, insane facilities, huge assistant payrolls, large staff, and total mental control over most of the state. Alabama is and rightfully should be the favorite in every game they play for the foreseeable future (until something changes).

Now, take that same situation and make the in-state recruiting more than 3 times better (based on NFL players produced per state), and make the school far more attractive to out-of-state recruits (far better academics but you still don't have to go to class, much nicer surroundings, etc). Make the facilities even better (if that's possible). Make the assistant coach salary pool literally a blank check. Make the non-coaching staff even bigger if he wants it.

Texas would give Saban an identical situation to what he had at Alabama, but his resources in terms of money and recruiting would be vastly improved (a terrifying thought). What recruit in the southeast wouldn't want to go play for Saban? He knows SEC country like the back of his hand, those relationships aren't vanishing, and Texas isn't cold, the girls are just as hot, and you play in just as many marquee games. The only guys he'd miss out on would be those who were really attached to a specific school, not the kind of guy who wants an "SEC atmosphere" or whatever. Between those connections, the Texas brand, and the Nick Saban brand, there's a realistic potential he could put together a class with unprecedented amounts of 5* recruits - approaching 10 in a great year wouldn't be out of there picture. The ESPN slobber would get even worse over Texas than it currently is for Bama because this move would probably make the longhorn network at least close to profitable. Basically, the potential is there for Saban to develop the most dominant teams in the history of CFB if he goes to Texas because he'd have the best of everything in the country except for Oregon's uniforms and Standford/ND/Duke/Northwestern nerd academics.

Would Texas (as a whole) give Nick the same leash as what he has at Bama? The two universities are vastly different from an outsiders perspective. UT tries to market itself as a fine institution for academics, consistently ranking high in public school rankings as well as overall national rankings (I believe they are in the 40's overall and in the low teens for public schools) and they have certain programs that rank top 10 nationally. They also are HUGE in research. Frankly, Bama and UT are in vastly different academic worlds and I wonder if Nick Saban and the academic pursuit of Texas can exist in perfect harmony. It's not about money to me, it's about power. Saban is after power and I am not sure Texas will give him the keys to kingdom like Bama has and I think that will cause issues in the long run if he ends up there.
 

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Would Texas (as a whole) give Nick the same leash as what he has at Bama? The two universities are vastly different from an outsiders perspective. UT tries to market itself as a fine institution for academics, consistently ranking high in public school rankings as well as overall national rankings (I believe they are in the 40's overall and in the low teens for public schools) and they have certain programs that rank top 10 nationally. They also are HUGE in research. Frankly, Bama and UT are in vastly different academic worlds and I wonder if Nick Saban and the academic pursuit of Texas can exist in perfect harmony. It's not about money to me, it's about power. Saban is after power and I am not sure Texas will give him the keys to kingdom like Bama has and I think that will cause issues in the long run if he ends up there.

You have a good point, but I'm guessing Texas may have some of the standard basket weaving, dance interpretation, etc., classes that Bama and a lot of other schools offer athletes..
 

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You have a good point, but I'm guessing Texas may have some of the standard basket weaving, dance interpretation, etc., classes that Bama and a lot of other schools offer athletes..

I guess I'm just assuming you're right, but I've never heard a whisper from Texas fans even considering the prospect of a recruit not qualifying academically. That speaks volumes IMO.
 

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Texas winning would be fine by me... and let's not forget that Saban would not guarantee anything to begin with...
 

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Would Texas (as a whole) give Nick the same leash as what he has at Bama? The two universities are vastly different from an outsiders perspective. UT tries to market itself as a fine institution for academics, consistently ranking high in public school rankings as well as overall national rankings (I believe they are in the 40's overall and in the low teens for public schools) and they have certain programs that rank top 10 nationally. They also are HUGE in research. Frankly, Bama and UT are in vastly different academic worlds and I wonder if Nick Saban and the academic pursuit of Texas can exist in perfect harmony. It's not about money to me, it's about power. Saban is after power and I am not sure Texas will give him the keys to kingdom like Bama has and I think that will cause issues in the long run if he ends up there.

'Bama's GSR figures under Saban are significantly above average, and much better than UT's under Brown. I doubt academics will be much of a hindrance should Saban choose to make the jump.
 

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You have a good point, but I'm guessing Texas may have some of the standard basket weaving, dance interpretation, etc., classes that Bama and a lot of other schools offer athletes..

I am sure they do, but I am not talking about the athletes per se.

What I am talking about is the overall focus of the school and what athletics does for each school. The endowment at Texas is almost 10X Bama's. While Bama has said Saban has been their best investment, they needed something like him to come along to accelerate their endowment growth. Would Bama be able to continue that growth without Saban? Maybe, maybe not. But, I have a feeling that UT would still be just fine with or without him (due to their academic status and research goals). Saban knows this and understands he holds the power at Bama while I doubt he would get the same treatment at UT.
 
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What I am talking about is the overall focus of the school and what athletics does for each school. The endowment at Texas is almost 10X Bama's. While Bama has said Saban has been their best investment, they needed something like him to come along to accelerate their endowment growth. Would Bama be able to continue that growth with Saban? Maybe, maybe not. But, I have a feeling that UT would still be just fine with or without him (due to their academic status and research goals). Saban knows this and understands he holds the power at Bama while I doubt he would get the same treatment at UT.

That's possible, but there are plenty of other likely scenarios. I could easily buy that Saban is simply ready for his next professional challenge. Enter a Texas program willing to double or triple his currently insane salary, and it seems like common sense. There's also his legacy to consider; if he brought back not one, but two blue-blood CFB powers to national preeminence, he'd become truly untouchable.
 
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I could see Smart giving him a good nudge also...
 

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That's possible, but there are plenty of other likely scenarios. I could easily buy that Saban is simply ready for his next professional challenge. Enter a Texas program willing to double or triple his currently insane salary, and it seems like common sense. There's also his legacy to consider; if he brought back not one, but two blood-blue CFB powers to national preeminence, he'd become truly untouchable.

That is true as well.

I guess there is a part of me that thinks Saban loves having everyone fellate him, from ESPN to the school president and he knows he could get ANYTHING he wants from Bama in support of the football program. UT would give him more money, but I am just skeptical UT would go to the same measures. After all, they did renege on DKR's AD powers when they would not allow him to name his successor since the UT administration at the time believed he had too much power. I dunno, maybe it is just me, but I look at UT and believe the school's success is defined about what it does outside the lines, as opposed to Bama where inside the lines matter more.
 

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That is true as well.

I guess there is a part of me that thinks Saban loves having everyone fellate him, from ESPN to the school president and he knows he could get ANYTHING he wants from Bama in support of the football program. UT would give him more money, but I am just skeptical UT would go to the same measures. After all, they did renege on DKR's AD powers when they would not allow him to name his successor since the UT administration at the time believed he had too much power. I dunno, maybe it is just me, but I look at UT and believe the school's success is defined about what it does outside the lines, as opposed to Bama where inside the lines matter more.

I would agree with that.
 

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We're eliminated. Doesn't like our running game.

Ole Mi$$ is the bigge$t threat to Bama for Bo'$ $ignature on National $igning Day.

But don't worry we have a new angle with him
 
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"In regards to Notre Dame I don't think it's the right fit for me overall," stated Scarbrough. "I don't think their running game is the best situation for me."

Adios? :/
 

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We're eliminated. Doesn't like our running game.

Ole Mi$$ is the bigge$t threat to Bama for Bo'$ $ignature on National $igning Day.

So Alford can re-direct after the Stanford game to see RYIII?
 

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"In regards to Notre Dame I don't think it's the right fit for me overall," stated Scarbrough. "I don't think their running game is the best situation for me."

Adios? :/

He wasn't ever coming here. I forget who on IE said that it felt like he was telling ND reporters what they wanted to hear, but someone definitely did last month. Come forward and receive your reps (btw, I don't use the unlimited rep application).
 

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He wasn't ever coming here. I forget who on IE said that it felt like he was telling ND reporters what they wanted to hear, but someone definitely did last month. Come forward and receive your reps (btw, I don't use the unlimited rep application).

Probably me.

Most likely.

If not, I thought it.

;) j/k I hardly post nowadays. When I do it sucks. So at least that hasn't changed.
 

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Probably me.

Most likely.

If not, I thought it.

;) j/k I hardly post nowadays. When I do it sucks. So at least that hasn't changed.

It's ok, brah.

You're Goliath.

When you cut your mullett, your posts started sucking. Just grow it back.





Seriously though, post more. Afterall, you're my boy, Blue.
 

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We're eliminated. Doesn't like our running game.

Ole Mi$$ is the bigge$t threat to Bama for Bo'$ $ignature on National $igning Day.

But don't worry we have a new angle with him

"In regards to Notre Dame I don't think it's the right fit for me overall," stated Scarbrough. "I don't think their running game is the best situation for me."

Adios? :/

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Very disappointing.

So does Kalen Ballage get his offer now? Are there other RBs on the board? I can't think of any.

Of course, we don't need to get any RBs this cycle, especially with Bryant hopefully able to redshirt.
 

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Can we know the secret now that was supposed to help us in recruiting him?
 

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*secrets harnessed from the atom.

Kuehnja: none ya.

Hog: stick to posting fat chicks.
 

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Can we know the secret now that was supposed to help us in recruiting him?

Was it a secret? I thought it was that we were recruiting his cousin Cyontai Lewis. Maybe that was unconfirmed though.
 
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