'13 PA WR Will Fuller (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[NDohio]

He had the best chance to be the number one. He also is a big WR with good hands.


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I don't disagree that he had the most potential of any of our receivers to be a true #1. I just don't think he ever lived up to his abilities.

 

[Irishman77]

So it's been announced and determined Zaire is starting next year.


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A double digit win season depends on it...

 

[irishff1014]

I can tell you he works on less drops and he be even better next year.

 

[koonja]

https://twitter.com/Will_Fuller7/status/542041708498653184

Now I buy him as a legit #1.

 

[Booslum31]

https://twitter.com/Will_Fuller7/status/542041708498653184

Now I buy him as a legit #1.

Had to laugh at the air-freshener right above his head in the instagram picture. Legit number one.

 

[tko]

gettin his thug on

 

[Irish Insanity]

https://twitter.com/Will_Fuller7/status/542041708498653184

Now I buy him as a legit #1.

Late to the party......as always.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The 2014 <a href="https://twitter.com/si_ncaafb">@si_ncaafb</a> All-American team is out and sophomore <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball">@NDFootball</a> WR <a href="https://twitter.com/Will_Fuller7">@Will_Fuller7</a> named honorable mention <a href="http://t.co/AI4B6uHG6f">pic.twitter.com/AI4B6uHG6f</a></p>— Michael Bertsch (@NDsidBertschy) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDsidBertschy/status/544907823461961728">December 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Veritate Duce Progredi]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The 2014 <a href="https://twitter.com/si_ncaafb">@si_ncaafb</a> All-American team is out and sophomore <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball">@NDFootball</a> WR <a href="https://twitter.com/Will_Fuller7">@Will_Fuller7</a> named honorable mention <a href="http://t.co/AI4B6uHG6f">pic.twitter.com/AI4B6uHG6f</a></p>— Michael Bertsch (@NDsidBertschy) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDsidBertschy/status/544907823461961728">December 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Since some have a difficult time seeing good things Kelly does, this is a great example. He's been high on Mr. Fuller since he signed saying he was a real sleeper and tracks the ball as well as any young man he had recruited (if I recall correctly).

 

[Irish Insanity]

Dude is a legit #1. Period

 

[ThePiombino]

Dude is a legit #1. Period

Right now he is, sure. But do you think for a second if we landed Greenberry or Treadwell that Fuller would even be sniffing #1? THEY are legit #1s. Hell, Daniels would likely have been #1 over Fuller. We're lucky how this kid balled out, don't get me wrong. But to say he's a legit #1? Come on, the ends don't always justify the means. He has A LOT of work to do before he's a legit #1.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Right now he is, sure. But do you think for a second if we landed Greenberry or Treadwell that Fuller would even be sniffing #1? THEY are legit #1s. Hell, Daniels would likely have been #1 over Fuller. We're lucky how this kid balled out, don't get me wrong. But to say he's a legit #1? Come on, the ends don't always justify the means. He has A LOT of work to do before he's a legit #1.

The ends is all that matters. So it should affect Tom Brady because of his draft position and where he was rated coming our of UofM. No. It helped his legacy, didn't hurt it. To lessen his value because of what 3 others may have done, but didn't, is absurd.

 

[Irish Insanity]

And in no way am I comparing Fuller to Brady. I don't even like Brady.

 

[Irish#1]

Props to the young man for the recognition.

 

[Irish YJ]

Fuller, DD, CRob (especially RZ) and CJ would make a nice group of WRs next year if they all are back (excuse me but I haven't kept up on DD's plan). Brent, Brown, and Hunter will all provide great depth.

Boykin and Sanders will push this second group IMO if they don't RS. I think Boykin may be assumed the best of the incoming, but I'd bet Sanders will likely get the first shot at PT grouped with CJ. Hope to see Holmes mix it up, but we have a lot of depth at this point.

Yes, already looking forward to 2015

 

[NDohio]

Right now he is, sure. But do you think for a second if we landed Greenberry or Treadwell that Fuller would even be sniffing #1? THEY are legit #1s. Hell, Daniels would likely have been #1 over Fuller. We're lucky how this kid balled out, don't get me wrong. But to say he's a legit #1? Come on, the ends don't always justify the means. He has A LOT of work to do before he's a legit #1.

I am not as sure about this as many others are. DD has all the talent in the world and his potential is off the charts. But, he has never really shown the consistency and drive to be the #1 WR.

Congrats to WF on a great year. His future is bright.

 

[NOLAIrish]

Right now he is, sure. But do you think for a second if we landed Greenberry or Treadwell that Fuller would even be sniffing #1? THEY are legit #1s. Hell, Daniels would likely have been #1 over Fuller. We're lucky how this kid balled out, don't get me wrong. But to say he's a legit #1? Come on, the ends don't always justify the means. He has A LOT of work to do before he's a legit #1.

Part of the disconnect here is the gap between "#1" and "among the best #1s." Treadwell is a top-tier #1, and I think our idea of Greenberry, at least, is that he is as well. Assuming the injury doesn't change Treadwell, I think we expect both to not just be drafted (a feat 30 WRs achieve each year) but be drafted at the top of the draft. That would put them among the top 10 to 15 WRs in the country, or approximately the top 10% of all #1s.

I don't think anyone would argue that Fuller's got a ton of work to do before he's in that class. Instead it's that that standard doesn't capture the full universe of #1s. Fuller is 19th in receiving yards, tied for 2nd in TDs, and tied for 27th in receptions. And he's done that as a sophomore. He's not looked like a big, dominant #1 doing that; he's looked like a very good, fast #1 with shaky hands, occasional concentration lapses, fantastic speed, and elite vision. He reminds me a bit of Kenny Stills. I'd call that a legit #1, just not an elite #1.

 

[Emcee77]

'13 PA WR Will Fuller (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

Part of the disconnect here is the gap between "#1" and "among the best #1s." Treadwell is a top-tier #1, and I think our idea of Greenberry, at least, is that he is as well. Assuming the injury doesn't change Treadwell, I think we expect both to not just be drafted (a feat 30 WRs achieve each year) but be drafted at the top of the draft. That would put them among the top 10 to 15 WRs in the country, or approximately the top 10% of all #1s.



I don't think anyone would argue that Fuller's got a ton of work to do before he's in that class. Instead it's that that standard doesn't capture the full universe of #1s. Fuller is 19th in receiving yards, tied for 2nd in TDs, and tied for 27th in receptions. And he's done that as a sophomore. He's not looked like a big, dominant #1 doing that; he's looked like a very good, fast #1 with shaky hands, occasional concentration lapses, fantastic speed, and elite vision. He reminds me a bit of Kenny Stills. I'd call that a legit #1, just not an elite #1.

Exactly, great post. A legit #1 is just a guy who can beat most DBs. Fuller is definitely that. He is just not well-rounded and consistent enough to be an elite #1 (yet).

 

[BossTown]

Until he learns to extend his arms and use his hands to catch the ball I refuse to consider him even a Legit #1 receiver. Drove me crazy all season long watching him cradle catch the damn ball with CB's on his back. That being said he is our #1 receiver.

 

[Wild Bill]

I hope we're cursed with 11 guys playing at his level on offense next year.

 

[GoldenDomer]

I hope we're cursed with 11 guys playing at his level on offense next year.

Slow down. 11 guys on offense getting off the bus would be progress.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Right now he is, sure. But do you think for a second if we landed Greenberry or Treadwell that Fuller would even be sniffing #1? THEY are legit #1s. Hell, Daniels would likely have been #1 over Fuller. We're lucky how this kid balled out, don't get me wrong. But to say he's a legit #1? Come on, the ends don't always justify the means. He has A LOT of work to do before he's a legit #1.

He's our #1 so there is no debate. Does he compare to the best in the nation, the AP poll suggests he does. Even with his drops, he garnered All-American recognition as a true sophomore! I don't know the last time we had that? I don't think Floyd did it, maybe Tate? (or did it take him a couple years to get going?)

If we landed Greenberry or Treadwell, we'd have two #1s stretching the field. Do you realize how many TDs Fuller could've had if Golson saw him? I remember just the misses the cameras pointed out and there were ~5

Fuller is a burner who has really good hands but still lacks AA consistency. I think he'll get there, especially with his surrounding cast helping to take pressure off of him.

 

[TheChosen1]

In the thread who are you most excited to watch this year before DD was suspended I said fuller would be the leading wr this year. I was laughed at. How you like me now?

 

[koonja]

In the thread who are you most excited to watch this year before DD was suspended I said fuller would be the leading wr this year. I was laughed at. How you like me now?

+1. Chris Brown was way over hyped.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

In the thread who are you most excited to watch this year before DD was suspended I said fuller would be the leading wr this year. I was laughed at. How you like me now?

Props on your talent eval. I really thought Chris Brown was going to do something after all the pre-season hype. Hopefully he has a chance to do more next year.

 

[pumpdog20]

Until he learns to extend his arms and use his hands to catch the ball I refuse to consider him even a Legit #1 receiver. Drove me crazy all season long watching him cradle catch the damn ball with CB's on his back. That being said he is our #1 receiver.

Dude's an AA honorable mention. What's that make him, top 10-15 nationally? How does that not qualify as being a "Legit #1 receiver"?

 

[BossTown]

Dude's an AA honorable mention. What's that make him, top 10-15 nationally? How does that not qualify as being a "Legit #1 receiver"?

I am not complaining about the production we received from his play. I am saying that he is very replaceable as our #1 receiver. How many NFL wide receivers catch the ball with their chest?

 

[Rocket89]

I am not complaining about the production we received from his play. I am saying that he is very replaceable as our #1 receiver. How many NFL wide receivers catch the ball with their chest?

No.

 

[BossTown]

You guys can't tell me, out of all the members here who evaluate talent that you don't notice or see how inadequate catching the ball with your chest is. I blame coaching for this just as I blame them for Bryant constantly not switching the ball to his sideline arm.

 

[IrishLion]

I wouldn't characterize 1,000+ yards and 14 TD's as "very replaceable."

However, I do see where you're coming from in terms of his technique/mechanics. He could be an unstoppable force if he was just a bit more naturally gifted in terms of "ball skills."

But "very replaceable"? I disagree.