'13 OH QB Malik Zaire (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

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Hope he goes to OSU and wins a Natty. Their whole team will be back next year, except for JT.
 

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Hope he goes to OSU and wins a Natty. Their whole team will be back next year, except for JT.

JT will be a 5th year senior next season and it wouldn't matter, Urban burned that bridge when he didn't offer (took JT instead)
 

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I do feel bad for him. He didn't handle his demotion well this year and I'm disappointed in him for that but he worked so hard last year and was ready to be a leader until the injury. Then Kelly toyed with him this year. Zaire, if managed properly this year, could have been effective in certain situations.

Best of luck. It's amazing how every QB under Kelly has regressed other than Tommy Rees who started on a scale of 1-10 as a 3 and ended as a 4.

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Kelly tried a 2-QB system this year and it didn't work out. Is it Kelly's fault that Zaire got hurt last year? Zaire unfortunately got set back by his injury, he wasn't the same this year.

I don't understand why everything is Kelly's fault on this message board....
 

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Kelly tried a 2-QB system this year and it didn't work out. Is it Kelly's fault that Zaire got hurt last year? Zaire unfortunately got set back by his injury, he wasn't the same this year.

I don't understand why everything is Kelly's fault on this message board....

And we can't understand why nothing is his fault.
 

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JT will be a 5th year senior next season and it wouldn't matter, Urban burned that bridge when he didn't offer (took JT instead)

I just assume JT goes pro, and no way Malik is in any position to hold grudges. If OSU comes calling, Malik should run through glass barefoot for that opportunity....and I'm sure he would.
 

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Kelly tried a 2-QB system this year and it didn't work out. Is it Kelly's fault that Zaire got hurt last year? Zaire unfortunately got set back by his injury, he wasn't the same this year.

I don't understand why everything is Kelly's fault on this message board....

We didn't do a 2-QB system. We put Zaire in for 3 series against Texas and he became backup. Zaire did get set back by his injury, but offensively I think it also put us in a bad position. We changed the offense to be more pass friendly under Kizer, and it bit us in the butt a number of times this season (NC St. being a perfect example). We shouldn't have been so pass heavy with inexperienced WRs. They're in a better position for next year, but at the same time we had to break in a lot of guys that weren't all ready. I think if we would have worked on our running game more we would have picked up a lot more wins this year, and Zaire wouldn't have been as ineffective as he was at times. I genuinely felt bad for him, more than once he had drives killed by OL false starts, or snaps over his head. Hard to get momentum when those things are out of your hands.
 

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Kelly tried a 2-QB system this year and it didn't work out. Is it Kelly's fault that Zaire got hurt last year? Zaire unfortunately got set back by his injury, he wasn't the same this year.

I don't understand why everything is Kelly's fault on this message board....

HA! And I told people from the start it doesn't work.


But Kelly gets the blame because we all watched, each week, as his starter regressed in front of our eyes and he couldn't figure out the issue and fix it. That falls on coaching.
 

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Hopefully he doesn't spend next year pouting on someone else's sideline. Best of luck, Malik.
 

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Says Michigan state is a finalist....watch him go there and next year kick the crap out of us


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not super familiar with QB situations at Wisconsin or Florida but those seem like the kind of systems/programs where he could do good things.
Obvs would prefer not Michigan State.
 

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not super familiar with QB situations at Wisconsin or Florida but those seem like the kind of systems/programs where he could do good things.
Obvs would prefer not Michigan State.

Michigan State and Pitt make the most sense - both will lose their starting qb. Pitt's QB was a grad transfer, I think, and put up some good stats so that may be a good landing spot for Malik.

Wiscy and Florida both have young quarterbacks with experience coming back. I don't believe they've been overly impressive, though.
 

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This was decided week 1, before the implosion.

No shit, but hey, stopping the stupidity fest wouldn't be any fun.

This has absolutely nothing to do with being 4-8. He has one year, and has to be guaranteed the starting spot. With Wimbush on the team, I certainly wouldn't do that.
 

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Michigan State and Pitt make the most sense - both will lose their starting qb. Pitt's QB was a grad transfer, I think, and put up some good stats so that may be a good landing spot for Malik.

Wiscy and Florida both have young quarterbacks with experience coming back. I don't believe they've been overly impressive, though.

Would be super ironic if Zaire transfers to one of those schools and Dantonio or Narduzzi ends up coaching ND in 2017...
 

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Good for him, I hope he does well wherever he goes, we all saw this coming so no big surprise.
 

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I like these choices but I like to see him at Florida or Wisconsin. He deserves to go to a contender for a conference championship at the very least.
 

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Neither has Zaire. I think we are overvaluing him because of familiarity.

Agreed. I only mention their youth because Zaire has likely had his share of competing with younger QBs for a starting spot, whether proven or not. I suspect his landing spot will be one where the starting QB has played his last down.
 

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Good luck to MZ. Was so proud of what he did to LSU and Texas. Hope he chooses a place where he can just go play...
 

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Since we play Sparty next year, would we not block that request?

The Graduate Transfer Exception vs. the Graduate Transfer Waiver

The Graduate Transfer Exception vs. the Graduate Transfer Waiver

Written by John Infante
With many athletes both graduating and transferring as the school year winds down, there are many questions about which football and basketball players will be eligible immediately as graduate students. Because this area has changed so much in the last few years there is confusion about graduate transfers.

The current graduate transfer system started with Proposal 2005-54, which allowed any student enrolled in a graduate program not offered at their original school to be eligible immediately. After a summer of virtual free agency for graduating seniors, the membership overrode and defeated 2005-54. But then-NCAA President Myles Brand liked the rule so much that it survived as a waiver.

So many waiver requests were filed and were being rubber-stamped that in 2010, the NCAA membership passed Proposal 2010-52. This created a graduate transfer exception. The difference between an exception and a waiver is that schools must apply for a waiver with the NCAA or a conference, while they can apply exceptions on campus without first getting approval. Now we have both an exception and a waiver, which have slightly different requirements and uses.

Graduate Transfer Exception

The graduate transfer exception builds off of the one-time transfer exception, the rule most often used by athletes in non-revenue sports to be eligible immediately after transferring. The one-time transfer exception requires the following:

The athlete has never previously transferred;
At the time of the transfer, the athlete would have been academically eligible had he or she remained; and
The athlete’s previous institution says it does not object to allowing the athlete to use the one-time transfer exception.
The sports of football, basketball, men’s ice hockey and baseball cannot normally use the one-time transfer exception. But they can if they fulfill the additional requirements as graduate students, in addition to everything above:

The athlete is enrolled in a specific graduate program;
The previous school did not renew the athlete’s athletic scholarship.
Most of this is a formality. The athlete still needs permission from his previous school to transfer and play immediately. If that permission is granted, the school will also often cancel or non-renew the athlete’s grant-in-aid agreement to fulfill the graduate exception.

Graduate Transfer Waiver

Despite the creation of the graduate transfer exception, the waiver lives on. It is now primarily used by athletes who have already transferred once, and thus are not eligible for the one-time transfer exception. The waivers are reviewed by the NCAA staff. If they are denied by the staff, they are appealed to the Division I Subcommittee on Legislative Relief.

These are the requirements for a graduate transfer waiver:

The athlete’s former school does not object to the waiver;
The athlete is enrolled in a graduate program not offered at the previous institution.
The school submits documentation that these requirements are met, along with a statement from the student-athlete. Generally any waiver that meets the requirements is granted. There is not reason to show “compelling mitigation” or anything quite so fuzzy.

Comparing the Two

So if a football, basketball, baseball, or men’s hockey player has never transferred previously from one four-year school to another, her or she will likely use the graduate transfer exception. If he or she has previously transferred, the waiver will be necessary. And only under the waiver is the athlete required to enroll in a graduate program their previous school did not offer.
 
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