'13 DC ATH Devin Butler (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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The more I read the letter, the uglier I feel for Devin. He's making the smart decision, but it's probably not the just one. I would make the same decision in his shoes, but it sucks that Knepper is going to walk away from this with a slap on the wrist again after multiple issues on his record. He should be writing a letter of apology to Devin, not the other way around.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No change in status of Devin Butler per Brian Kelly. Remains suspended indefinitely.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/790949948091146240">October 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Sorry pasted the wrong tweet.
 
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I know someone who knows Butler pretty well and saw him throughout his years here at ND. Second hand info so TIFWIW.

Butler came to ND as a REALLY good kid, head on straight, humble, etc. Stayed that way until he met his girlfriend, and slowly he changed. By the end of his time at ND he just wasn’t the same kid. In many cases, change is a good thing and should be expected especially during the college years. But in Butler’s case, she was a bad influence and the change wasn’t good. I still think, from what I’ve heard, the cop was a POS, but Butler was no angel, unfortunately.

Hopefully this move will get him away from that girl and get his head back on straight.
 

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I know someone who knows Butler pretty well and saw him throughout his years here at ND. Second hand info so TIFWIW.

Butler came to ND as a REALLY good kid, head on straight, humble, etc. Stayed that way until he met his girlfriend, and slowly he changed. By the end of his time at ND he just wasn’t the same kid. In many cases, change is a good thing and should be expected especially during the college years. But in Butler’s case, she was a bad influence and the change wasn’t good. I still think, from what I’ve heard, the cop was a POS, but Butler was no angel, unfortunately.

Hopefully this move will get him away from that girl and get his head back on straight.

Women weaken legs. Is it a coincidence that Butler suffered a lower body injury after getting the gf? I think not.
 

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I know someone who knows Butler pretty well and saw him throughout his years here at ND. Second hand info so TIFWIW.

Butler came to ND as a REALLY good kid, head on straight, humble, etc. Stayed that way until he met his girlfriend, and slowly he changed. By the end of his time at ND he just wasn’t the same kid. In many cases, change is a good thing and should be expected especially during the college years. But in Butler’s case, she was a bad influence and the change wasn’t good. I still think, from what I’ve heard, the cop was a POS, but Butler was no angel, unfortunately.

Hopefully this move will get him away from that girl and get his head back on straight.

Is this needed? Not sure we need to engage in this type of discussion on here about a current student, particularly without first hand knowledge.
 

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Is this needed? Not sure we need to engage in this type of discussion on here about a current student, particularly without first hand knowledge.

Is he a student still? I thought he was already gone, and that usually means it's fair game. But that's fine. Had some really good S&C stuff but it involves a current player so I'll shelve it until he graduates.
 

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Is this needed? Not sure we need to engage in this type of discussion on here about a current student, particularly without first hand knowledge.

1. It's a message board.

2. You come around once in a great while. And NDinLA brings good info to the board.

3. Butler is an Adult so if he doesn't want people on a ND themed message board don't act like a fool.
 

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Is this needed? Not sure we need to engage in this type of discussion on here about a current student, particularly without first hand knowledge.

What's the difference when you were posting stuff regarding players while you were attending? Gtfo with your elitist attitude like you're some saint... And some was not first hand
 
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What's the difference when you were posting stuff regarding players while you were attending? Gtfo with your elitist attitude like you're some saint... And some was not first hand

I agree. Beat it Jimmy. I hate when people come on here, especially when they aren't solid contributors, and tell people what they can and can't post.
 

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I agree. Beat it Jimmy. I hate when people come on here, especially when they aren't solid contributors, and tell people what they can and can't post.

I'll leave. My apologies for adding my elitist opinion that this forum shouldn't be a place for generic comments about the character of a 21 year old student. I didn't know there was a post requirement to make such a comment. It won't happen again.
 

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I'll leave. My apologies for adding my elitist opinion that this forum shouldn't be a place for generic comments about the character of a 21 year old student. I didn't know there was a post requirement to make such a comment. It won't happen again.

Jimmy, not trying to be a dick, however, did not you, yourself post info on Greg Bryant during his days on campus???? And if my memory serves me correctly, I also thought you owed a naked lap for being wrong about Bryant, and you shouldnt post until you do your lap.
 

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Jimmy, not trying to be a dick, however, did not you, yourself post info on Greg Bryant during his days on campus???? And if my memory serves me correctly, I also thought you owed a naked lap for being wrong about Bryant, and you shouldnt post until you do your lap.

I am certainly a chicken for my not doing the naked lap :)

And while I did make many posts in my heyday, I'd like to think I never made posts about someones character. Gregs discussion (RIP) was merely about things I observed that made me convinced he wouldn't return that year.

And if I did make such comments, which isn't out of the question, I think this place would be better without that discussion, which is merely the point I was trying to make.
 

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I know someone who knows Butler pretty well and saw him throughout his years here at ND. Second hand info so TIFWIW.

Butler came to ND as a REALLY good kid, head on straight, humble, etc. Stayed that way until he met his girlfriend, and slowly he changed. By the end of his time at ND he just wasn’t the same kid. In many cases, change is a good thing and should be expected especially during the college years. But in Butler’s case, she was a bad influence and the change wasn’t good. I still think, from what I’ve heard, the cop was a POS, but Butler was no angel, unfortunately.

Hopefully this move will get him away from that girl and get his head back on straight.

From what I understand, they knew each other from back in DC but started dating after he came here. I do agree that he has changed since they started dating. She moved here to "keep an eye on him" which is never a good thing. Wonder if she will follow him to wherever he transfers.
 

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Dumpy lil troll.

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I am certainly a chicken for my not doing the naked lap :)

And while I did make many posts in my heyday, I'd like to think I never made posts about someones character. Gregs discussion (RIP) was merely about things I observed that made me convinced he wouldn't return that year.

And if I did make such comments, which isn't out of the question, I think this place would be better without that discussion, which is merely the point I was trying to make.

Just messin with ya man!!! Glad to see you're still doing good, man!!!
 

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Is this needed? Not sure we need to engage in this type of discussion on here about a current student, particularly without first hand knowledge.

1. It's a message board.

2. You come around once in a great while. And NDinLA brings good info to the board.

3. Butler is an Adult so if he doesn't want people on a ND themed message board don't act like a fool.

What's the difference when you were posting stuff regarding players while you were attending? Gtfo with your elitist attitude like you're some saint... And some was not first hand

Wait, I thought Jimmy was referring to the girlfriend who we honestly know less about than Butler in which case I say his point is. Fair, Jimmy is a good enough guy and is not trying to be elitist.

He is a chicken for not doing his naked lap though.
 
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