'13 DC ATH Devin Butler (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

It's poor form to post a player is a thug on a public-facing message board.

 

[TheChosen1]

BREAKING: Devin Buter, Notre Dame cornerback, formally charged with Resisting Law Enforcement (injury) and Battery to a Police Officer.

According to court documents, SBPD officers saw a woman kick another woman in the head outside of the Linebacker, went to break it up...

...Butler got mad, approached the woman that did the kicking, and allegedly shoved her by her head and body, pushing her 3-4 feet.

SBPD tried to detain Butler, he allegedly resisted and pushed one officer off balance and tackled him off of a curb outside of the bar.

Court documents allege that during the scuffle Butler physically ripped one officer's belt off, forcing the officer to taser him @WNDU

Tricia Harte. WNDU.

 

[SoDakDomer]

So did the woman who kicked another woman in the head get arrested?

 

[IrishInFl]

BREAKING: Devin Buter, Notre Dame cornerback, formally charged with Resisting Law Enforcement (injury) and Battery to a Police Officer.

According to court documents, SBPD officers saw a woman kick another woman in the head outside of the Linebacker, went to break it up...

...Butler got mad, approached the woman that did the kicking, and allegedly shoved her by her head and body, pushing her 3-4 feet.

SBPD tried to detain Butler, he allegedly resisted and pushed one officer off balance and tackled him off of a curb outside of the bar.

Court documents allege that during the scuffle Butler physically ripped one officer's belt off, forcing the officer to taser him @WNDU

Tricia Harte. WNDU.

He gone?

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Kind of sounding more and more like a Will Mahone incident.


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[kmoose]

He gone?

I doubt it. Assuming that he has made adequate progress, this is his Senior year, and he will be on pace to graduate in May. I doubt that they will kick him out for pushing a woman and then fighting with a cop, depending on the nature of the struggle with the cop. I'm not saying that they won't suspend him for a semester, thereby ending his season, but I think there will probably be a path back for him, if he wants to do what it takes to come back and graduate.

 

[TheChosen1]

So did the woman who kicked another woman in the head get arrested?

I'm sure we will see the video soon enough.

 

[Luckylucci]

Damn Butler, I don't think you'll be able to apologize out of this one.

 

[BobbyMac]

I doubt it. Assuming that he has made adequate progress, this is his Senior year, and he will be on pace to graduate in May. I doubt that they will kick him out for pushing a woman and then fighting with a cop, depending on the nature of the struggle with the cop. I'm not saying that they won't suspend him for a semester, thereby ending his season, but I think there will probably be a path back for him, if he wants to do what it takes to come back and graduate.

Hope your thinking on point.

IF this is how it went down, he should be sent home for the semester and given a path back for spring semester. If he is lucky, he'll be able to graduate on time or with the help of some summer school and then could grad transfer elsewhere to play his last year. If that's not in the cards, he'll have a chance to acquire his ND diploma in December '17.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Actually here is the arrest report :

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...-11e6-ade2-d7b4d896b6f3/57b8ac56a727a.pdf.pdf

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...-11e6-ade2-d7b4d896b6f3/57b8ac56a727a.pdf.pdf

It may be standard but the State Attorney asked for more time for his initial hearing, to see if charges should be filed, so that period has been extended from Sunday to Wednesday.

 

[irishff1014]

I doubt it. Assuming that he has made adequate progress, this is his Senior year, and he will be on pace to graduate in May. I doubt that they will kick him out for pushing a woman and then fighting with a cop, depending on the nature of the struggle with the cop. I'm not saying that they won't suspend him for a semester, thereby ending his season, but I think there will probably be a path back for him, if he wants to do what it takes to come back and graduate.

I disagree. He was given an opportunity to play for a great football name and have one of the best educations a football player can have for FREE and this is how he repays the coach that he plays for and the entire university. That's unacceptable and his punishment should be harsh.

And if this was any other school everyone would be bitching about him getting kicked off the team.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I disagree. He was given an opportunity to play for a great football name and have one of the best educations a football player can have for FREE and this is how he repays the coach that he plays for and the entire university. That's unacceptable and his punishment should be harsh.

And if this was any other school everyone would be bitching about him getting kicked off the team.

Unless of course he was defending a woman's safety or honor.

 

[Irishnuke]

He gone?

I doubt it. Assuming that he has made adequate progress, this is his Senior year, and he will be on pace to graduate in May. I doubt that they will kick him out for pushing a woman and then fighting with a cop, depending on the nature of the struggle with the cop. I'm not saying that they won't suspend him for a semester, thereby ending his season, but I think there will probably be a path back for him, if he wants to do what it takes to come back and graduate.

I thin he's absolutely gone. He assaulted a woman and a cop. Why would you still want this POS on the team?

 

[IrishLax]

I thin he's absolutely gone. He assaulted a woman and a cop. Why would you still want this POS on the team?

I'm not sure how clear it is that he assaulted a woman, given the first hand accounts that he was breaking up a fight and the fact that no charges were filed to that effect. I do think it's pretty clear he assaulted a cop, unlike Tommy Rees where the cop basically fabricated the assault on account of being pissed he had to chase him.

 

[Circa]

I thin he's absolutely gone. He assaulted a woman and a cop. Why would you still want this POS on the team?

Sounded more like he was pushing a woman(girlfriend) away from the altercation she was having with another woman.
I'm not sure If more details have arisen but In the heat of anything emotional like that and being chock full of testosterone from the college football regimen... I will say; No excuse for either charge, If what Is being charged Is an actuality of the incident.
Innocent till proven otherwise.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

None of us were there. Right?

This is where everyone needs to take a breath.

It is a little early to call someone a piece of shit.

Because that is based on what was read from a sports journal.

If anyone would have read the official court version, they surely would have withheld judgement, because the prosecuting attorney, filed paperwork for an extension, because he wasn't ready to press any of the charges.

And after all, he has the affidavits in front of him.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

By late yesterday, things smelled fishy.

Here is an eye witness account posted on NDNation :

From someone who was there - Butler's girlfriend (non ND student) got into a physical altercation with female ND student who has been friends with Butler since Freshman year. Butler GF thought ND student being too familiar with Butler while leaving the Backer (she called him Poodle - a nickname they have had for him due to his previous hairstyle). Butlers GF threw ND student to ground, kicked her in the face and head. Giving her a concussion and facial bruising.

Police arrived with Butlers GF over female student who was on ground, police see Butler trying to break it up, Police go after Butler who is trying to help and they all go to the ground - Butler is arrested. Butlers GF and the girl with the concussion were not questioned. Friends of student with concussion try to give report to police, they are not interested. They then go down to SB Police department to give report and are told to come back Monday when detective is on duty.

Conclusion from those who were there - Butlers GF should have been arrested for vicious attack on ND student, Butler arrested for trying to break it up - did nothing wrong/wrong place wrong time, police only interested in arresting Butler, never tried to understand what happened, ND student who has concussion is surprised no one at SBPD is interested in her story since she's the victim/ one with the concussion

First Hand Account

Might not want to rush to judgement to soon, even about this account.

 

[kmoose]

I thin he's absolutely gone. He assaulted a woman and a cop. Why would you still want this POS on the team?

I think that's a little harsh. He assaulted a woman is one way to look at it. He defended a woman who got cheap shotted is another. According to the authorities, Butler pushed the girl "3-4 feet". The officers intervened and told Butler to get back. He was not complying, so THEY physically accosted HIM. He then fought back. I'm not saying that he shouldn't be punished. But I am saying that I think the University will probably give him a path to come back and graduate. Not to play football anymore, but to graduate.

At the bottom of this link is the Probable Cause document that the authorities filed with the court, relating to Butler's arrest.

Report: 5 Notre Dame football players arrested in Fulton County | WSBT

 

[dad4aa]

By late yesterday, things smelled fishy.

Here is an eye witness account posted on NDNation :




First Hand Account

Might not want to rush to judgement to soon, even about this account.

Coincides with what I posted in the five players arrested thread yesterday. Girlfriend is the person who should be arrested. To take it a step further, was told Devin shoved the cop after he was shoved. That was when he was tased and tackled by the other cops. Could it be possible he did not know who he was shoving and just turned and shoved back before realizing it was a cop? He just broke up a fight and pulled his girlfriend off of the other woman and shoved her away and then he was shoved. Also interesting none of the cops are interested in her story...

 

[koonja]

By late yesterday, things smelled fishy.

Here is an eye witness account posted on NDNation :




First Hand Account

Might not want to rush to judgement to soon, even about this account.

Sounds like Bs be trippin and Butler got screwed for it for some reason. Not going to speculate as to why they went after him but if that accounting true, doesn't seem he should have been their target.

 

[NDRock]

I disagree. He was given an opportunity to play for a great football name and have one of the best educations a football player can have for FREE and this is how he repays the coach that he plays for and the entire university. That's unacceptable and his punishment should be harsh.

And if this was any other school everyone would be bitching about him getting kicked off the team.

Just curious, would someone at your fire department get fired for being arrested under similar circumstances?

 

[TheChosen1]

Reminder. Butler has been charged with nothing.

He will find out Wednesday what he is facing.

 

[CraigKrenzel]

One of the officers involved in the arrest has an interesting history with the SBPD:

Following Tom Stevens' arrest, accusations of police brutality emerge - Elkhart Truth

 

[Bogtrotter07]

One of the officers involved in the arrest has an interesting history with the SBPD:

Following Tom Stevens' arrest, accusations of police brutality emerge - Elkhart Truth

Just to answer the question many may be thinking, mother and son are caucasian.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Reminder. Butler has been charged with nothing.

He will find out Wednesday what he is facing.

Pretty sure hes been charged just not indicted. Detectives follow up and do interviews with all parties involved including witnesses and review all evidence...ie cameras. The prosecutor, in many situations, will look at the facts and drop charges, add charges, or amend charges. A lot of time patrolmen royally screw up charging. Wait until all the facts come out. I assure you that come monday, the detective assigned will interview everyone and gather all evidence. Patrolmen are not going to do that so its not odd or shady that none of the witnesses were interviewed.

 

[BobbyMac]

One of the officers involved in the arrest has an interesting history with the SBPD:

Following Tom Stevens' arrest, accusations of police brutality emerge - Elkhart Truth

This is the guy who beat up the local golf pro while arresting him for failure to stop?

The plot thickens. Nothing is ever what it seems in the beginning.

 

[TheChosen1]

Pretty sure hes been charged just not indicted. Detectives follow up and do interviews with all parties involved including witnesses and review all evidence...ie cameras. The prosecutor, in many situations, will look at the facts and drop charges, add charges, or amend charges. A lot of time patrolmen royally screw up charging. Wait until all the facts come out. I assure you that come monday, the detective assigned will interview everyone and gather all evidence. Patrolmen are not going to do that so its not odd or shady that none of the witnesses were interviewed.

Police report states.

The state advises the court that more time is required to evaluate the case, gather further information, and determine whether a charge should be filed.

 

[arrowryan]

Suspended indefinitely.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Devin Butler has been placed on “indefinite suspension. The other members involved are subject to discipline internal to the football team.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/767439408131772417">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Here it is with Butler :

BK's team punishment is an indefinite suspension. He still has University discipline, and the justice system to deal with.

Devin hasn't been charged with a crime, and won't be until Wednesday morning, per paperwork filed by the prosecutor.

Yes, this very cop nearly beat a (white) golfer and his 76 year old mother to death. (The golfer was in a medically induced coma for a period of time.)

With the point above and the fact that the police never took adequate statements at the scene from others involved, it is highly unlikely (fair to say) that Devin will be charged.

But that doesn't mean that Devin skates on University discipline, or even Kelly's team discipline.

With an indefinite suspension, Kelly doesn't have to deal with Butler until all the other aspects of the case are handled.

 

[BobbyMac]

Here it is with Butler :

BK's team punishment is an indefinite suspension. He still has University discipline, and the justice system to deal with.

Devin hasn't been charged with a crime, and won't be until Wednesday morning, per paperwork filed by the prosecutor.

Yes, this very cop nearly beat a (white) golfer and his 76 year old mother to death. (The golfer was in a medically induced coma for a period of time.)

With the point above and the fact that the police never took adequate statements at the scene from others involved, it is highly unlikely (fair to say) that Devin will be charged.

But that doesn't mean that Devin skates on University discipline, or even Kelly's team discipline.

With an indefinite suspension, Kelly doesn't have to deal with Butler until all the other aspects of the case are handled.

I hope you are right on all counts. Really hoping this was one of those... "I touched the cop on his arm and got charged with felony assault". One of the officers you mentioned has been involved in more than just one other incidents that were inappropriate. I'm hoping there will be multiple, credible witnesses that tell a different account than the officers... and with any luck, some video. I mean, where's WooooorldSTARRR Nation when you need them?

But make no mistake, if Devin in anyway provoked this or even fought back in an offensive manner... he should be done with football and then it's up to ND's process to figure out what's appropriate for his educational future.