'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

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Zaire was up front and classy with his exit. He didn't lead the coaching staff on like Golson did, planning a transfer and not planning to tell them. The coaches didn't find out about Golson's transfer until the players let the cat out of the bag.

Fair point, I was mostly just alluding to the "drama" between the team and the perceived locker room split during the 2016 season debacle. I would agree that Golson's transfer was pretty screwy, but he was invited back too.

All in all, it's neat that the staff has no hard feelings towards any of these guys who pursue a better situation through a graduate year (or otherwise), and welcome them back to South Bend.
 

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Manoman....unless BK knows A LOT of something we dont know, I dont see how this is a good call. No way this guy has the experience to make the tough calls. Unless of course, he is playing as a BK yes man
 
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I'm kind of excited. It's risky but it's not like we're competing for a NC anyway, might as well see if he's got it.
 

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I think Rees is going to be a good OC so I'm ok with that decision. As far as the timing of it, ss long as they are able to close the offensive staff as it currently stands, then I like the decision. The recruits are the most important at this time.
 

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Manoman....unless BK knows A LOT of something we dont know, I dont see how this is a good call. No way this guy has the experience to make the tough calls. Unless of course, he is playing as a BK yes man

Sampson, Prister, and Driskell all think it is a bad idea because Rees is not ready. Not even close, by the sound of it. Northwestern didn't even bring him back for a second interview, according to Driskell. He probably will be a good one someday, but he is just way short on experience at this point.
 

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Sampson, Prister, and Driskell all think it is a bad idea because Rees is not ready. Not even close, by the sound of it. Northwestern didn't even bring him back for a second interview, according to Driskell. He probably will be a good one someday, but he is just way short on experience at this point.

I trust BK far more than Driskell, Sampson and Prister. Just because he didn't get a second interview with NU doesn't mean he can't do the job. Kelly works with him every day. He's a known quantity to Kelly. Remember, he's the son of a coach, so he's been knee deep in the FB salad for a long time.

People questioned Brad Stevens when he was hired by Butler. No experience and wasn't even working in BB at the time. That turned out pretty well.
 

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I think Rees is going to be a good OC so I'm ok with that decision. As far as the timing of it, ss long as they are able to close the offensive staff as it currently stands, then I like the decision. The recruits are the most important at this time.

Although Rees lacks experience as an offensive coordinator, we must remember what he was doing as the quarterback at ND. He frequently adjusted the play at the line of scrimmage based upon the defense he saw on the other side. And as the son of a coach, he has been thinking like a football coach since a young age. Mentally, he is way ahead of schedule in understanding what Kelly likes to do on offense.

My only concern is what changes occur in the running game. Kelly's offenses always featured an over-reliance on the pass, resulting in an often neglected running game. If Rees is hired as OC or Co-OC, will his lack of experience as an offensive coordinator mean a return to Kelly's pass happy offense?

I know this is all speculation at this point, but if Long leaves will Kelly reassume play-calling duties, especially if he hires an inexperienced offensive coordinator to replace Long.
 

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I trust BK far more than Driskell, Sampson and Prister. Just because he didn't get a second interview with NU doesn't mean he can't do the job. Kelly works with him every day. He's a known quantity to Kelly. Remember, he's the son of a coach, so he's been knee deep in the FB salad for a long time.

People questioned Brad Stevens when he was hired by Butler. No experience and wasn't even working in BB at the time. That turned out pretty well.

There are a lot of areas where trusting Kelly's judgment makes sense. Hiring from within his coaching tree is not one of them. Kelly hiring coaches he has worked with before is one of his biggest flaws. His track record on hires suggests he needs to go outside of his comfort zone and do a comprehensive search and interview process.
 

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There are a lot of areas where trusting Kelly's judgment makes sense. Hiring from within his coaching tree is not one of them. Kelly hiring coaches he has worked with before is one of his biggest flaws. His track record on hires suggests he needs to go outside of his comfort zone and do a comprehensive search and interview process.

So what are Sampson, Prister, and Driskell's track record with hiring coaches? That's what Irish#1 was alluding too. At the end of the day, who cares what they think. Regardless of what you think of Kelly none of those guys have ever ran a successful P5 program.
 

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No, no, he's Reesus.

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Never forget the scriptures:

Book of Irish, Chapter 125


53 Reesus said, “And when you cheer your team, do not be like the Wolverines, for they love to jingle their car keys, throw beer on opposing fans, and sleep with large women. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in STDs. But when you cheer, go into the House that Rockne built, cheer loudly for those that represent the university, and perform many pushups after each touchdown. Then your coach, who sees the replay on NBC, will reward you. And when your band plays, do not allow them to play their Fight Song after every play like Trojans, for they are talentless and bore me to tears. Do not be like them, as Southern Cal is a dumpster fire and their coach is silly.

“This, then, is how you should cheer:"

54 “‘Our coach who art on the sidelines,
hallowed be your assistant, Diaco,
your practice come,
your plays be done,
in South Bend as they are on the road.
Give us this win, with our daily beer.
And forgive us our penalties,
as we take the yards from those that cause penalties against us.
And lead us not into temptation with USC Song Girls,
but deliver us from evil Nick Saban.’
 
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There are a lot of areas where trusting Kelly's judgment makes sense. Hiring from within his coaching tree is not one of them. Kelly hiring coaches he has worked with before is one of his biggest flaws. His track record on hires suggests he needs to go outside of his comfort zone and do a comprehensive search and interview process.

So what are Sampson, Prister, and Driskell's track record with hiring coaches? That's what Irish#1 was alluding too. At the end of the day, who cares what they think. Regardless of what you think of Kelly none of those guys have ever ran a successful P5 program.

While I don't disagree with previous good ol boys club hires, this is a different scenario. TR came up under BK's tuttiledge and by his own admission BK has changed the way he evaluates and hires coaches.

Lucky is correct. To me those guys are simply expressing their opinions and while they have more connections to the program, when it comes to the real inner workings of the program, they aren't privy to those details.
 

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Two reasons to be optimistic about Rees: (1) he's the only QB of the Kelly era to not regress significantly in his 2nd year as a starter; and (2) he's apparently the only QB Coach/ OC of the Kelly era to guide a starting QB out of his sophomore slump.
 

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Two reasons to be optimistic about Rees: (1) he's the only QB of the Kelly era to not regress significantly in his 2nd year as a starter; and (2) he's apparently the only QB Coach/ OC of the Kelly era to guide a starting QB out of his sophomore slump.

I like those thoughts. Tommy never really had shortcomings with the mental aspects, he was just physically limited in his abilities. He definitely knew what he was doing or what he should do, there were times he just wasn't capable. I'm intrigued by this move if it proves true, which is being strongly indicated.
 

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Two reasons to be optimistic about Rees: (1) he's the only QB of the Kelly era to not regress significantly in his 2nd year as a starter; and (2) he's apparently the only QB Coach/ OC of the Kelly era to guide a starting QB out of his sophomore slump.

Truth! Co-Offensive Coordinator with Lance Taylor is personally my favorite internal option. Reesus through the air and Taylor on the ground!.
 

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I love that a recruiting profile is now potentially the profile of our OC.

Edit: And this was the first post:

Those early posts are all golden:

CAN'T miss QB two classes in a row. Last year when we missed we said "wait until next year." Next year is not guaranteed. We need one at least.

What happens if Clausen leaves after this year, then crist gets hurt?

Then this board goes into meltdown mode on "why didn't we take another QB?"

Which is exactly what happened, and then Tommy took over.

then we watch Montana's son rise to glory

Or tumble in flames.

Do you really want to bank Notre Dame football on a nonscholarship player?

Any argument that he is good just because of his dad is false. Children of stars rarely amount to what their parents have.


I personally would rather never know what Montana can do. He has the chance to prove he is worthy of playing time everyday in practice. There is a reason is isnt on scholarship. People keep saying he will be our next Rudy, but let's be realistic people. How many nonscholarship players in college football make a big impact?

How many people would want a non scholarship QB starting?

People only like him because of his father. He is not Joe.

Damn, where is Synoptico now? Dude was Nostradamus.
 

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Tommy is the man. Love his tenacity. From starter, to back up/closer, back to starter. Graduates, NFL laughs at him, Grad Asst., QB Coach, turned down by measly NW in interview, ND OC (allegedly). Not to be stopped.

I'm on the Coach Tom hype train.
 

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Sampson, Prister, and Driskell all think it is a bad idea because Rees is not ready. Not even close, by the sound of it. Northwestern didn't even bring him back for a second interview, according to Driskell. He probably will be a good one someday, but he is just way short on experience at this point.

Some conflicting info on this. Prister said that Rees getting the OC job at ND was part of the reason the NW OC job didn't go further. Those are very different scenarios. Also, we must acknowledge that there are several sources out there that have stated Rees is very highly thought of in the coaching community. Even NFL community.
 

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Some conflicting info on this. Prister said that Rees getting the OC job at ND was part of the reason the NW OC job didn't go further. Those are very different scenarios. Also, we must acknowledge that there are several sources out there that have stated Rees is very highly thought of in the coaching community. Even NFL community.

Northwestern wasn't exactly scraping the bottom of the barrel with the guy they brought in, either.
 

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Ugh! Kelly’s buddy system has proven time again it can’t win a big game. Hire a real OC!!!
 

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Ugh! Kelly’s buddy system has proven time again it can’t win a big game. Hire a real OC!!!

Outside hires haven't exactly lit the world on fire either, outside of Elko/Lea and Heistand. Some of Kelly's guys have worked out very well like Elston and Rees. Some had to be shown the door.
 
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