'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

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He is your QB, you must believe #SolidarityForYourQB.

I'll root Tommy on forever, but there is a difference between rooting for your quarterback and blind homerism. I'd love nothing more than to be wrong about Tommy, but until he shows us that he's not the turnover machine he was in 2011, I can help but continue to have my doubts.
 

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I'll root Tommy on forever, but there is a difference between rooting for your quarterback and blind homerism. I'd love nothing more than to be wrong about Tommy, but until he shows us that he's not the turnover machine he was in 2011, I can help but continue to have my doubts.

It's alright. Not everyone believes in Reesus.
 

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Ha, just saw this with Eric Hansen:

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Barefoot Reesus interview with Flutie:

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I'm gonna go ahead and add to my sleaziness... I LOVE YOU TOMMY!!!
"It’s scary to think it, but Rees might be the most irreplaceable skill player on the Irish roster right now. There’s a major drop in offensive acumen from Rees to Hendrix, and any injury to Rees would necessitate taking off Zaire’s redshirt, something this coaching staff doesn’t want to do unless necessary."; 'ITI with Keith Arnold'
 

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I'm fully on board with Reesus(always have been); as I have said numerous times in the past, and was basically forced to defend my comments for saying, he has one of the proverbial coaches 'intangibles'....that is, he's a winner. it may not always be pretty, but he has shown to have some gumption.

Dude is all about kicking arse and chewing bubble gum.....and he's all out of bubble gum.
 

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I'm fully on board with Reesus(always have been); as I have said numerous times in the past, and was basically forced to defend my comments for saying, he has one of the proverbial coaches 'intangibles'....that is, he's a winner. it may not always be pretty, but he has shown to have some gumption.

Dude is all about kicking arse and chewing bubble gum.....and he's all out of bubble gum.

I agree. I've been in Tommy's corner ever since he knocked off Utah as a freshman and broke the losing streak against USC, in Southern Cal no less. Yeah, it was against a Kiffin team, and Utah was a little over ranked, but those were time wins for a true freshman. I never faulted him for his turnovers Sophomore year, turnovers happen to underclassmen. He played brilliantly as the "closer" last season. I'm just going to enjoy his Senior year, hopefully hit 10 wins at least and a nice BCS bowl win to cap it off.
 

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I was reading through the start of this thread during Tommy's recruitment. Some interesting things here given the way his career and other player's career shook out:

jason_h537 said:
Seems like where starting to reach a bit doesn't it? You need another scholarship QB. This is not enitrely about who has got next after Crist, this is also about having a reliable third and even fourth string quarterback on the roster.

WabashFalcon said:
Hey... if this kids wants to bite the bullet for four years, get a redshirt, and then pull a John David Booty, I'm good with that.

annerpw3 said:
Welcome to ND, Tommy Rees.

The fun part of welcoming a recruit is, you never know what will become of him. This kid might be the starting QB for a national championship team.

Wow, that was almost prophetic, wasn't it?

JeremyND07 said:
We are not going to get a high profile QB recruit next year either. 2012 will be the year we sign a top QB. Jimmy has 2 years left and Crist has 4...we are fine at QB. This just adds depth!

Man, how things change fast. Jimmy left early instead of taking 2 more years (Somewhat predictable), and Crist was injury prone and didn't really pan out. Heres another:

Synoptico View Post said:
CAN'T miss QB two classes in a row. Last year when we missed we said "wait until next year." Next year is not guaranteed. We need one at least.

What happens if Clausen leaves after this year, then crist gets hurt?

Then this board goes into meltdown mode on "why didn't we take another QB?"

Riddickulous said:
Reeeeeeeeees!

I honestly believe Tommy Boy is the best quarterback commitment we have. He made some great throws on his highlight tape.

Hendrix, however, had a highlight tape consisting entirely of screens, swings, and short five to ten yard passes.

Nice assessment, one of the first posters on board with Tommy even before he signed!

cwinnola said:
This kid can play. You're not reaching. Don't be surprised if Hendrix never sees the field because Rees is there.

Also somewhat prophetic.

BCSorBust said:
That would be awesome too if Rees is good enough then Hendrix redshirts and can still have a year of eligibility after Rees graduates. Maybe he would actually stay instead of transferring like it always seems one QB does when two are recruited in the same year (I know this is still probably going to happen).

Whoh, that all came true.

Ironman8 said:
Luginbill's sleeper is Notre Dame early enrollee Tommy Rees, who's not even the highest-ranked quarterback expected to sign with the Irish. (That would be Cincinnati native Andrew Hendrix.) "Not enough people recruited him," Luginbill said of Rees. "He has a chance to be a really good player." Rees figures to get a lot of work this spring with anticipated starter Dayne Crist recovering from ACL surgery.

How big was it that Tommy got to EE? Wonder if we finish worse off that season without him coming early, and no bowl/win against Miami as a result.
 

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Someone just posted this on ISD... 1:30 mark is what gives me hope... that's a perfectly thrown deep ball on a rope.

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Just got to give Tommy a clean pocket to operate in... that's priority #1. Everything else comes from that. Then it's about making good decisions with the ball.
 

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Someone just posted this on ISD... 1:30 mark is what gives me hope... that's a perfectly thrown deep ball on a rope.

Just got to give Tommy a clean pocket to operate in... that's priority #1. Everything else comes from that. Then it's about making good decisions with the ball.

Psh, only a 45 yard throw? We're looking for Jamarcus Russel-like arm strength here.
 

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Psh, only a 45 yard throw? We're looking for Jamarcus Russel-like arm strength here.

Just need one of those USC equipment managers to tamper with the balls for us...

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We need Amir and a te to always be hanging out 8 yds deep. Our opponents will be loading the box every week trying to stop the run and get pressure due to TR having no mobility. He will need someone he can float one to a lot.
 

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Rees as Tom Brady? From OUR VERY OWN IRISHLAX:

The simple fact is that the dynamic duo of Belichick and Brady has proven over a decade of relative dominance that a proficient offense is solely predicated on designing a scheme to fit your personnel. Belichick constantly tweaks and tailors his offense to fit his players as the team evolves… and without exception, the Patriots showcase a dominant offense every single season. This is despite the fact that the Patriots often have drastic turnover at their skill positions, and employ a QB that is in the bottom half of the league in physical tools. Heck, they even managed to tear it up for a season with Matt Cassel running the show. If that isn’t proof positive that scheme > “talent” I don’t know what is.

Belichick’s approach to offense is certainly a mantra held by Kelly as well. One of Kelly’s more famous quotes shortly after arriving in South Bend was about being able to “manufacture” offense but not being able to fake it on D. How will he go about “manufacturing” O this year? Well, I doubt it’s a coincidence how much time he (and Martin to a lesser degree) spent around Belichick this offseason.

When you begin to consider how closely Notre Dame’s 2013 squad mirrors the 2012 Patriots, it becomes obvious how Kelly might employ elements of the Patriots’ scheme this year. Some of the player parallels are truly striking. 6’6” 265-pound athletic freak Gronkowski? Meet 6’6.5” 270-pound Troy Niklas. Mismatch creating TE-by-name-only Hernandez? Call me crazy, but the thick and hyper-athletic 6’1” 220 CJ Prosise doesn’t seem too dissimilar from a 6’1” 240 Hernandez… well, except one isn’t a cold blooded killer. Prototypical outside WR Brandon Lloyd? DaVaris Daniels. Great route running and ever reliable Wes Welker? TJ Jones. Versatile backs that can catch passes or run with authority? We’ve got those in spades.

It goes without saying none of the Golden Domers are as polished or proven as their NFL doppelgangers… but that comes with the territory of being college players versus NFL stars. The point is that they can be used in a similar vein as those players in an effective offense without changing too much from what Notre Dame did last season. For starters, the general offensive philosophy differences between New England and Notre Dame are not as drastic as you would think at first blush. We all know Notre Dame wants to be a run-first team behind a dominant OL. What you might be surprised to learn is that the Patriots were relatively run-first last year because of their ability to use multiple TEs as effective blockers to open up running lanes. The Pats were 4th in the league in rushing yards by backs and scored the most rushing TDs in the NFL… all using players and personnel groupings similar to what Notre Dame will roll out on August 31st.

Interesting stuff.
 
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Someone just posted this on ISD... 1:30 mark is what gives me hope... that's a perfectly thrown deep ball on a rope.



Just got to give Tommy a clean pocket to operate in... that's priority #1. Everything else comes from that. Then it's about making good decisions with the ball.

This got me pretty excited. C Breezy is gonna get open on that route every time. If Tommy can put it on him like he did Floyd in that video ... this season will be fun to watch.
 

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Thats kind of crazy how they match up like that. I knew our 2 TE sets mirrored the Patriots in ways, but damn. Reesus is our Brady though? Hope so.
 

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I like the argument other than comparing Procise to Hernandez. Hernandez was an H back that was smaller than others at his position. Procise is much faster and much more of a true slot reciever in my opinion. We do have a plethora of tight ends which is similar to the patriots. Very good article though and I agree that Rees can have a very good year because of the system manipulation that Martin and Kelly will have for the team this year.
 

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Hehe actually written by yours truly.... but who's keeping score?

Guess I should've put "IrishLax" in the byline instead of my actual name lol

Haha I didn't think that sounded much like TP. Now it makes sense.

I like the argument other than comparing Procise to Hernandez. Hernandez was an H back that was smaller than others at his position. Procise is much faster and much more of a true slot reciever in my opinion. We do have a plethora of tight ends which is similar to the patriots. Very good article though and I agree that Rees can have a very good year because of the system manipulation that Martin and Kelly will have for the team this year.

I agree the comparison is a little bit of a stretch, but I think the point is that they are both tough, physical guys who are bigger than most receivers but smaller than most tight ends. Prosise is really big and strong for a slot receiver; Hernandez is small for a tight end. Either way, you've got a big, physical, strong guy making plays downfield as both a blocker and a receiver.
 
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Nice toss by Rees. But man, I forgot how much of a boss Floyd was. He was physically on another level than anyone on the field.
 

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I like the argument other than comparing Procise to Hernandez. Hernandez was an H back that was smaller than others at his position. Procise is much faster and much more of a true slot reciever in my opinion. We do have a plethora of tight ends which is similar to the patriots. Very good article though and I agree that Rees can have a very good year because of the system manipulation that Martin and Kelly will have for the team this year.

Yeah, that part was a stretch on my part. I'd expect us to use a lot more Koyack/Welch in true 2 TE sets. I actually don't expect Prosise to see the field very much at all this year. But neither of those guys compares to Hernandez really at all... Hernandez is almost one of a kind. And truly, this is one place where I think we will diverge from the Patriots because rather than lining up one guy all over the field, we'll probably line up multiple guys in the different spots as suits their strength... which makes us more predictable, but probably still hard to defend.

Watching film, the Patriots ran lots of multiple "TE" sets but rarely used Hernandez as a TE. I expect us to run multiple TE sets with TEs being used as TEs... I think you'll see us line a Koyack up in the slot or outside every once in awhile, but not nearly as much as Eifert or Hernandez.

IF Prosise (or Onwualu, etc.) can actually develop this year into a legitimate receiving threat AND dominant blocker with their large frame then they can provide the matchup with the speed/strength combo... but I don't know if they have time for that to happen. Much more likely we just go with Koyack and hope that's he's good enough that he can't be covered by a LB from most teams; and a dominant enough of a blocker to destroy a DB if they put one on him.
 
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Debbie Downer here...

That reminds me of every Charlie Weis pre-game interview. I still cringe when I hear an allusion to "schematic advantage."

That is definitely true in the NFL but I think talent trumps scheme in CFB. Also makes me happy Kelly went to see the Patriots this summer. I am hopeful he found ways to improve Rees or at least minimize mistakes.
 

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Debbie Downer here...

That reminds me of every Charlie Weis pre-game interview. I still cringe when I hear an allusion to "schematic advantage."

That is definitely true in the NFL but I think talent trumps scheme in CFB. Also makes me happy Kelly went to see the Patriots this summer. I am hopeful he found ways to improve Rees or at least minimize mistakes.

I would agree with this to some extent, but coaching and scheme plays a bigger part in a teams success. A team undoubtedly needs talent to win football games, but will not be successful with schemes that do not utilize their talents correctly. Kiffin right now is showing this first hand. He has quite a bit of talent on that roster, but from my estimation is not much of a coach. Same can be said for Chizik at Auburn, who brought in some of the best talent in the country but couldn't coach worth a crap.

Neither talent or scheme is more important, but are equally important. Without one there will not be an equation that sums up to success on the field. I have seen more teams win with outstanding coaching and less talent then I have teams with talent and horrible coaching. Scheme plays a huge role in a teams success.
 

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Someone just posted this on ISD... 1:30 mark is what gives me hope... that's a perfectly thrown deep ball on a rope.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/7dI0DqRS630" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Just got to give Tommy a clean pocket to operate in... that's priority #1. Everything else comes from that. Then it's about making good decisions with the ball.

Damnit. How did we lose that game.
 

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Damnit. How did we lose that game.

Florida State remembered how to offense I think.

Actually, it probably went two ways. Our offense started to stall as their defense made adjustments. When an offense stalls so many times, many defenses begin to crumble or get tired from the 3 and outs combined with dwindling moral. I imagine thats how the 2nd half went.
 
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