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I think we are pretty hesitant to anoint CJ as a true Heisman caliber QB, but man the praise he is getting from across the sport + our coaches is insane.
 

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Projected DL starters:

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Sebastian Cheeks
- returning starter, solid player we recruited at LB out of HS
Michael Garner or Tyreese Fearbry
- A 6’7 310 (?!) SR who played 38 snaps after transferring from Grambling State or a 5th YR Wisconsin/UK transfer who has done nothing for 4 seasons
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Hammond Russell, Charles Perkins & Junior Poyser
- A backup from WVU, Buffalo All 3rd Team MAC starter and a 5th YR former UT-Martin transfer who played 73 snaps last year

I just don’t see it. Like at all. The 5 above besides Cheeks are replacing 5 guys who signed as UDFAs after the season. It would be shocking if this is even a top 5 DL on our schedule.
 

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He is about the first ND QB I have noticed doing pre snap stuff - whatever youse call it.
Tommy Rees was pretty widely regarded as a pre-snap genius (which he had to be b/c he didn't really have the physical tools once the play actually started).
 

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Projected DL starters:

OLB
Sebastian Cheeks
- returning starter, solid player we recruited at LB out of HS
Michael Garner or Tyreese Fearbry
- A 6’7 310 (?!) SR who played 38 snaps after transferring from Grambling State or a 5th YR Wisconsin/UK transfer who has done nothing for 4 seasons
DT
Hammond Russell, Charles Perkins & Junior Poyser
- A backup from WVU, Buffalo All 3rd Team MAC starter and a 5th YR former UT-Martin transfer who played 73 snaps last year

I just don’t see it. Like at all. The 5 above besides Cheeks are replacing 5 guys who signed as UDFAs after the season. It would be shocking if this is even a top 5 DL on our schedule.
Not doubting your info but where did you find this? I’ve seen other names listed too
 

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I think we are pretty hesitant to anoint CJ as a true Heisman caliber QB, but man the praise he is getting from across the sport + our coaches is insane.
Idk about other folks, but I'm hesitant to anoint CJ as Heisman caliber because of the WR group. I have a lot of questions about that group. Does Faison take the next step? Can Greathouse stay healthy and if so, what level will his play be? Is the Graham hype for real? Is Gilbert actually good or is he the 3rd or 4th WR by default? Does Porter even play and if so, what level will his play be?

I think not getting Marsh or another solid WR with proven production could hurt this team. I really hope the WR group surprises a lot of people.
 

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Idk about other folks, but I'm hesitant to anoint CJ as Heisman caliber because of the WR group. I have a lot of questions about that group. Does Faison take the next step? Can Greathouse stay healthy and if so, what level will his play be? Is the Graham hype for real? Is Gilbert actually good or is he the 3rd or 4th WR by default? Does Porter even play and if so, what level will his play be?

I think not getting Marsh or another solid WR with proven production could hurt this team. I really hope the WR group surprises a lot of people.

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I think we are pretty hesitant to anoint CJ as a true Heisman caliber QB, but man the praise he is getting from across the sport + our coaches is insane.
CJ is dedicated to greatness and loves football/Notre Dame. A lot of qbs are good with making a lot of money and view it as a job. The greats want more. There is a reason Brady has 7 rings. CJ's film study, work ethic, and attention to detail are excellent.
 

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I think it’s kinda funny that the offense shows a little success against the defense, and people assume it means bad news for the defense. Meanwhile, for multiple seasons in a row, the defense had the offense locked in a box and no one seemed all too concerned about the offense.
We went full circle from the start of camp, we need actual football. 3 more days.
 
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I think we are pretty hesitant to anoint CJ as a true Heisman caliber QB, but man the praise he is getting from across the sport + our coaches is insane.
It's a weird pendulum where I felt like he was underrated last year and now I think he is overhyped based on projected team success lol

Like I would have Dante Moore, Mensah, and Chambliss over him in Heisman odds just based on how those teams are likely to stat pad.
 

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Same. Open at home against Rice. That's it. You don't have to play four cupcakes in September like Cignetti is doing, and hell I don't fault that at all, but get a couple of games under your belt before you start doing full installs on offense and opening up the playbook. Conference or not.

Freeman openers:

At Ohio State
Navy at Dublin, Ireland
at TAMU
at Miami

It's bonkers on paper and he's 2-2.

From the looks of current future schedules, it won't get any easier.

Hindsight says ND should've been 4-0. Hubris to not take a QB transfer year one. Asinine game plan in Miami last year. Just my opinion. Ash played a weird style of defense the first 2.5 games before they finally adjusted. And I think Denbrock protected CJ too much and went away from Love too soon.

With that said, I agree....stop scheduling these ridiculous games right out of the gate. It's a recipe for disaster as ND and Texas found out the hard way last year. Win, and everything is hunky dory. But why take such a huge risk? Play Rice and knock the rust off. Then week 2, get after it.
 

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Projected DL starters:

OLB
Sebastian Cheeks
- returning starter, solid player we recruited at LB out of HS
Michael Garner or Tyreese Fearbry
- A 6’7 310 (?!) SR who played 38 snaps after transferring from Grambling State or a 5th YR Wisconsin/UK transfer who has done nothing for 4 seasons
DT
Hammond Russell, Charles Perkins & Junior Poyser
- A backup from WVU, Buffalo All 3rd Team MAC starter and a 5th YR former UT-Martin transfer who played 73 snaps last year

I just don’t see it. Like at all. The 5 above besides Cheeks are replacing 5 guys who signed as UDFAs after the season. It would be shocking if this is even a top 5 DL on our schedule.

Agree - this was the most surprising part of my review of them. Their DL might be bottom 5 in the B10. Incredible with how far into Fickell’s tenure we are. I don't really see them being as good in general on defence as the last half of last year.
 

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Hindsight says ND should've been 4-0. Hubris to not take a QB transfer year one. Asinine game plan in Miami last year. Just my opinion. Ash played a weird style of defense the first 2.5 games before they finally adjusted. And I think Denbrock protected CJ too much and went away from Love too soon.

With that said, I agree....stop scheduling these ridiculous games right out of the gate. It's a recipe for disaster as ND and Texas found out the hard way last year. Win, and everything is hunky dory. But why take such a huge risk? Play Rice and knock the rust off. Then week 2, get after it.
I think playing high profile openers is one of the inescapable costs of independence
 
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