Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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1776 said:
Nobody is unhappy or not enjoying the moment. I think everyone is just coming to terms with the reality that he won’t be here for much longer if he keeps maintaining this level of success, so we need to strike ASAP before he leaves.

You are the one that got all upset and starting calling people pussies for acknowledging what is right in front of our faces. I get you want to act ignorant that

1. Bevacqua acknowledged its year to year
2. Freeman is getting restructured contracts every year
3. It has come out that Freeman was in communication with multiple teams
4. Freeman himself worded his return in a specific way that implies he is year to year
5. Freeman himself words his answers about leaving extremely carefully

Noticing this pattern is not the same as being unhappy or a pussy or a sadomasochist, you’re literally having a breakdown over it.
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What’s super frustrating is that the reaction went instantly to MF leaving after next year. I find it hard to understand why that’s the instant reaction. Let’s celebrate the fact that he is coming back - that he has signed on for an extra year - that the University has stepped up and made him one of the highest paid coaches. Why is that so hard?
 
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Maybe a dumb question, but has Freeman really showed that much interest in the NFL? Or just using the NFL to get a raise?
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Here's how I would phrase it:
-When Penn State and Florida call his agent, he tells his agent he's not interested
-When the Giants and some others contact his agent, he listens to what they have to say
 
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NDohio said:
What’s super frustrating is that the reaction went instantly to MF leaving after next year. I find it hard to understand why that’s the instant reaction. Let’s celebrate the fact that he is coming back - that he has signed on for an extra year - that the University has stepped up and made him one of the highest paid coaches. Why is that so hard?
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I'm with you in the sense that I'd rather focus on what's right ahead of us (another year of Feeeman). That said, I understand the sentiment from the board because program building is a multi year endeavour and ND finally has a coach whose recruiting chops (paired with rev share and NIL) are overcoming ND's historical recruiting disadvantages vs their peers. He happens to be a well above average on field coach as well and that combination of coach + recruiter + character puts him in the upper echelon of "total packages".

When Alabama was contending every year it felt like Nick Saban was going to be there for the long term. When Dabo Sweeney was winning Nattys and competing every year it felt very similar. The same can be said right now with the likes of Kirby Smart. There is rarely any talk that he'd leave Georgia. The ND fan base is frustrated that they think ND has a guy at / near that level and don't get to enjoy that same feeling of coaching security.
 
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I'm with you in the sense that I'd rather focus on what's right ahead of us (another year of Feeeman). That said, I understand the sentiment from the board because program building is a multi year endeavour and ND finally has a coach whose recruiting chops (paired with rev share and NIL) are overcoming ND's historical recruiting disadvantages vs their peers. He happens to be a well above average on field coach as well and that combination of coach + recruiter + character puts him in the upper echelon of "total packages".

When Alabama was contending every year it felt like Nick Saban was going to be there for the long term. When Dabo Sweeney was winning Nattys and competing every year it felt very similar. The same can be said right now with the likes of Kirby Smart. There is rarely any talk that he'd leave Georgia. The ND fan base is frustrated that they think ND has a guy at / near that level and don't get to enjoy that same feeling of coaching security.
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I guess? I am just not wired that way. I love what MF is doing at ND - I hope he stays here for a while - but I now KNOW for certain he is here next year with an amazing roster and a coaching staff that seems to be bought in as well. I choose to celebrate that….
 
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Have any of the fine sports journalists who cover this hallowed football program been able to confirm that there were any formal interviews between Freeman and any NFL franchises in the last few weeks and or months?
 
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Side note: wish someone would destroy that loser Josh Pate, who was sooooo convinced Freeman was taking the Giants job, when he was on with those barstool idiots

- sorry… that she’s arrogance just bothers me
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Josh Pate (subjectively handsome man) has been too busy with his new (objectively gorgeous) wife to fact check any assertions.
 
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NDohio said:
I guess? I am just not wired that way. I love what MF is doing at ND - I hope he stays here for a while - but I now KNOW for certain he is here next year with an amazing roster and a coaching staff that seems to be bought in as well. I choose to celebrate that….
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There is nothing wrong with you viewing life through that prism my dude. It's probably healthy.

For people that enjoy the continuity component of dynasty building within a program, however, I fully understand their anxiety about the potential loss of recruiting momentum, the inevitable roster turnover and the perceived "2 steps back" the program would take with the loss of Freeman, after a short stint in South Bend.
 
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Side note: wish someone would destroy that loser Josh Pate, who was sooooo convinced Freeman was taking the Giants job, when he was on with those barstool idiots

- sorry… that she’s arrogance just bothers me
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Last season he wasn’t bad. This season it’s like someone has hacked him and changed his views.
 
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Josh Pate (subjectively handsome man) has been too busy with his new (objectively gorgeous) wife to fact check any assertions.
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Great to have Coach MF back at least for another season. I wonder, given NDs past (post Holtz) issues hiring a coach, who does ND have on a shortlist as candidates?
 
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IrishLax said:
Here's how I would phrase it:
-When Penn State and Florida call his agent, he tells his agent he's not interested
-When the Giants and some others contact his agent, he listens to what they have to say
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Makes complete and total sense. It's how it works more often than not.

He's hot right now. His stock is high. In two years, who knows what it looks like. I hope he's as hot or hotter in these carousel circles because it means ND Is winning and he's doing well. Wasn't looking all that great after they lost to NIU coming off a 10-3 season the year before. Suddenly everyone wants to contact him and toe the water. A lot can happen in a short period of time, but ultimately if nobody is interested in talking to your coach or your assistant coaches, you're not doing anything worth writing home about. That's something we're clearly not used to as a fanbase and certain folks are going to have to come to grips with it.

Marcus Freeman is the coach of Notre Dame Football until he isn't. Que sera, sera.
 
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IrishLax said:
Here's how I would phrase it:
-When Penn State and Florida call his agent, he tells his agent he's not interested
-When the Giants and some others contact his agent, he listens to what they have to say
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Agents sometimes get a bad name because of the player or coach they are representing.

Look at the Freddie Freeman shit show. Freeman blamed his agent and the agent blamed Freeman. At any point Freeman could have said I don’t care what the best offer you is I want to stay in Atlanta. He didn’t. So when Freeman came out in the interview he played poor poor Freeman when he could have ended the saga.
 
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I really just think the idea that the NFL has more downtime is appealing to Freeman because of his young, large family. It is not an indictment of Notre Dame imo.
However Freeman is smart enough to know the NFL is a shredder and will only listen if he is guaranteed longer term deals. Hence, the long window of talks. I do not think any NFL team will offer him that at this time in his career.

We’ll see what happens but I think we will have Freeman for the foreseeable future…unless a NFL team is willing to give him some longevity
 
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I keep coming back to the fact that Marcus Freeman, who turns 40 in a few weeks, has spent his entire life in the states of Ohio and Indiana. I don't know if that's just his network or if there are some deep rooted midwestern values in the guy, but the idea of him and his 43-12 National Championship less resume going to the New York Giants just seems like a bridge too far. The historical trends on this are hard to deny.

NFL culture is very different. I know times have changed in the college game, but the cautionary tale is a guy like Dennis Erickson. He probably won close to 200 games as a college head coach. Won 2 National Championships. He had two bites at the NFL apple and both ended up crashing out pretty hard. Most people bring up Saban, Jimmy Johnson, Poodle and Harbaugh. Erickson, for me, is the guy that is probably the most likely outcome for how most of these dudes are going to turn out. You're going to go, and then you're going to wind up right back in college. Erickson is unique in that he got a second chance in the NFL.

You find NFL coaches in the NFL. This isn't to say that there will not be mutual interest between Freeman and NFL teams, but until there is a formal interview, I'm not going to worry about interest and back channel footsie. Again, as a Bears fan, I wanted zero part of Marcus Freeman last year or any other college coach. NFL programs need NFL people that know how to run them.
 
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NDohio said:
What’s super frustrating is that the reaction went instantly to MF leaving after next year. I find it hard to understand why that’s the instant reaction. Let’s celebrate the fact that he is coming back - that he has signed on for an extra year - that the University has stepped up and made him one of the highest paid coaches. Why is that so hard?
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It’s reasonable simultaneously celebrate his return and also acknowledge that we may not have much longer to get it done.
 
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As far as Freeman and not knowing the man personally, I get the sense that the person you see in interviews and on the TV is the same person Freeman is off camera. Marcus has shown an ability to focus on the now and not look too far down the road or into the future. So many interviews, he has stressed the ONLY game is the NEXT game. I think with him quietly allowing the process to work itself out not focusing on 2027 and beyond, that Is Freeman staying consistent and focusing on the now and not focusing on anything but the players coming back and the 2027 recruiting class.
 
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As far as Freeman and not knowing the man personally, I get the sense that the person you see in interviews and on the TV is the same person Freeman is off camera. Marcus has shown an ability to focus on the now and not look too far down the road or into the future. So many interviews, he has stressed the ONLY game is the NEXT game. I think with him quietly allowing the process to work itself out not focusing on 2027 and beyond, that Is Freeman staying consistent and focusing on the now and not focusing on anything but the players coming back and the 2027 recruiting class.
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He's also in a no win situation because of the 24/7 coverage these days. If he says he's staying long term and doesn't, he'll be vilified. He says he's in for 2026. That's good enough for me. Yeah, I'd love it if he said he'd be here for the next 10 years. But that's just not the world we live in right now. I completely understand taking the path of least resistance publicly.
 
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Other than recruiting travel is there more downtime to being an NFL head coach? I remember years ago watching a “Top 10 worst college coaches in the NFL” show on the NFL network & Steve Spurrier was on the list. IIRC They talked about how Spurrier wanted to go golfing after practice and said he was still in college mode where the nfl required more work. Been while since I watched that but I really don’t know what coaching job would allow you more time at home, if any.
 
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There's way too many other things now that dictate your time as a coach let alone a head coach at a top 5 program. I'd say the head coach at ND has as much time called for than any NFL head coach
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
I keep coming back to the fact that Marcus Freeman, who turns 40 in a few weeks, has spent his entire life in the states of Ohio and Indiana. I don't know if that's just his network or if there are some deep rooted midwestern values in the guy, but the idea of him and his 43-12 National Championship less resume going to the New York Giants just seems like a bridge too far. The historical trends on this are hard to deny.

NFL culture is very different. I know times have changed in the college game, but the cautionary tale is a guy like Dennis Erickson. He probably won close to 200 games as a college head coach. Won 2 National Championships. He had two bites at the NFL apple and both ended up crashing out pretty hard. Most people bring up Saban, Jimmy Johnson, Poodle and Harbaugh. Erickson, for me, is the guy that is probably the most likely outcome for how most of these dudes are going to turn out. You're going to go, and then you're going to wind up right back in college. Erickson is unique in that he got a second chance in the NFL.

You find NFL coaches in the NFL. This isn't to say that there will not be mutual interest between Freeman and NFL teams, but until there is a formal interview, I'm not going to worry about interest and back channel footsie. Again, as a Bears fan, I wanted zero part of Marcus Freeman last year or any other college coach. NFL programs need NFL people that know how to run them.
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Erickson was never that good without a huge talent advantage provided by flagrant cheating at Miami and the Fiasco Bowl year in Oregon State (85 + TJ Houshmensomething).
I was at ASU when Dennis was floundering along incapable of winning one in five games that would have gotten them to the PAC title game. Erickson was destined for mediocrity at best when the NCAA put his program on probation. So it's not like he gave up very much to try the NFL.

Side note, I did not know he was still in coaching after ASU

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As far as Freeman and not knowing the man personally, I get the sense that the person you see in interviews and on the TV is the same person Freeman is off camera. Marcus has shown an ability to focus on the now and not look too far down the road or into the future. So many interviews, he has stressed the ONLY game is the NEXT game. I think with him quietly allowing the process to work itself out not focusing on 2027 and beyond, that Is Freeman staying consistent and focusing on the now and not focusing on anything but the players coming back and the 2027 recruiting class.
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We talk about Freeman's results on the field a lot. Another topic is his mic skills. We haven't had a HC who is so good with the media post St Lou.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
I keep coming back to the fact that Marcus Freeman, who turns 40 in a few weeks, has spent his entire life in the states of Ohio and Indiana. I don't know if that's just his network or if there are some deep rooted midwestern values in the guy, but the idea of him and his 43-12 National Championship less resume going to the New York Giants just seems like a bridge too far. The historical trends on this are hard to deny.

NFL culture is very different. I know times have changed in the college game, but the cautionary tale is a guy like Dennis Erickson. He probably won close to 200 games as a college head coach. Won 2 National Championships. He had two bites at the NFL apple and both ended up crashing out pretty hard. Most people bring up Saban, Jimmy Johnson, Poodle and Harbaugh. Erickson, for me, is the guy that is probably the most likely outcome for how most of these dudes are going to turn out. You're going to go, and then you're going to wind up right back in college. Erickson is unique in that he got a second chance in the NFL.

You find NFL coaches in the NFL. This isn't to say that there will not be mutual interest between Freeman and NFL teams, but until there is a formal interview, I'm not going to worry about interest and back channel footsie. Again, as a Bears fan, I wanted zero part of Marcus Freeman last year or any other college coach. NFL programs need NFL people that know how to run them.
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All this makes sense to me, as a Steeler fan I want Tomlin gone, and if that ever comes to fruition.... MF doesn't hit my top 10 to replace him. College football rah rah guys like MF and Kirby are amazing at this level and I don't have a doubt they would not have the same success at the next level. Maybe in 15+ years for both guys I mentioned, but right now...they connect to well to these young men. Not a bad thing.
 
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Notre Dame Joe said:
Erickson was never that good without a huge talent advantage provided by flagrant cheating at Miami and the Fiasco Bowl year in Oregon State (85 + TJ Houshmensomething).
I was at ASU when Dennis was floundering along incapable of winning one in five games that would have gotten them to the PAC title game. Erickson was destined for mediocrity at best when the NCAA put his program on probation. So it's not like he gave up very much to try the NFL.

Side note, I did not know he was still in coaching after ASU

en.wikipedia.org

Dennis Erickson - Wikipedia

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We talk about Freeman's results on the field a lot. Another topic is his mic skills. We haven't had a HC who is so good with the media post St Lou.
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He speaks well and looks good, but for me....I'd love him to go off script every once in a while and not give the ND Football coach answer. Every once in a while, I'd love to hear from the fired up ex LB who shoots from the hip!
 
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irishnd31 said:
As far as Freeman and not knowing the man personally, I get the sense that the person you see in interviews and on the TV is the same person Freeman is off camera. Marcus has shown an ability to focus on the now and not look too far down the road or into the future. So many interviews, he has stressed the ONLY game is the NEXT game. I think with him quietly allowing the process to work itself out not focusing on 2027 and beyond, that Is Freeman staying consistent and focusing on the now and not focusing on anything but the players coming back and the 2027 recruiting class.
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What is this serious post bullshit right here? You got the superflu? Let me know if you need anything fam
 
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