'12 IN QB Gunner Kiel (Cincinnati Transfer)

t3hjc · Feb 2, 2012

He owes Gunner a public apology. That's completely uncalled for and unprofessional. The university should step in if he won't.

BeauBenken · Feb 2, 2012

t3hjc said:
He owes Gunner a public apology. That's completely uncalled for and unprofessional. The university should step in if he won't.

I don't want one. lol

I wouldn't if I was Gunner either.

greyhammer90 · Feb 2, 2012

He won't. That was not an "off the cuff" line. It was planned and delivered. Best thing that can happen here is Gunner shuts him up.

TerryTate · Feb 2, 2012

t3hjc said:
He owes Gunner a public apology. That's completely uncalled for and unprofessional. The university should step in if he won't.

No, he doesn't.

Coaches are allowed to express frustration as they manage multimillion "franchises," and their success is tied to an 18 year old who changes his mind every 10 seconds.

Gunner's flip prevented another EE from joining LSU. He has a right to be angry. Do you think Kelly's "4 games vs. 4 years" comment was inappropriate?

Bogtrotter07 · Feb 2, 2012

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Originally Posted by t3hjc
He owes Gunner a public apology. That's completely uncalled for and unprofessional. The university should step in if he won't.

No, he doesn't.

Coaches are allowed to express frustration as they manage multimillion "franchises," and their success is tied to an 18 year old who changes his mind every 10 seconds.

Gunner's flip prevented another EE from joining LSU. He has a right to be angry. Do you think Kelly's "4 games vs. 4 years" comment was inappropriate?

Terry,

I don't think that BK's comment was at all inappropriate.
A) He was talking football,
B) He was being instructive,
C) He was trying to show how actions predict performance,
D) He didn't pander to the audience,
E) Kelly and Miles have nothing in common, especially class and decorum,
F) Kelly never got personal with turning a figurative trait into a physical trait, like "you limp-dicked SOB; which is how everyone I spoke to took Miles.

Bog T. Rotter

t3hjc · Feb 2, 2012

TerryTate said:
No, he doesn't.

Coaches are allowed to express frustration as they manage multimillion "franchises," and their success is tied to an 18 year old who changes his mind every 10 seconds. Gunner's flip prevented another EE from joining LSU. He has a right to be angry.

Express your frustration privately, don't go out in front of the student body and publicly ridicule a kid for wanting to stay closer to his family. What he did was unbecoming of someone who heads the college football program of a major university and I can not believe you'd even attempt to defend it.

TerryTate said:
Do you think Kelly's "4 games vs. 4 years" comment was inappropriate?

Kelly shouldn't have made any comment, though I think his came within the course of an interview, it wasn't a prepared remark like in the case of Miles. Miles went out of his way to explicitly bring up Kiel. It also ignores the fact that Kiel and Greenberry handled their decommitments completely differently, and it also doesn't account for the fact that what Miles said was on its face 100x worse than what Kelly did. Greenberry had also been committed to Notre Dame for the better part of a year, Kiel had been committed to LSU for the better part of two weeks.

Irish Fam · Feb 2, 2012

Running it on sportscenter. Titled, "Les Rips Recruit"

clashmore_mike · Feb 2, 2012

getting a lot of hits on twitter around the college football world, not just Notre Dame related guys. I haven't seen Kelly's comment mentioned once other than ND guys.

greyhammer90 · Feb 2, 2012

Good to see that ESPN is actually reporting on this, not just sweeping it under the carpet.

greyhammer90 · Feb 2, 2012

clashmore_mike said:
getting a lot of hits on twitter around the college football world, not just Notre Dame related guys. I haven't seen Kelly's comment mentioned once other than ND guys.

Yeah there are a lot of journalist pissed off about this.

TerryTate · Feb 2, 2012

t3hjc said:
Express your frustration privately, don't go out in front of the student body and publicly ridicule a kid for wanting to stay closer to his family. What he did was unbecoming of someone who heads the college football program of a major university and I can not believe you'd even attempt to defend it.

Kelly shouldn't have made any comment, though I think his came within the course of an interview, it wasn't a prepared remark like in the case of Miles. Miles went out of his way to explicitly bring up Kiel. It also ignores the fact that Kiel and Greenberry handled their decommitments completely differently, and it also doesn't account for the fact that what Miles said was on its face 100x worse than what Kelly did.

I'm not saying I would have handled it like that. I'm saying that coaches are going to express their opinions. I don't think he should have attacked Kiel's character, but he was obviously going to address what happened. Kiel messed with their recruiting numbers by switching at the last minute. Kelly may be classier, but I would call "play against him for 4 games instead of with him for 4 years" is a similar, yet more subtle, criticism of a recruit's character. Did Miles act like a brat? Sure. Is it wrong that he was mad? No.

I wouldn't say DGB & Kiel handled their decommitments differently either. They both switched on the last day.

The "4 games vs. 4 years" was a prepared remark. He knew he was going to be asked the question. He just had a classier response.

Bogtrotter07 · Feb 2, 2012

If I remember, Kiel called and spoke with his recruiter at LSU through the process. He handled it just like someone that wanted to make sure he had a spot before he jumped would. (Kind of the difference between running to and running away . . .)

Irish Insanity · Feb 2, 2012

I'm sure Gunner has more leadership qualities at this point in his life than all the LSU QBs combined.

chgocub23 · Feb 2, 2012

Gunner doesn't fit in down in Louisiana anyway, He didn't beat up a United States Marine.

tommyIRISH23 · Feb 2, 2012

I feel like karma is going to place us in a bowl game with LSU next year. I feel like whenever there is a controversy like this, the teams meet shortly after.

BurningRiver · Feb 2, 2012

I think Gunner's only proper response will be to beat LSU in the National Championship game next January.

Your move, Gunner. Your move.

BeauBenken · Feb 2, 2012

tommyIRISH23 said:
I feel like karma is going to place us in a bowl game with LSU next year. I feel like whenever there is a controversy like this, the teams meet shortly after.

Karma? Or some people pulling strings? lol

Redbar · Feb 2, 2012

Bogtrotter07 said:
Terry,

I don't think that BK's comment was at all inappropriate.
A) He was talking football,
B) He was being instructive,
C) He was trying to show how actions predict performance,
D) He didn't pander to the audience,
E) Kelly and Miles have nothing in common, especially class and decorum,
F) Kelly never got personal with turning a figurative trait into a physical trait, like "you limp-dicked SOB; which is how everyone I spoke to took Miles.

Bog T. Rotter

Gotta agree with you, Mr. Rotter!

ThePiombino · Feb 2, 2012

BurningRiver said:
I think Gunner's only proper response will be to beat LSU in the National Championship game next January.

Your move, Gunner. Your move.

I don't know about next January, but soon enough. I feel you.

clashmore_mike · Feb 17, 2012

"@GunnerKiel: Just finished watching Rudy. Think I might watch it every Saturday before games to get fired up. Love that movie!"

arahop · Feb 17, 2012

clashmore_mike said:
"@GunnerKiel: Just finished watching Rudy. Think I might watch it every Saturday before games to get fired up. Love that movie!"

My girlfriend just let me know that. Fortunately or unfortunately for me she follows a lot of ND players via twitter. I think all that anyone needs to do to have a successful life is watch Rudy before they leave their house everyday.

STLDomer · Feb 17, 2012

clashmore_mike said:
"@GunnerKiel: Just finished watching Rudy. Think I might watch it every Saturday before games to get fired up. Love that movie!"

Gunner Kiel: "I don't always tweet, but when I do it is usually important. Stay thirsty my followers."

Me2SouthBend · Feb 17, 2012

STLDomer said:
Gunner Kiel: "I don't always tweet, but when I do it is usually important. Stay thirsty my followers."

I can relate to that.

phgreek · Feb 18, 2012

In my best William Shatner as Captain Kirk voice...

Hard...not...to ...make...sports drink....JOKE!

Me2SouthBend · Mar 27, 2012

Freebie from Inside the Irish. He's got class that Les Miles can't even comprehend.

Gunner Kiel passes first test | Inside the Irish

irishff1014 · Mar 27, 2012

Me2SouthBend said:
Freebie from Inside the Irish. He's got class that Les Miles can't even comprehend.

Gunner Kiel passes first test | Inside the Irish

He answers all the question just like a young man should. He was very respectful toward Miles comments when some people would open their mouths with out thinking.

ChiRish · Mar 28, 2012

irishff1014 said:
He answers all the question just like a young man should. He was very respectful toward Miles comments when some people would open their mouths with out thinking.

Agreed. Good to know he has more class than a supposedly successful coach who is responsible for transitioning men from high school to the real world. Just another SEC dbag.

STLDomer · Apr 4, 2012

“@BradCarrico56: @GunnerKiel looks like Larry Bird right now with the mustache #Unreal”

cLaRk_JoNeS · Apr 4, 2012

need more Kiel passing highlights, whoever is filming/editing the highlights has failed to give the ppl what they want.

Ndaccountant · Apr 4, 2012

STLDomer said:
“@BradCarrico56: @GunnerKiel looks like Larry Bird right now with the mustache #Unreal”

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