'12 CA CB Tee Shepard (Ole Miss Transfer)

[Bogtrotter07]

To start with ND would have committed multiple recruiting violations as Tee wasn't a member for the UND student body 12 months ago, was he?





Really, not impossible but very close? It's not even improbable as it's happened several times at ND alone that I'm aware of. Now mulitply that by a couple of hundred colleges in all the divisions of the NCAA. Every year seemingly healthy athletes in practice, in a game, or after a game, collapse. Some live and some die.

All had one or more physicals which didn't detect a problem. Were all the medical staffs incompetent? Every day in the non-athletic world people die of congential conditions which were asymptomatic. Lots of them have had physicals too but physical don't find everything.

In '95 Tom Krug was backup to Powlus. When Powlus had his arm broken against Navy, Krug finished out the season. Big strong kid, 6-5, 210, great arm. He was labeled the 8 Million Dollar QB because he won the games that got ND bowl eligible. The next spring in the B&G game he sprained his neck. The doctor had x-rays taken although there were no serious systems nor complaints. Turned out Krug had a congential neck problem. His C-1 was connected to his skull and C-2 and C-3 were fused. He had two year of eligibilty left but doctors told him not to play sports again. His career was over. He had 3 years of college physicials as well as several years of HS physicals, he had no symptoms in 20 years despite playing QB and Safety in HS. He was fortunate to have sprain which led to the x-rays which found a problem before harm was done. Today's he a judge in Florida.

I always wondered where the judiary came from.

 

[jjsccer2]

Just by following Tee's twitter page made me question this kid. Everybody was raving about his "swag". This kid is just bizarre. He was tweeting at like 4 am constantly talking about the dumbest things when the team had early morning workouts. He put up pictures of him doing footwork in the locker room when no one was around. He just seemed like he was all about himself and didn't even try to mesh with the team. Really not surprised by this and really don't care that he left.

 

[ThePiombino]

Just by following Tee's twitter page made me question this kid. Everybody was raving about his "swag". This kid is just bizarre. He was tweeting at like 4 am constantly talking about the dumbest things when the team had early morning workouts. He put up pictures of him doing footwork in the locker room when no one was around. He just seemed like he was all about himself and didn't even try to mesh with the team. Really not surprised by this and really don't care that he left.

Whatever helps you sleep at night...

 

[BeauBenken]

Everybody who says they don't care he is gone keeps bring up his twitter page. Weird.

 

[ChiRish]

Everybody who says the don't care he is gone keeps bring up his twitter page. Weird.

Yeah, I really don't care about losing a consensus top 5 CB. It's really not that big of a deal. He tweeted too much anyways.

 

[IrishInChains]

Maybe I'm overthinking this or it may sound silly. To me it seems this kid is really sheltered and very protected by his family. If I recall his dad is who turned Notre Dame on to his cousin, who appears to be a little less protected. His dad may have thought Greenberry would help look after his son when he could not. I think Tee tried to live through Greenberry with his "swag" or whatever it is called. Once he lost his alter-ego he was just another protected, nice house, picket fence kind of kid. Far from what he may have portrayed himself on social network sites. Looks like the kid who wants to be a rock star but is too scared to come out of his room and let the world see his talent. Unless he has someone to hold his hand on stage. You guys don't beat me up too bad if this has been mentioned. I don't follow all this as close as some of you. Either way....GO IRISH!!!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Insterexsting hypothesis.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Just by following Tee's twitter page made me question this kid. Everybody was raving about his "swag". This kid is just bizarre. He was tweeting at like 4 am constantly talking about the dumbest things when the team had early morning workouts. He put up pictures of him doing footwork in the locker room when no one was around. He just seemed like he was all about himself and didn't even try to mesh with the team. Really not surprised by this and really don't care that he left.

This is so illogical. You sound like every other fanbase saying "Oh, dodged a bullet there!!" Cognitive dissonance does some silly things to people.

"he was all about himself, not even trying to mesh with the team." Yeahhhhhhh whatever..

 

[Bogtrotter07]

This is so illogical. You sound like every other fanbase saying "Oh, dodged a bullet there!!" Cognitive dissonance does some silly things to people.

"he was all about himself, not even trying to mesh with the team." Yeahhhhhhh whatever..

Buster counters with some big words that represents one of the major psychological phenomena of a social web site . . .

 

[ChiRish]

This is so illogical. You sound like every other fanbase saying "Oh, dodged a bullet there!!" Cognitive dissonance does some silly things to people.

"he was all about himself, not even trying to mesh with the team." Yeahhhhhhh whatever..

Agree with this. I guarantee we could go back in this thread, probably not very far, where legions of people on this site were lining up to talk about how he was their favorite recruit, how they couldn't wait to see him, whatever. Now, without knowing the exact story and judging an 18 year old based on his twitter account, he apparently "just seemed like he was all about himself and didn't even try to mesh with the team."

Not only do we not know how he meshed with the team, but is it entirely reasonable that his reasons for leaving could be the same as other 18 year olds who find themselves in the same position. His decision making is magnified as a highly touted recruit who entered school early, but he's still a student and a teenager.

I understand that receiving a free education to Notre Dame and being a member of the football team admittedly lays upon all the players a higher sense of responsibility, but to look at his twitter and facebook and all of a sudden question his character and commitment is ridiculous.

I'm going to miss Tee because he seemed to be all ND from the get go, and he was going to be an excellent player for us. His reasons for leaving are his reasons. Until we know what those are, can we hold off on judgment? I would rather focus the discussion on the impact his departure has on FOOTBALL.

 

[Kingbish01]

Swag

 

[clashmore_mike]

I think a few of the players tweeted they hated to see Tee go because of how good of a guy he was. Said he was funny and fun to be around. Probably wouldn't get those comments if he was all about himself.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Nobody knows anything. For me this is like watching a bunch of guys in a closed room with burlap bags over their head and wooden sticks in their hands. Keep it up, this is funny as shat.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Nobody knows anything. For me this is like watching a bunch of guys in a closed room with burlap bags over their head and wooden sticks in their hands. Keep it up, this is funny as shat.

The good news is that I have the biggest stick

 

[Bogtrotter07]

That's what makes it so funny.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

What blows my mind was how insane this class could have been if even half of everyone's speculation/rumors came true (or didnt come true concerning decommits). From Tee to Greenberry to Darby to Wright to Decker to Agholor to the Armstead brothers to Diggs to Treggs to even Green-Beckham.

There were people thowing out tweets from recruits that gave a slight glimmer of hope but many knew there was no shot we would land the later half of the group I listed above. The ups and downs of recruting and 17-18 year olds....

 

[ChiRish]

What blows my mind was how insane this class could have been if even half of everyone's speculation/rumors came true (or didnt come true concerning decommits). From Tee to Greenberry to Darby to Wright to Decker to Agholor to the Armstead brothers to Diggs to Treggs to even Green-Beckham.

There were people thowing out tweets from recruits that gave a slight glimmer of hope but many knew there was no shot we would land the later half of the group I listed above. The ups and downs of recruting and 17-18 year olds....

Yeah, I hate to lament the woulda, coulda, shouldas, but I can only imagine the momentum we would have going forward if Tee, Greenberry, Darby, and Decker had stuck in the fold, and really not to mention if Armond Armstead had somehow cleared the medical staff giving us Arik. WOW.

On another note, I really wish we had not lost Bennett Okotcha. He would have come in extremely handy now with the depth problems we're going to have.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

What blows my mind was how insane this class could have been if even half of everyone's speculation/rumors came true (or didnt come true concerning decommits). From Tee to Greenberry to Darby to Wright to Decker to Agholor to the Armstead brothers to Diggs to Treggs to even Green-Beckham.

There were people thowing out tweets from recruits that gave a slight glimmer of hope but many knew there was no shot we would land the later half of the group I listed above. The ups and downs of recruting and 17-18 year olds....

The truth.

 

[Kingbish01]

How about I'm in my office all by myself working on this spreadsheet, with my cell taping me. I'm effin killing this spreadsheet...Yep, this video is going on youtube! Sw.....I don't even need the "a" or the "g" P.S. Sw= Super Working!

 

[ND NYC]

i'm a little late to the tee shep leaving nd party....am i to understand that ND doctors didnt clear tee due to a heart/health issue and so tee is leaving b/c we are saying he cant play for us?

if this is true those nd doctors not only cost us tee but also the armstead brothers. i know they have to do their jobs and do the right thing just mind boggling how much bad luck we have had lately all things ND (on the filed, off the field, recruiting, twitter, health issues).

 

[Bogtrotter07]

New batter!

 

[Emcee77]

i'm a little late to the tee shep leaving nd party....am i to understand that ND doctors didnt clear tee due to a heart/health issue and so tee is leaving b/c we are saying he cant play for us?
if this is true those nd doctors not only cost us tee but also the armstead brothers. i know they have to do their jobs and do the right thing just mind boggling how much bad luck we have had lately all things ND (on the filed, off the field, recruiting, twitter, health issues).

No. I'm sure it seemed that way based on what you read in this thread, but that is mostly speculation by us. All we know for sure is that Tee has a medical issue that prevents him from working out till May-ish, and that he has left ND and does not intend to return. Unless new **** has come to light that I don't know about (and I've been following this pretty closely), we don't know that Tee left because ND won't clear him to play. It's a valid guess, but it remains just a guess at this point. May also have been academics or personal reasons or any combination of the above.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Or, a bad tweet raport . . .

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Saw this in the 4HL, a bit out there, but a bit on the money too in some aspects:

"This sounds like face saving crap, pure and simple.
Let me get this straight:
1) Left ND for health reasons, but as a scholarship athlete at ND had access to the best medical care available. Free.
2) Now he's back in Fresno to take care of his medical issues on his own dime. Where? A county hospital?
3) Despite this medical condition that has caused him to leave an ND scholarship on the table, he'll be ready to work out in a few weeks.

How can anyone buy this?"

Another:

"I realize that there are some on the 4 HL that do not want to believe this for whatever reason, but Tee basically had an exit strategy from Day # 1: Don't go to class and fail all your courses, thus he could get a fresh start somewhere where he really wanted to be after a few months at Notre Dame. Obviously, his strategy worked to a "Tee."

 

[Irishnuke]

i'm a little late to the tee shep leaving nd party....am i to understand that ND doctors didnt clear tee due to a heart/health issue and so tee is leaving b/c we are saying he cant play for us?

if this is true those nd doctors not only cost us tee but also the armstead brothers. i know they have to do their jobs and do the right thing just mind boggling how much bad luck we have had lately all things ND (on the filed, off the field, recruiting, twitter, health issues).

You're sh1tting me, right? The docs cost us these guys? Should they have cleared them and let them die on the field? I think you are just wording this poorly and don't really mean that. I hope.

 

[jimmymac]

heard from a couple of kids that were in class with tee that he hardly ever showed up and to their knowledge did not turn in an assignments at all... sad

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Saw this in the 4HL, a bit out there, but a bit on the money too in some aspects:

"This sounds like face saving crap, pure and simple.
Let me get this straight:
1) Left ND for health reasons, but as a scholarship athlete at ND had access to the best medical care available. Free.
2) Now he's back in Fresno to take care of his medical issues on his own dime. Where? A county hospital?
3) Despite this medical condition that has caused him to leave an ND scholarship on the table, he'll be ready to work out in a few weeks.

How can anyone buy this?"

Another:

"I realize that there are some on the 4 HL that do not want to believe this for whatever reason, but Tee basically had an exit strategy from Day # 1: Don't go to class and fail all your courses, thus he could get a fresh start somewhere where he really wanted to be after a few months at Notre Dame. Obviously, his strategy worked to a "Tee."

I am not getting in the room of knotty heads, but I cannot buy it. IF he had a medical issue that precluded him from playing, he gets 4 years at ND free. All he has to do to go anywhere he wants is to not show up for classes. If he has already begun and changes his mind because of his cousin, he is locked in for the semester, and has to set out a year anyway. He doesn't have to fail to get out after a semester (see Jordan Prestwood), all he has to do is leave after his first semester. Any way you look at it it is just as likely to cost him a year.

No one knows anything, can prove anything or understands anything.


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[TDHeysus]

......class ......he hardly ever showed up and ....did not turn in an assignments at all...

sounds like exactly what Lane Kiffin is looking for...

 

[NYMIKE6]

So then the question becomes if indeed they used the medical reason to bail on ND, and in fact he did nothing in classes, How many of you still wish him well? I mean i don't wish him harm but i hope his path becomes longer and harder because the way this situation was handled was not the "RIGHT" way.... If this plan was hatched by his parents they should be disgusted in themselves.... What happened to parents supporting difficult trying times in their child's life? How else does one learn? Theres going to be some that feel bad because of his disability well i must say deaf people are usually not dumb also.... and this my friends is really dumb..... This whole situation smells of bad parenting and decision making on all things coming from that family....

I'd like to say i would retract my statements and like some say "eat crow" but the sad truth is we will never know the real answer because who would honestly admit that they ignored their academic responsibilities and used medical condition as an excuse to leave school?

 

[NYMIKE6]

Apologies to all the sensitive types that might take offense to what was posted above..... Fact is most in most peoples lives don't realize they're making mistakes until someone tells you how it is..... I hope young Tee is reading......