Brian Hamilton is a D-Bag

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I don't care about Hamilton much one way or the other...

But, how should he have reported on this? He makes it clear that it's a very tiny thing that won't probably result in anything that bad. It's not a big story, but it's a story.
 
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I think if you're a reporter and you feel you absolutely MUST address this, you should probably do so almost sheepishly, as if you're embarrassed to even have to do it but its a part of your job. I don't think he went out of his way to downplay the seriousness of what happened (at least not last night when he first "broke" it on twitter), which is almost required if you have any integrity and aren't just joyously muckraking.

His tone was that of a hall monitor reporting a kid for stopping at the water fountain when he was supposed to go directly back to class.
 
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Rhode Irish said:
I think if you're a reporter and you feel you absolutely MUST address this, you should probably do so almost sheepishly, as if you're embarrassed to even have to do it but its a part of your job. I don't think he went out of his way to downplay the seriousness of what happened (at least not last night when he first "broke" it on twitter), which is almost required if you have any integrity and aren't just joyously muckraking.

His tone was that of a hall monitor reporting a kid for stopping at the water fountain when he was supposed to go directly back to class.
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Exactly- Hamilton should be embarrassed to report this. This is not news (I love the officer Barbrady reference someone made). Maybe it's notable because it has to do with a local star recruit and our All-American TE, but it's hardly significant.
 
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I guess I don't read it in the same way that you guys did. I think he files a report, says it's probably a violation, but that it's minor and will have little/no ramifications. That's what the South Bend Tribune did as well.
 
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BGIF said:
Thanks, phork.

Strange, I looked for something on it under new posts, looked in the recruiting forum, did a IE Search on Eifert, and then on Recruiting Violation, and found nothing on it.

Shame on me for not looking under "Brian Hamilton is a D-Bag".
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I suppose so. I thought you just went in to threads for the pictures, I didn't think you could read.
 
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In all fairness when I started the thread it was titled "ND Violation!?!?" but was changed to the current title. "Brian Hamilton is a D-Bag"
 
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military_irish said:
In all fairness when I started the thread it was titled "ND Violation!?!?" but was changed to the current title. "Brian Hamilton is a D-Bag"
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I changed it b/c I didn't want people being startled by a non-(real)violation started by a true D-Bag (I use that word only for the douchiest of douches). Nothing against you or the title at all though bro...
 
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NDinL.A. said:
I changed it b/c I didn't want people being startled by a non-(real)violation started by a true D-Bag (I use that word only for the douchiest of douches). Nothing against you or the title at all though bro...
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Oh it didn't matter to me, I was just letting BGIF know that there was a thread about "violations" at one time. This title is much more fitting for the topic.
 
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NDinL.A. said:
I changed it b/c I didn't want people being startled by a non-(real)violation started by a true D-Bag (I use that word only for the douchiest of douches). Nothing against you or the title at all though bro...
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Changing the title was poor moderating, a true rarity for you. It is a real violation of NCAA regs although minor. It doesn't matter that it was intentional. Nonetheless it is a violation. And as Hamilton clearly noted ND's Brian Hardin acknowledged it was brought to the attention on the ND Compliance Office. It was also noted that it was a minor situation. Military Irish's original title was correct, particularly with the question mark.

The question of Hamilton's character was established in his handling of the St Mary's coed saga. That has nothing to do with this issue and it certainly doesn't change Eifert's tweet. The SBT also ran a story on Effert's tweet this am, as did others. It was news. What your title change engendered was hate posts worthy of an Alabama or USC board by fans trying to misdirect the real issue, a violation. Let's leave the hate for NDNation to spew.
 
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Changing the title was poor moderating, a true rarity for you. It is a real violation of NCAA regs although minor. It doesn't matter that it was intentional. Nonetheless it is a violation. And as Hamilton clearly noted ND's Brian Hardin acknowledged it was brought to the attention on the ND Compliance Office. It was also noted that it was a minor situation. Military Irish's original title was correct, particularly with the question mark.

The question of Hamilton's character was established in his handling of the St Mary's coed saga. That has nothing to do with this issue and it certainly doesn't change Eifert's tweet. The SBT also ran a story on Effert's tweet this am, as did others. It was news. What your title change engendered was hate posts worthy of an Alabama or USC board by fans trying to misdirect the real issue, a violation. Let's leave the hate for NDNation to spew.
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Never gotten all the hate for Hamilton.
He's a good journalist who in my opinion writes probably the smartest pieces on Notre Dame football of any print/broadcast media that regularly covers them (the better blogs, particularly One Foot Down, are in some ways superior, but really are a different beast).
I think Hansen at the SBT is good, if a little dull. And I like Keith Arnold, though it's worth noting that NBC is essentially a publicity arm of Notre Dame football. He's comprehensive, but rarely has a critical thing to say about anyone.
But Hamilton takes a big-picture approach, and has written a lot of insightful, incisive features on Notre Dame sports. Does he go a little overboard? Maybe once in awhile. But he's swinging for the fences. If I want stenography I'll just read UND.com.
Also, remember, he's writing for a big, general-interest daily where, frankly, the majority of readers don't see the world through blue-and-gold glasses. The ND message board crowd is not his primary concern.
 
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The only way he could be better is if he worked for BleacherReport.
 
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stlnd01 said:
Never gotten all the hate for Hamilton.
He's a good journalist who in my opinion writes probably the smartest pieces on Notre Dame football of any print/broadcast media that regularly covers them (the better blogs, particularly One Foot Down, are in some ways superior, but really are a different beast).
I think Hansen at the SBT is good, if a little dull. And I like Keith Arnold, though it's worth noting that NBC is essentially a publicity arm of Notre Dame football. He's comprehensive, but rarely has a critical thing to say about anyone.
But Hamilton takes a big-picture approach, and has written a lot of insightful, incisive features on Notre Dame sports. Does he go a little overboard? Maybe once in awhile. But he's swinging for the fences. If I want stenography I'll just read UND.com.
Also, remember, he's writing for a big, general-interest daily where, frankly, the majority of readers don't see the world through blue-and-gold glasses. The ND message board crowd is not his primary concern.
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Are you related to him by blood or through marriage?
 
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I've never understood the hate for any journalist or ESPN. If you don't like what they produce, then don't pay attention to it.
 
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TerryTate said:
Seeberg case in the Tribune?

Are you a freshman?
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I know some writers at the Tribune shamefully attacked the University in that case, and it upset me at the time. However, I only got upset because I lost sight of the fact that they wrote those articles to simply get more attention to the Tribune (and to a lesser extent, to advance their own careers). Not trying to offend anyone, but I have very little respect for the mainstream media because their job is driven by ratings, clicks, etc., with decreasing emphasis on responsibility and integrity. Maybe it's because I tend to care more about my opinion than that of others, but I truly couldn't care less about what some sports journalist has to say.

And TT...no, I'm not a freshman; I'm an ND graduate just like you.
 
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clashmore_mike said:
Are you related to him by blood or through marriage?
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Ha. Neither. But in addition to being an ND alum, I've been a professional journalist for a decade, so I may see these things from a slightly different perspective than many around here.
IMO, Hamilton's not perfect, but by and large he's good at his job. His job is not to tell us what we want to hear, but to write interesting true stories about Notre Dame football. That he does.
 
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stlnd01 said:
The ND message board crowd is not his primary concern.
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Actually yes, because we are a large percentage of his readers... Who cares about ND football enough to go online and read ND articles, people who visit ND websites...
 
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these kids really need to give up their twitter accounts...what good can come from broadcasting to the world the randowm thoughts of teenagers?
its only a matter of time (not if but when) before another yuri like twittergate scandal erupts in the college sports world. i light a candle it doesnt involve us at ND. opps it just did. (ps tee shepherd tweeting is i gurantee going to get him in trouble at some point----have you seen his? )

enough of the twitter BS ND football players
 
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ND NYC said:
these kids really need to give up their twitter accounts...what good can come from broadcasting to the world the randowm thoughts of teenagers?
its only a matter of time (not if but when) before another yuri like twittergate scandal erupts in the college sports world. i light a candle it doesnt involve us at ND. opps it just did. (ps tee shepherd tweeting is i gurantee going to get him in trouble at some point----have you seen his? )

enough of the twitter BS ND football players
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this post screams "get off my lawn!"
 
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