'11 CA RB Amir Carlisle (Notre Dame Football Player)

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Eric Hansen on SBEAT just mentioned that USC RB Transfer Amir Carlisle will try to waiver the NCAA and play for #NotreDame in '12

This has been known for a while now. Thanks for the update bro.
 
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I give it a 1% chance, but I think we need some prayer pictures nevertheless.
 

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Even if he for some reason wins, he should be "redshirted" because we don't need him this year. We have a speed (Riddick/GAIII) and balenced back already (wood)

Whereas next year we best/worst case scenario is Wood is good enough this year to go Pro and then we again have a speed (Carisle) and balenced (GAIII will thicken out like wood did) back
 

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Even if he for some reason wins, he should be "redshirted" because we don't need him this year. We have a speed (Riddick/GAIII) and balenced back already (wood)

Whereas next year we best/worst case scenario is Wood is good enough this year to go Pro and then we again have a speed (Carisle) and balenced (GAIII will thicken out like wood did) back

Ummm... yes we do.
 

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For some reason I think if he is granted to play he won't redshirt. No point going through the process to sit him.
 

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Even if he for some reason wins, he should be "redshirted" because we don't need him this year. We have a speed (Riddick/GAIII) and balenced back already (wood)

Whereas next year we best/worst case scenario is Wood is good enough this year to go Pro and then we again have a speed (Carisle) and balenced (GAIII will thicken out like wood did) back

You serious, Clark?
 

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ND feels good he might get cleared. I am not holding my breath but its a better chance than you think Buster.

I have to think this is true. I don't think the school would waste it's time if they didn't think they have a good chance.
 
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Even if he for some reason wins, he should be "redshirted" because we don't need him this year. We have a speed (Riddick/GAIII) and balenced back already (wood)

Whereas next year we best/worst case scenario is Wood is good enough this year to go Pro and then we again have a speed (Carisle) and balenced (GAIII will thicken out like wood did) back

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!! If Amir gets cleared Atkinson to WR. Cant believe you just said we got need Amir. **** cray

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I claim ignorance here as I have no idea how he could be cleared to play this year. Too many rules...
 

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It would seem to me they wouldn't allow this based on whats out there.

...unless there is more to this. Only thing I can think of is...So maybe Carlisle saw something improper at SC, and, in light of the culture and current sanctions, felt he could not be part of it. In that case if he were a whistle blower of sorts...NCAA would be looking at a nasty precedent if they DIDN'T let him transfer and play.

Not at all saying thats what is going on...just thinking out loud trying to understand why they think he has a chance to do this...
 

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Even if he for some reason wins, he should be "redshirted" because we don't need him this year. We have a speed (Riddick/GAIII) and balenced back already (wood)

Whereas next year we best/worst case scenario is Wood is good enough this year to go Pro and then we again have a speed (Carisle) and balenced (GAIII will thicken out like wood did) back

2 questions:

1) What are you smoking?

2) Do you have anymore? NDOM wants to know.
 

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It would seem to me they wouldn't allow this based on whats out there.

...unless there is more to this. Only thing I can think of is...So maybe Carlisle saw something improper at SC, and, in light of the culture and current sanctions, felt he could not be part of it. In that case if he were a whistle blower of sorts...NCAA would be looking at a nasty precedent if they DIDN'T let him transfer and play.

Not at all saying thats what is going on...just thinking out loud trying to understand why they think he has a chance to do this...

I agree that there must be something we don't know. Amir wants to follow his family to Indiana, so USC releases him to a competitor AND the NCAA waives the one-year penalty?? It just doesn't add up. Kids play football across the country from their family all the time. Don't see how that justifies making an exception. Must be more to the story.
 

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For everyone acting like I'm crazy if in the .001 chance he gets cleared lets say he plays RB then Atkinson doesn't play or gets pushed to slot where then atkinson still doesn't play or davonte doesn't get to play. Team is better off having him preserve a year
 
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For everyone acting like I'm crazy if in the .001 chance he gets cleared lets say he plays RB then Atkinson doesn't play or gets pushed to slot where then atkinson still doesn't play or davonte doesn't get to play. Team is better off having him preserve a year

The best guys we have need to be on the field. If Amir can bring more to the table then we should want him out there.
 

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For everyone acting like I'm crazy if in the .001 chance he gets cleared lets say he plays RB then Atkinson doesn't play or gets pushed to slot where then atkinson still doesn't play or davonte doesn't get to play. Team is better off having him preserve a year

That is a great problem to have, if it is a problem.
 

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For everyone acting like I'm crazy if in the .001 chance he gets cleared lets say he plays RB then Atkinson doesn't play or gets pushed to slot where then atkinson still doesn't play or davonte doesn't get to play. Team is better off having him preserve a year

I see the point -- I tried to make this point a few pages back -- but as I think Wooly pointed out to me Carlisle may be better than anyone else we have. Riddick was underwhelming last year, and Atkinson hasn't shown us anything except as a KR. We probably want Carlisle on the field right away; he could be a real difference-maker next year.
 

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For everyone acting like I'm crazy if in the .001 chance he gets cleared lets say he plays RB then Atkinson doesn't play or gets pushed to slot where then atkinson still doesn't play or davonte doesn't get to play. Team is better off having him preserve a year

I get what you are saying. We have to field the best possible chance of winning. Some guys get lost in the shuffle at times. It would be nice if everyone sees a lot of playtime.
 

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For everyone acting like I'm crazy if in the .001 chance he gets cleared lets say he plays RB then Atkinson doesn't play or gets pushed to slot where then atkinson still doesn't play or davonte doesn't get to play. Team is better off having him preserve a year

What?

You want the best guys on the field, not which guy had the higher accolades coming out of HS. If Atkinson or Neal PASSES Carlisle, then fine, they should play. But saying that Carlisle should redshirt so that we can play a different two players this year is ridiculous.
 
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For everyone acting like I'm crazy if in the .001 chance he gets cleared lets say he plays RB then Atkinson doesn't play or gets pushed to slot where then atkinson still doesn't play or davonte doesn't get to play. Team is better off having him preserve a year

Why wait? We need to win now. Atkinson will play on the outside. Toma and Neal and Farley will be just fine in the slot.
 

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What?

You want the best guys on the field, not which guy had the higher accolades coming out of HS. If Atkinson or Neal PASSES Carlisle, then fine, they should play. But saying that Carlisle should redshirt so that we can play a different two players this year is ridiculous.

^This
 

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Obviously if Carlisle can out perform Neal, Farley, Atkinson etc by all means heshould play but I don't think that will be the case, new team plus coming off injury? and barely played last year

And terrytate carlisle was rated higher than Atkinson out of high school
 
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Obviously if Carlisle can out perform Neal, Farley, Atkinson etc by all means heshould play but I don't think that will be the case, new team plus coming off injury? and barely played last year

And terrytate carlisle was rated higher than Atkinson out of high school

Amir is strictly a running back he will not play in the slot.
 

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Obviously if Carlisle can out perform Neal, Farley, Atkinson etc by all means heshould play but I don't think that will be the case, new team plus coming off injury? and barely played last year

And terrytate carlisle was rated higher than Atkinson out of high school

#1 Injury was not serious
#2 Carlisle played in 8 games as a freshman at USC
#3 The only person that would be competing for PT would be Atkinson. Farley and Neal are WRs/CBs.
 

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Obviously if Carlisle can out perform Neal, Farley, Atkinson etc by all means heshould play but I don't think that will be the case, new team plus coming off injury? and barely played last year

And terrytate carlisle was rated higher than Atkinson out of high school

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I think you're underestimating the talent and potential of Carlisle. He was arguably USC's best option at RB as a freshman.
 

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Why wait? We need to win now. Atkinson will play on the outside. Toma and Neal and Farley will be just fine in the slot.

I'd be really excited about a successful move to WR by Atkinson. Have you heard anything to that effect, or just guessing?
 
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