'12 CA DT/DE Arik Armstead (Oregon Verbal)

[NDdomer2]

We don't know what the hell they are thinking about. They could be planning some sort of announcement. They got home in the evening. Have to think with unpacking, dinner, and sitting down and talking, plus jet lag they were pretty pooped. Let the kids sleep on their thoughts and meet again in the morning. IT is only 8:30 in Cali. Arik could still be sleeping for Pete's sake. For those who are saying they expect a decision before this when did you think they were going to make it in all of that? JSapp said 48 hours for a reason.

 

[clashmore_mike]

The link also says Auburn's 247 guys think Notre Dame leads right now.

 

[NDdomer2]

I would also like to add this.

Notre Dame Football: Too early to gauge merit of early enrollment - southbendtribune.com

Bishop said his office did not need to consider a policy shift to add the transfers, especially because he and his staff had become so familiar with the two players during the recruiting process in the last cycle.

“Because of the particulars in both cases, it ended up not rising to a level where we would have to consider what the policy was,” Bishop said. “If these had been students we’ve never met or seen information on, then there would be a question of how much time we need to evaluate and make the right decision?”

The university does not have that familiarity with Armond.

 

[ThePiombino]

The fact is, as much as we know, we know nothing. I think it's too soon to panic OR celebrate. This is the single biggest decision of Arik's life. I'm sure we'll find out sooner than later. I have a hard time believing he won't be EEing somewhere.

 

[koonja]

The link also says Auburn's 247 guys think Notre Dame leads right now.

Does it say how long it'd take to get clearance from that SEC? As of last night Armond had still not filed appeal.

 

[aubeirish]

Guys, the word was that ND just got Armond's transcript this weekend. That being said, it takes some time for the admission to clear his acceptance. This could be the reason the decision hasn't come yet. We'll see.

 

[TouchdownStevus]

I can't feel good about our chances when the current update is still 100% undecided.. That means they talked about this and still currently have no clue...Im feeling pessimistic but this has the feeling off a huge letdown to me...I wouldn't expect them to rush into a decision but if it's still 100% undecided then I don't feel good about this

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

I don't know. I get the feeling the family made their choice last night and are just waiting a few days to make sure they are comfortable with it.
Maybe doing a little shopping to get Arik stuff he'll need on campus.
I know it's Sacramento but the weather channel is calling for highs of 50 plus all week long.
Can't be that easy to find a winter coat in CA.
Also they stated they would need to be on campus at the latest on the 24th.

 

[D-BOE34]

I can see it being hard to wait over in Indiana and what not. Time is a lot latter. Lucky for me, I am in Cali and get to wake up around the same times as him. So the wait is not so bad over here. Just hope his decision comes before I leave so I don't get stuck two hours later like most of you!

 

[IrishJayhawk]

No use trying to guess what they're thinking or read tea leaves. I know it can be fun, but the lack of an update could be great...or it could be bad.

Only the Armsteads know...as it should be.

 

[irishfanjho15]

I think the issue here is that most people on this site can only be optimistic for 24 hours (or less) then they have to start posting reasons why things are going to fall apart. But twenty plus years of mediocrity and heartbreak will do that to you.

 

[ThePiombino]

I think the issue here is that most people on this site can only be optimistic for 24 hours (or less) then they have to start posting reasons why things are going to fall apart. But twenty plus years of mediocrity and heartbreak will do that to you.

I lawled

 

[SoJerseyIrish]

~ Coach Chizik is gonna try to put on a little magic act here. He's gonna try a little misdirection. He'll astound you with stories of SEC titles and dazzle you with official-sounding terms like National Championships. He might even try to cut into a few other teams for you. He'll have no evidence, mind you, none . . . but it will be entertaining.~

Love it....nicely done!

 

[connor_in]

Guys, the word was that ND just got Armond's transcript this weekend. That being said, it takes some time for the admission to clear his acceptance. This could be the reason the decision hasn't come yet. We'll see.

Agreed.

As stated before, Armond would be our first graduate transfer so new policy/procedure to make sure you get things right. Also, Prestwood and Carlisle had already been checked out by admissions, where Armond wasn't (thx to poster above).

So I think if we are working on paperwork, Auburn not filing for a rule appeal as of yet sounds like it in our favor.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

The guy above just quoted a source from Notre Dame. Armond is Key. IF ND DIDN'T GET HIS TRANSCRIPTS UNTIL THIS WEEKEND IT IS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE. IF I HAD A USC GRAD, I WOULD GO OVER EVERYTHING CAREFULLY.

You all remember the story about the ND fan that says something incredibly derogatory in a bar and is dared by three ex-USC football players to repeat it and he declines because he doesn't want to have to explain it twice?

 

[clashmore_mike]

Does it say how long it'd take to get clearance from that SEC? As of last night Armond had still not filed appeal.

No, just that as of now he hasn't filed. Only that Gene said they could "get around it." Hopefully that is a red flag to the family as I think they and Guss aren't trying to get around anything.

 

[ThePiombino]

No, just that as of now he hasn't filed. Only that Gene said they could "get around it." Hopefully that is a red flag to the family as I think they and Guss aren't trying to get around anything.

I think JSapp reported that an appeal could take up to a couple of weeks.

 

[clashmore_mike]

I think JSapp reported that an appeal could take up to a couple of weeks.

Said it could take a day or two up to a couple weeks. But yes. I guess that would depend on how serious the SEC wants to take their transfer rule. If the first person to appeal it can "get around it" in a day or two, the conference is going to look foolish.

 

[koonja]

I heard 'days to weeks' from the Bryan Mathews of Auburn247.

 

[NDinL.A.]

If they were coming to ND IMO they would have already made that choice.

I can't feel good about our chances when the current update is still 100% undecided.. That means they talked about this and still currently have no clue...Im feeling pessimistic but this has the feeling off a huge letdown to me...I wouldn't expect them to rush into a decision but if it's still 100% undecided then I don't feel good about this

They're taking their time because they want to be sure and apparently they need some things to be worked out on ND's end. Why does this bode better for Auburn than ND???

Also, where does it say that they have no clue where they want to go? Please show me a quote where it says they have no clue. No, what they say is that they are still in decision mode, which is fine (for mow of course). It's friggin' 8:30 on the west coast and you're expecting an announcement? You say you don't expect them to rush but then in the next breath you're saying it's not good for us. Why not? Because they are trying to make an informed decision? If anything, that sounds better for us.

Now, if this were to drag into Friday and the weekend, then I'd feel you. But for it being only Wedn morning, sorry, I just can't buy this. Fortunately, many people who follow recruiting closely and who have sources all over the place feel differently than you guys...

 

[Irish Fam]

I think JSapp reported that an appeal could take up to a couple of weeks.

This. He said anywhere from a few days to a couple weeks.

 

[ACamp1900]

They're taking their time because they want to be sure and apparently they need some things to be worked out on ND's end. Why does this bode better for Auburn than ND???

Also, where does it say that they have no clue where they want to go? Please show me a quote where it says they have no clue. No, what they say is that they are still in decision mode, which is fine (for mow of course). It's friggin' 8:30 on the west coast and you're expecting an announcement? You say you don't expect them to rush but then in the next breath you're saying it's not good for us. Why not? Because they are trying to make an informed decision? If anything, that sounds better for us.

Now, if this were to drag into Friday and the weekend, then I'd feel you. But for it being only Wedn morning, sorry, I just can't buy this. Fortunately, many people who follow recruiting closely and who have sources all over the place feel differently than you guys...

damnit ND... this is a recruiting thread...

no need for logic or reason.

 

[Domina Nostra]

100% undecided is precisely the same as 99% decided. Just like 99% committed means uncommitted. Someone could be leaning one way or the other and still be 100% undecided.

It seems to me that while things take time to go through admissions, there is a difference between admitting a new student and a transfer.

New students you have to ask yourself if they have minimum credentials to get in.

There really is no need to do that if a kid has done 3 or 4 years of college at USC. It seems like the only question would be how many credits transfer. That issue could get settled after the kid started classes. "Sorry we only allow X hours of credits from this department to count toward graduation."

 

[Rhode Irish]

I would also like to add this.

Notre Dame Football: Too early to gauge merit of early enrollment - southbendtribune.com



The university does not have that familiarity with Armond.

Worth noting that, from the university's perspective, Armond is not a "transfer", he would be enrolling in grad school. Your point may hold, but the situations aren't totally parallel.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Armond has graduated from USC; so he's applying to ND as a graduate student. I'd imagine the process for deciding whether Armond qualifies for a grad program is much faster and simpler than trying to work out a transfer.

 

[clashmore_mike]

Worth noting that, from the university's perspective, Armond is not a "transfer", he would be enrolling in grad school. Your point may hold, but the situations aren't totally parallel.

Yeah, was just going to say, transferring as an undergrad is much different as "transferring" as a grad student. I would assume that students from other universities choosing ND for grad school is reasonably common, right? Armond is really only transferring football teams. He is done with his undergrad degree at Southern Cal.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Yeah, was just going to say, transferring as an undergrad is much different as "transferring" as a grad student. I would assume that students from other universities choosing ND for grad school is reasonably common, right? Armond is really only transferring football teams. He is done with his undergrad degree at Southern Cal.

Good point, I forgot he had graduated. Hopefully, this may make it even easier. A graduate program likely has a ton of flexibility about who it lets in- it sets its own rules. I doubt the NCAA is spending a lot of time making sure that graduate programs are properly screening kids with college degrees that the NCAA already stands behind.

There will be a process, but, I would think, fewer bright lines that cannot be bent or crossed.

 

[connor_in]

Yeah, was just going to say, transferring as an undergrad is much different as "transferring" as a grad student. I would assume that students from other universities choosing ND for grad school is reasonably common, right? Armond is really only transferring football teams. He is done with his undergrad degree at Southern Cal.

That being said...isn't it even harder to get into ND grad school than ND undergrad?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

That being said...isn't it even harder to get into ND grad school than ND undergrad?

It's different for every program.

 

[jimmymac]

It's different for every program.

In general, undergrad is harder to get into. ND really stresses undergrad education and our graduate programs are kind of lackluster.