Kelly receives contract extension through 2016

[bert2834]

Well, I'm about to go mute on a moot point, but our D has plenty of studs that Weis recruited... Louis Nix, Manti, and Hayseed all come to mind. Even guys like Brian Smith and Anthony McDonald were considered studs when Weis recruited them. We struck out completely one year on D tackles and that, along with the very thing base Weis had to start with, was the second biggest problem. The biggest, of course, was that he never managed to establish a defensive identity for the program. The coordinator shuffle, in retrospect, was hugely misguided. The team would've been better off finding an average/above average d coordinator and sticking with one vision than switching and trying to find the perfect scheme/coordinator (see: Tenuta.) It is only in retrospect that this seems obvious though; I seem to recall a general consensus that the Tenuta hire was a good to great move.

I will say this for Kelly: he seems to have a more developed vision for the program than Weis ever did. Weis had great plans for his offense, but never set a course for the rest of the team. The question with Kelly is if he can bring it all together or not. So far, there's definitely signs of progress, but only very rarely has ND looked like the team Brian Kelly envisions (see the Air Force game for a good example of "the goal".) The puzzle doesn't need to be finished next year, but hopefully it will start becoming clearer how it's going to turn out: who are the key pieces, how will they function, etc, etc, etc...

Committed to ND AFTER Weis was fired.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

Do some of you ever get tired of being whiny girls? Brian Kelly deserves his job, if you cant see the obvious improvements in the team, then you are blind. Yes, they have kinks to work out but I know 2012 is the year for ND. All these coaching suggestions crack me up as well. He's the coach. Let him do his job and quit being whine bags about it. I also hope the haters choke on NDs success in the coming season.

 

[Riddickulous]

Much ado about nothing. If he doesn't figure out the QB situation next year.... he gone

BTW... I hope he figures it out, and is here for 20 years...

Laughable.

And Kelly will never last 20 years here, even with a national title under his belt. It simply doesn't happen here. I'd be surprised if he lasted longer than 12. The job is simply too stressful. Leahy (4 titles) and Parseghian (2 titles) couldn't handle it and retired early, at ages 45 and 51, respectively.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I believe that all of us were shocked [let alone really saddened] when Ara began telling us that he couldn't keep up with the demands of the job, and was going to retire. [people really following ND sociology probably knew all about this, but we "distant" fans just were devastated]. No young persons seem to care, apparently, but this sort of history should make a difference to the tone of one's carping about every imagined failure. Each one of us can contribute to the high quality of life of the immensely stressed Notre Dame coach, or to his misery. And don't think that the cumulative effect of impatient and irrational screaming and whining is irrelevant. It is the cumulative howl which ultimately gets to people like the Notre Dame administration, AD, and the staff itself. [and their families].

Everyone should ask themselves: do I want to contribute to the premature loss of another fine coach like "they" did with Ara or Dan Devine?? Sure those were complex situations, but not enough love from the fanbase can break the back. I want Brian Kelly not only to succeed but to enjoy himself, and his family to enjoy themselves, while he is doing it. I not only don't want a heart condition, but I don't even want an early retirement. Of course such thinking requires that we give a damm about something other than ourselves at some blink of time --- a quality seemingly becoming rarer as the century blunders on.

God bless you, Coach. I know that you're working like three persons trying to do everything that you can. I want to see you succeed. And I want to see you genuinely smile, rather than just heave a sigh of relief.

 

[connor_in]

Just a minor detail, mute point would be silent, while what this thread screams for is a moot point. Which is what is begged when discussing Charlie in a Brian Kelly thread . . .

MOOT POINT:
Hound dogs gots long ears


Now, back to the thread...

 

[irishff1014]

I like the fact they agreed on 2 more years. Shows thats the university has trust in him. But they didn't go over board like they did with Weis. I know we all think the play calling is questionable in games but no doubt i really like knowing that Brian Kelly is our coach. He has made improvements to this team and his staff is recruiting their a$$ off.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I like the fact they agreed on 2 more years. Shows thats the university has trust in him. But they didn't go over board like they did with Weis. I know we all think the play calling is questionable in games but no doubt i really like knowing that Brian Kelly is our coach. He has made improvements to this team and his staff is recruiting their a$$ off.

Doth mine eyes deceive me? Optimism from irishff1014!?

 

[IrishinSyria]

Committed to ND AFTER Weis was fired.

Only as a formality. He knew where he was going, just wanted to give the new coach an early boost.

 

[connor_in]

Doth mine eyes deceive me? Optimism from irishff1014!?

Cue dramatic squirrel gif!

 

[BobD]

I'm surprised that there have been so many comments about Weis, in this thread about Kelly getting a contract extention. We should be celebrating!

I wasn't a member here at IE while Weis was the head coach but I did live in Indiana at the time and was around a lot of fellow Notre Dame fans. The general consensus on Charlie was he was a great guy, but thought of as kind of a bumbling oaf that was in over his head. The limited success Notre Dame had seemed to be in spite of him, not because of him. IMO he is at his maximum potential coaching an offense, he's not a HC, at least not for a large program like Notre Dame.

One of the most important things a true leader does is instill confidence. I think BK does that, do any of you feel like CW ever did?

I don't want to seem like I'm totally bagging on CW because I really do think he's a great guy, it's just that not everyone is meant to be Chief, some are meant to be Leutenants and thats where I feel Charlie fits best.

Lets celebrate Notre Dames promising future with Brian Kelly at the helm of our FB team!

 

[UPMich_NDfan]

I've kinda sifted thru the comments and this point may or may not have been made...but these days is a contract extension anything more than a stamp of approval for RIGHT now, and some positive PR for the coach?! At any point if ND wants Kelly out, he's out...that contract means nothing in terms of dollars and cents. So really this says ND approves of Kelly at the moment and the rest is 'tba'

 

[returnofthemack]

Laughable.

And Kelly will never last 20 years here, even with a national title under his belt. It simply doesn't happen here. I'd be surprised if he lasted longer than 12. The job is simply too stressful. Leahy (4 titles) and Parseghian (2 titles) couldn't handle it and retired early, at ages 45 and 51, respectively.

Ara retired due to pressure, but Leahy was forced out because Hesburgh disliked that ND was becoming a football factory. You can read about it in Jim Dent's book about Ara - I can't remember the title. It has nothing to do with your valid point, I just wanted to point that out. Leahy could have potentially won ten more championships, but he wasn't doing it very ethically.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Do some of you ever get tired of being whiny girls? Brian Kelly deserves his job, if you cant see the obvious improvements in the team, then you are blind. Yes, they have kinks to work out but I know 2012 is the year for ND. All these coaching suggestions crack me up as well. He's the coach. Let him do his job and quit being whine bags about it. I also hope the haters choke on NDs success in the coming season.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogtrotter07
Just a minor detail, mute point would be silent, while what this thread screams for is a moot point. Which is what is begged when discussing Charlie in a Brian Kelly thread . . .

MOOT POINT:
Hound dogs gots long ears


Now, back to the thread...

And you are a close second; nice to meet you Connor me'boy-o!

 

[tko]

Do some of you ever get tired of being whiny girls? Brian Kelly deserves his job, if you cant see the obvious improvements in the team, then you are blind. Yes, they have kinks to work out but I know 2012 is the year for ND. All these coaching suggestions crack me up as well. He's the coach. Let him do his job and quit being whine bags about it. I also hope the haters choke on NDs success in the coming season.

you are so sassy when you dye your hair!

 

[OCIrish]

I know I'm n the minority, but 16-10 to me isn't worth an extension.....our 3 biggest rivals, his recordc 1-5. Yes, he's beating teams he's supposed to, and did it in grand fashion a couple of times. I'm just not sure if he's done enough at this point to warrant the extension. Should've waited till after next year, IMO.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Much ado about nothing. If he doesn't figure out the QB situation next year.... he gone

BTW... I hope he figures it out, and is here for 20 years...

Most idiotic post of the thread........

 

[ND_HAS_RISEN]

The most noticeable factor that I see with BK versus any other coach post-Holtz is laying the FOUNDATION.

I have questions sometimes on the coaching and even some of the decision making, but you simply cannot ignore that the groundwork he has done to the foundation of the program has been tremendous. It’s no wonder why he has been successful everywhere he's gone. Having a solid base and foundation will easily mask any deficiencies as a coach (I’m not calling him out either, so CHILLAX).

If he can continue to build on the foundation and get the program into a reloading phase every year (like the rest of the good programs) then I have very high hopes for ND's return to greatness. There doesn't seem to be a sense of complacency with BK nor his staff that seem prevalent the last 18+ years..

If BK continues at this pace and we are STILL struggling in years 4-5, then I may feel a bit different, but right now I have no problem with the move ( like my opinion really matters anyways... )

 

[kmoose]

Harbaugh went 9-15 in his first two years. If they had fired him, where would Stanford be right now?

In Palo Alto?

 

[tko]

will Jack pull the extension when Rees starts in Dublin?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish YJ
Much ado about nothing. If he doesn't figure out the QB situation next year.... he gone

BTW... I hope he figures it out, and is here for 20 years...

Most idiotic post of the thread........

That is an incredibly bold statement!

 

[ulukinatme]

I like the extension only because I don't believe theres another coach out there right now thats a better fit for the program. If we can't get it done with Kelly, I don't believe we can get it done. We also need some continuity, enough with the coaching carousel. Some coaches get it done in the first few years, but those teams often had more recent success and easier locations to recruit to. It's tough bringing people to northern Indiana for college when options like California and the south-east are available.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

Bump--
this is now a very funny thread.

 

[JughedJones]

indeed.

I got really confused reading the first few comments till I realized what was going on.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

indeed.

I got really confused reading the first few comments till I realized what was going on.

I know! Thought this was a new thread, and was reading through it thinking, "are these people on f..king crazy pills?"

 

[KyfightingIrish36]

Did BK get more control of the academics in regards to potential recruits? Or would that just be something that wouldn't be included in the contract?

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

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[Rudy89]

Im glad I wasnt the only one who read this thread thinking people were batshit crazy that they were mad he got an extension rather than going to philly....i need to read post dates.

 

[ThePiombino]

indeed.

I got really confused reading the first few comments till I realized what was going on.

Samesies

 

[irishfanjho15]

Why do people think the QB situation is not going to be settled?

I mean, isn't the general consensus that it will be Golson or Gunner? I think we can win all but one game on the next year's regular season schedule with Golson for sure. Gunner would be much like 2012 Golson.

 

[ThePiombino]

Why do people think the QB situation is not going to be settled?

I mean, isn't the general consensus that it will be Golson or Gunner? I think we can win all but one game on the next year's regular season schedule with Golson for sure. Gunner would be much like 2012 Golson.

What game do you see Golson not being able to win?