How to fix College Football?

[notredomer23]

Saw they got rid of the 25 scholarship limit and just have to be within the 85

 

[zelezo vlk]

Wasn’t that just the case until about 5 years ago?


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[Irish#1]

Saw they got rid of the 25 scholarship limit and just have to be within the 85

Should make recruiting a little easier for teams, but you could see kids with offers suddenly being tossed out the window like a McDonalds sack with empty wrappers and a couple of fries.

 

[phork]

In regards to scholarship limits, does NIL create an effective path around that by paying players and avoiding scholarships?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Saban put Jimbo on blast last night saying A&M paid for their entire 2022 recruiting class. He said it in public. And I love it.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Saban's a full-blown hypocrite. Perhaps no one remembers a few years ago when the Alabama scholarship offer featured a picture of the NFL checks of their players. To say that wasn't symbolic of what playing for Saban was all about is naive. That school and the other SEC powers have organized under-the-radar family pay-out methods and have had for years. I've told personal knowledge stories of the Georgia university president about refusing to be involved with unilateral disarmament regarding retaining players, and the infamous recruiter "Black Jesus" with the Bible and the paper sack of money, and all stories go back to SEC, Miami, FSU, as the seed grounds. Doubtless the Oklahomas et al are equally nuclearly armed now, but on those schools the NCAA looks away as far as any meaningful punishments. ... no love for Fisher, but less for Saban. A&M in all this ...

Manziel is such an egotistic loose cannon that I wonder if he'd talk about TA&M (and others) about recruitment incentives like Sua Craven has. Perhaps his family was too well-to-do already.

 

[Rogue219]

I think Saban knows what he's doing. It's typical of his pattern. He pisses and moans, adjusts, then keeps beating everyone. Now he's got Jimbo all fired up and thinking about him. Jimbo hired DJ Durkin as his DC, so he may want to watch what he says too.

Meanwhile, everyone else is out recruiting while these two goofs have their pillow fight. Solid.

 

[Armyirish47]

Oh boy......

 

[Dale]

 

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[Dale]

 

[NorthDakota]

There is not a bowl season to save. I get that media types are desperate to keep it for programming reasons. But with playoffs as a perfectly reasonable goal for teams to shoot for, idk what meaning bowls have.

If some of the G5 schools want to play some fun exhibitions and stuff, by all means...go ahead.

 

[ACamp1900]

There absolutely are maybe a few non playoff bowls with history that should continue,… unless they get adopted as playoff games moving forward, which is stupid imo but this playoff shit always has been,… but the pop tarts bowl or the gronk bowl or the charmin wipe my ass bowl? Bye

 

[stlnd01]

There absolutely are maybe a few non playoff bowls with history that should continue,… unless they get adopted as playoff games moving forward, which is stupid imo by this playoff always has been,… but the pop tarts bowl or the gronk bowl or the charmin wipe my ass bowl? Bye

Fun fact: The bowl currently known as the Pop-Tarts Bowl has had 10 different names in its existence, which only began in 1990.

The non-CFP bowls are toast. And it's fine. Too bad for ESPN and their holiday sports inventory, but they had a big hand in creating this system.

 

[ACamp1900]

Liberty Bowl
Holiday Bowl
Citrus Bowl
Sun Bowl

There’s some bowls with enough history to rework as nice consolation bowls for top 25 (or just outside) teams that don’t make the playoffs,… maybe I’m forgetting 1 or 2 but yeah,… dump all the rest. Thoughts?

 

[NDRock]

Fun fact: The bowl currently known as the Pop-Tarts Bowl has had 10 different names in its existence, which only began in 1990.

The non-CFP bowls are toast. And it's fine. Too bad for ESPN and their holiday sports inventory, but they had a big hand in creating this system.

They're just going to replace the bowls with a 24 team playoff.

 

[ACamp1900]

They're just going to replace the bowls with a 24 team playoff.

Such a great idea,…………. Anyway if they do then I assume those bowls are included anyway… but this whole thing is beyond stupid imo

 

[ulukinatme]

Fun fact: The bowl currently known as the Pop-Tarts Bowl has had 10 different names in its existence, which only began in 1990.

The non-CFP bowls are toast. And it's fine. Too bad for ESPN and their holiday sports inventory, but they had a big hand in creating this system.

 

[NDRock]

Such a great idea,…………. Anyway if they do then I assume those bowls are included anyway… but this whole thing is beyond stupid imo

I was for a 12 team playoff but should have realized they’d fuck it up and go to 24. You were right. I actually think 12 is really good as it has kept the excitement of the regular (we were invested until the end). 24 seams like it will be like most pro sports where the playoff is basically a separate season.

 

[irishandy]

I am for a 16 team playoff team and make it the same model as the NCAA basketball tournament. No first round buys, no buy-in teams, and only 1 show for the team seeding.

 

[ACamp1900]

It’ll never happen but go back to pre bcs bowls, and regional conferences,… add a game or two to the regular season, have a schedule maker oversee all of it, so there’s no massive schedule discrepancies,… then play the bowls as before. Nine years out of ten there’s a clear champion at the end, if there’s ever a split poll or the polls are within a predefined margin then those two teams meet for a plus one. It saves the bowls(makes them all must see tv again), save college football’s uniqueness, saves regionality and saves intensity of the regular season. It’ll never happen I know but that’s how you ‘save cfb’

 

[NorthDakota]

Playoffs going to a bye week between quarterfinals and semifinals and playing the national championship on Jan 25 is not good. They need to be compressing the schedule, not dragging it out. The season should be done the first week of January.

 

[irishff1014]

Playoffs going to a bye week between quarterfinals and semifinals and playing the national championship on Jan 25 is not good. They need to be compressing the schedule, not dragging it out. The season should be done the first week of January.

They could screw up a wet dream.

 

[Dale]

 

[Dale]

The group includes former Alabama coach Nick Saban, former Florida star Tim Tebow and Texas Tech booster Cody Campbell.

…the power conference commissioners – the Big Ten’s Tony Petitti, the SEC’s Greg Sankey, the Big 12’s Brett Yormark and the ACC’s Jim Phillips – are all set to receive invitations. The list of invitees also includes former Florida and Ohio State coach Urban Meyer, Notre Dame athletics director Pete Bevacqua and Tennessee chancellor Donde Plowman.

Bevacqua’s predecessor, Jack Swarbrick, was also invited, along with at least one athletics director from each Power Four conference. ADs from Wake Forest, Indiana, Iowa State and Oklahoma are part of the group.

Other prominent figures from outside college sports were also invited, according to Dellenger. Golf legend Tiger Woods, two-time U.S. Open champion golfer Bryson DeChambeau, NBA commissioner Adam Silver and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice also received invitations to the roundtable. Trump is expected to serve as chair alongside Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and New York Yankees president Randy Levine as vice chairs.

 

[Huntr]

180 slides in my deck, "How to put the toothpaste back in the tube"

 

[Old Man Mike]

If POTUS stays out of it (and DeSantis etc), and a decent chair installed (Silver?), and some of the Pop Culture people like Tiger, Tebow, the golfers thanked-but-no-thanked, then the rest of that group might produce a useful monograph of concepts to be taken to next levels. The four big conference commissioners plus ND plus some good balance of ADs and some legal/economic people are the keys --- not another Trump TV op with celebrities. As we already have seen in his past, his favorite "sport" (WWE) is not a sport but an entertainment show. NOT what I want college sports to emphasize.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

If POTUS stays out of it (and DeSantis etc), and a decent chair installed (Silver?), and some of the Pop Culture people like Tiger, Tebow, the golfers thanked-but-no-thanked, then the rest of that group might produce a useful monograph of concepts to be taken to next levels. The four big conference commissioners plus ND plus some good balance of ADs and some legal/economic people are the keys --- not another Trump TV op with celebrities. As we already have seen in his past, his favorite "sport" (WWE) is not a sport but an entertainment show. NOT what I want college sports to emphasize.

DeSantis is a former college athlete so he does have a perspective to share. But they could even it out by bringing in someone like Corey Booker from the other side of the aisle who also played college sports. But I think we all suspect this is a photo op that will get nothing substantial done.

NGL, I want to hear from folks like Saban and the administrators. And Tebow may be a good person to have considering he would’ve raked in some ridiculous NIL had it been legal. Would like to hear from some recent college players who are out of eligibility to chime in as well and give their experience of NIL and how to make it better.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I'd rather hear from some current older college coaches "who've seen it all" and, as nearing retirement, have less ax to grind. This would include coaches of Olympic sports and things like LAX, Hockey, Track&Field etc.

 

[stpeteirish]

If POTUS stays out of it (and DeSantis etc), and a decent chair installed (Silver?), and some of the Pop Culture people like Tiger, Tebow, the golfers thanked-but-no-thanked, then the rest of that group might produce a useful monograph of concepts to be taken to next levels. The four big conference commissioners plus ND plus some good balance of ADs and some legal/economic people are the keys --- not another Trump TV op with celebrities. As we already have seen in his past, his favorite "sport" (WWE) is not a sport but an entertainment show. NOT what I want college sports to emphasize.

If it’s televised the battle for screen time alone will be worth the price of admission. But it will be a circus of ass kissing and incongruity followed by lunch. Ending with some form of vague proclamation by the esteemed chair which will have no legal standing and be ignored by the people who run college football.