'23 FL DE Keon Keeley (Prodigal Son)

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I’m beginning to buy into the idea that film and character are better than 5 stars. As long as you are elite at evaluating film. Not easy to do. But ND seems to get a lot more out of their 3-4 star players than most other teams do. With the obvious exception being at QB.

I could be wrong but maybe Keeley would be excelling at ND with several sacks and scouts already looking at him. Would we have brought the better version out of him? Boub and Young sure look poised to continue making an impact.
I feel like he’d have a better opportunity to grow at ND. It seems Alabama has been having him gain weight, then lose weight and play out of his natural position. They aren’t doing him any favors. He seemed to be someone they had room for to put the cherry on top of their class but didn’t have room for to actually play. He is the playbook for why you go to best fit and how to screw yourself with handlers and uncles.
 

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I’m beginning to buy into the idea that film and character are better than 5 stars. As long as you are elite at evaluating film. Not easy to do. But ND seems to get a lot more out of their 3-4 star players than most other teams do. With the obvious exception being at QB.
My guess is that a huge percentage of 5-stars who fizzle out fall into two categories - 1 Kids who are ranked highly more for their measurables and potential rather than for actual production, and 2 easily detectable character flaws often ignored by coaches who are fixated by physical ability.

You always take a risk on recruiting a five star athlete with measurables. It's a no brainer. It's actually no risk at all. If you're a good coach, this is what you do - develop athletically gifted players. Win some, lose some.

Recruiting players with character issues is where it gets difficult. The bust rate for these kids is high. With NIL, that risk likely increases. Last I checked, throwing a pile of money at someone with poor judgment rarely ends well. But NIL might actually help coaches weed out these players. The more money these kids expect to earn, the more their true behavior starts to show. Eventually, their stupidity becomes impossible to ignore, and dealing with them, their families and handlers becomes more trouble than it’s worth.

I wouldn’t waste time or resources on players like that, especially with the added risk of them becoming a cancer within the team. It's like marrying a really hot slut, giving her an Amex gold and a white Range Rover, and thinking you’re going to turn her into a loyal, grounded housewife. Good luck with that. Some people may disagree, and that’s fine - go ahead and marry a loose woman.

In these cases I'll take the high character 3 and 4 star.

All that said, 5 stars are 5 stars for a reason. You're not winning titles without them. You take 'em unless there are obvious character flaws.
 

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I agree with all that's being said here but great would it be take flyer on him and have Golden & Co. work there magic on him and unlock that potential. Open more eyes from some of these top prospect that don't even give ND a chance to make that prospect pool a little bigger the program.

That said, he probably would be at best the 3rd string SDE.
 

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Can he even get into ND? I believe the only undergrads they’ve allowed to enroll have all been from elite academic institutions (Duke, NW).
 

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Can he even get into ND? I believe the only undergrads they’ve allowed to enroll have all been from elite academic institutions (Duke, NW).
It’s unlikely he’d have the coursework at this point. Maybe as a grad transfer?
 

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Some of you all smoke to much lol. It was pipe dream when he was a recruit that he ended up here and now it’s even more impossible.
 

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Not quite ready to write him off. It took 2-3 years for Braswell, C. Miller, D. Turner, Ragland, J. Allen to become impact players. Maybe Keeley comes on and maybe he doesn’t.
 

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That's good. Sometimes it takes longer for the big boys in the trenches to make an impact, even if they're big time recruits. Usually easier for skill players to break in quicker.
 

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I know this isn’t the way to be, but I don’t care.

He allowed his family to pimp him to a football factory for money and took the easier way. I don’t care if he plays or sits the bench.
 

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I know this isn’t the way to be, but I don’t care.

He allowed his family to pimp him to a football factory for money and took the easier way. I don’t care if he plays or sits the bench.
Does seem kinda petty and emotional. You get jilted by a girl, you don't meltdown and bitch about it and make it clear she hurt you. You shrug and say, "Next!"
 

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Man, I don't follow recruiting hardly at all, I remember this guy was an early commit and then left. I don't care one way or the other. I don't know how some of you guys follow recruiting closely, it would give me a headache.
 

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Man, I don't follow recruiting hardly at all, I remember this guy was an early commit and then left. I don't care one way or the other. I don't know how some of you guys follow recruiting closely, it would give me a headache.
With curiosity and little emotion.
 
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