Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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Blazers46 said:
It comes down to money. BK left because of money. Sure it’s easier to recruit there (that’s the theory at least) but money talks. Will ND pay to keep Freeman? If Freeman were smart he’d make sure he gets paid at ND. Last year ND proved a lot… but so did Freeman. You pay him to retain him. You pay him so much that the national media doesn’t even think he’s an option.
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Yeah, but I don't think that Kelly left ND because of money.
Respect maybe. Maybe he equates money with respect. He had requested an extension twice and been turned down. I can understand the inner monologue where he is saying,
"I am the winningest coach for this school, near top in winning percentage, who TF do they think they are saying no to me. What are they going to do without ME?"
"I am going to a place where I can win a championship"

There is all logical, but it is missing a huge dose or humility. I don't think that BK ever even pretended to be humble. Without that, he jumps to LSU and four year later is out of work, with a tarnished reputation, and one metric Scrooge McDuck of cash in the bank.
 
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SWirishfan said:
Yeah, but I don't think that Kelly left ND because of money.
Respect maybe. Maybe he equates money with respect. He had requested an extension twice and been turned down. I can understand the inner monologue where he is saying,
"I am the winningest coach for this school, near top in winning percentage, who TF do they think they are saying no to me. What are they going to do without ME?"
"I am going to a place where I can win a championship"

There is all logical, but it is missing a huge dose or humility. I don't think that BK ever even pretended to be humble. Without that, he jumps to LSU and four year later is out of work, with a tarnished reputation, and one metric Scrooge McDuck of cash in the bank.
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I tend to agree with this. Brian Kelly made plenty of money at Notre Dame, and no one "needs" $100 million.
Maybe the money is a sign of respect, and maybe he was feeling disrespected for other reasons and along comes LSU offering him the world.
Maybe - and this is my theory - he'd done everything he could do at Notre Dame except win a title and he figured that would be easier at LSU (on balance it probably is).
Maybe it was just time for him and Notre Dame both to move on. And, fun as the last few days have been, maybe at this point that's what we should do too.
 
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SWirishfan said:
Yeah, but I don't think that Kelly left ND because of money.
Respect maybe. Maybe he equates money with respect. He had requested an extension twice and been turned down. I can understand the inner monologue where he is saying,
"I am the winningest coach for this school, near top in winning percentage, who TF do they think they are saying no to me. What are they going to do without ME?"
"I am going to a place where I can win a championship"

There is all logical, but it is missing a huge dose or humility. I don't think that BK ever even pretended to be humble. Without that, he jumps to LSU and four year later is out of work, with a tarnished reputation, and one metric Scrooge McDuck of cash in the bank.
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I think what I’m talking about goes beyond why Brian Kelly actually left in the first place. He was rumored to leave many times before he actually did leave. There were many vacancies that the national media would place his name as a candidate.

I am simply stating that Notre Dame is not seen as a top tier coaching job if their head coach is always brought up in the conversation when it comes to coaching vacancies. My thought is that because Notre Dame historically does not pay in the top tier of coaches in regard to salary that that is a reason.

Marcus Freeman just took Notre Dame to the national championship. Why is his name being brought up but not Ryan Day? Why not Kirby Smart? Why not the guy at Alabama?

In a world that did not involve money Dan Lanning would be someone that I would think would hop from Oregon to LSU in a heartbeat. But Oregon has money so his name is not brought up.
 
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SWirishfan said:
Yeah, but I don't think that Kelly left ND because of money.
Respect maybe. Maybe he equates money with respect. He had requested an extension twice and been turned down. I can understand the inner monologue where he is saying,
"I am the winningest coach for this school, near top in winning percentage, who TF do they think they are saying no to me. What are they going to do without ME?"
"I am going to a place where I can win a championship"

There is all logical, but it is missing a huge dose or humility. I don't think that BK ever even pretended to be humble. Without that, he jumps to LSU and four year later is out of work, with a tarnished reputation, and one metric Scrooge McDuck of cash in the bank.
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Humility..........That is exactly why Kelly didn't get what he wants and Freeman is getting what he wants.
 
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Blazers46 said:
I think what I’m talking about goes beyond why Brian Kelly actually left in the first place. He was rumored to leave many times before he actually did leave. There were many vacancies that the national media would place his name as a candidate.

I am simply stating that Notre Dame is not seen as a top tier coaching job if their head coach is always brought up in the conversation when it comes to coaching vacancies. My thought is that because Notre Dame historically does not pay in the top tier of coaches in regard to salary that that is a reason. Marcus Freeman just took Notre Dame to the national championship. Why is his name being brought up but not Ryan Day? Why not Kirby Smart? Why not the guy at Alabama? In a world that did not involve money Dan Lanning would be someone that I would think would hop from Oregon to LSU in a heartbeat. But Oregon has money so his name is not brought up.
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BK interviewed for an NFL job during in his third year at ND. He made it pretty clear he was looking around. When he left for LSU, many posters here essentially agreed with BK's insinuation that he was an amazing coach held back by ND's "limitations." So he went to a school that apparently has no such no limitations and where three coaches in a row had won titles. Ding ding ding. I guess that theory has been disproved.

MF's name is being brought up by the media because he is only 39 and hasn't won a title at ND yet but has done a good job. Both Day and Smart have won titles at their current jobs, and Smart played at UGA. And Lanning's name is being brought up a lot, especially for the SEC openings.
 
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There are three active coaches who have won National Championships. There are currently 136 FBS schools.

The vast majority of these hires are going to be made predicated on a wing and a prayer with tens of millions of dollars involved.
 
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Blazers46 said:
I think what I’m talking about goes beyond why Brian Kelly actually left in the first place. He was rumored to leave many times before he actually did leave. There were many vacancies that the national media would place his name as a candidate.

I am simply stating that Notre Dame is not seen as a top tier coaching job if their head coach is always brought up in the conversation when it comes to coaching vacancies. My thought is that because Notre Dame historically does not pay in the top tier of coaches in regard to salary that that is a reason.

Marcus Freeman just took Notre Dame to the national championship. Why is his name being brought up but not Ryan Day? Why not Kirby Smart? Why not the guy at Alabama?

In a world that did not involve money Dan Lanning would be someone that I would think would hop from Oregon to LSU in a heartbeat. But Oregon has money so his name is not brought up.
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The guy is a magnet for attention, and the business is clicks>anything.

No Diddy, but Freeman is young, in shape, handsome, and has a good personality. Women know who he is. His name gets double clicks than any of the other “White Bread” coaches you mentioned above.

Here’s some Google trends intel among the 3. Freeman’s peaks dwarf the others. The red line (Day) appearing persistently higher? That may be due to accidental searchers for 90 Day Fiancé, which regularly gets multiples of the traffic as these coaches combined.

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FDNYIrish1 said:
MF is the prototype for the modern coach in college football. His ability to navigate this current landscape is impressive.
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I think there is a few prototypes but he is certainly one of them. Seems like kids want to play for him, parents want their kids to play for him, good ambassador. I think it helps that he's young and himself was a big time recruit.

I dont think he is stuck in old ways of thinking, probably rolls with the punches better than guys who built their model in pre-NIL/constant transfer environment. In a way I think he was a logical successor to Brian Kelly (made a lot of progress bringing ND into modern football). Ask Wisconsin what happens if too much changes too soon.
 
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Blazers46 said:
I think what I’m talking about goes beyond why Brian Kelly actually left in the first place. He was rumored to leave many times before he actually did leave. There were many vacancies that the national media would place his name as a candidate.

I am simply stating that Notre Dame is not seen as a top tier coaching job if their head coach is always brought up in the conversation when it comes to coaching vacancies. My thought is that because Notre Dame historically does not pay in the top tier of coaches in regard to salary that that is a reason.

Marcus Freeman just took Notre Dame to the national championship. Why is his name being brought up but not Ryan Day? Why not Kirby Smart? Why not the guy at Alabama?

In a world that did not involve money Dan Lanning would be someone that I would think would hop from Oregon to LSU in a heartbeat. But Oregon has money so his name is not brought up.
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Uh, Kalen DeBoer's name is brought up all the time. He is specifically mentioned for the PSU job. Kirby is an alum and is not going anywhere. He's also the current highest paid coach in the game. Lanning's name also gets tossed around.
 
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Blazers46 said:
I think what I’m talking about goes beyond why Brian Kelly actually left in the first place. He was rumored to leave many times before he actually did leave. There were many vacancies that the national media would place his name as a candidate.

I am simply stating that Notre Dame is not seen as a top tier coaching job if their head coach is always brought up in the conversation when it comes to coaching vacancies. My thought is that because Notre Dame historically does not pay in the top tier of coaches in regard to salary that that is a reason.

Marcus Freeman just took Notre Dame to the national championship. Why is his name being brought up but not Ryan Day? Why not Kirby Smart? Why not the guy at Alabama?

In a world that did not involve money Dan Lanning would be someone that I would think would hop from Oregon to LSU in a heartbeat. But Oregon has money so his name is not brought up.
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Or maybe he really rubs people the wrong way sometimes.

I can certainly see him grouching up if an NFL GM asked him about some game he lost, some decision he made, or why he didn't make the CBK 2.0 changes on his own - that they had to be forced on him by Swarbrick.

So BK coming or going does not really teach me anything about Notre Dame. Marcus Freeman's name is coming up all over because, after Kelly left, in strode the perfect coach for almost any program.
Coach Freeman is every AD's wet dream - young, energetic, successful, connects with recruits, interviews well, does not turn into a purple faced anger monster on national TV.
Can anyone say that about Ryan Day? Even Bucknut fans hated him after his latest loss to ScUM.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
Didn’t realize that Powlus had a second son on the team.
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Rhule, who has won 18 games at Nebraska, has gotten a raise to $12.5 million. It's time to dig in and make Marcus the highest paid head coach in college football and make a commitment to the long term success of this program
 
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The extension last year came right around the end of the regular season or in the lead up to the playoff opening round. Perhaps we will have a similar timeline this year.
 
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