Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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I don't see why Freeman would want to go to the NFL. He has it made right now. He can stick around at ND. Make just as much money. Win 10 games per season and make the playoffs every year. Or he can go coach the Titans for 3 seasons before getting canned because everything about that type of bottom feeder organization is rotten.
 
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GATTACA! said:
I don't see why Freeman would want to go to the NFL. He has it made right now. He can stick around at ND. Make just as much money. Win 10 games per season and make the playoffs every year. Or he can go coach the Titans for 3 seasons before getting canned because everything about that type of bottom feeder organization is rotten.
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Same. I'm not saying he wouldn't go if a team called, but I just don't see him as an NFL coach. He's a players coach first, and in the NFL they tend to be more X's and O's guys other than the occasional Dan Campbell. I'm sure the schedule of a HC at a place like ND is super tiring, especially given how involved Freeman is in everything, and maybe he would like a bit of a break from commitments that an NFL coach would bring...I just think right now he's enjoying what he's doing and I don't see him going yet. Feels like he appreciates what he's doing and leading these young men. I think he really wants to bring a championship here, then we'll see if he has aspirations elsewhere as time goes on.
 
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ulukinatme said:
Same. I'm not saying he wouldn't go if a team called, but I just don't see him as an NFL coach. He's a players coach first, and in the NFL they tend to be more X's and O's guys other than the occasional Dan Campbell. I'm sure the schedule of a HC at a place like ND is super tiring, especially given how involved Freeman is in everything, and maybe he would like a bit of a break from commitments that an NFL coach would bring...I just think right now he's enjoying what he's doing and I don't see him going yet. Feels like he appreciates what he's doing and leading these young men. I think he really wants to bring a championship here, then we'll see if he has aspirations elsewhere as time goes on.
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He's young enough to have a long career at ND and still go to the NFL if he wants. He still wouldn't be 50 if coached here 10 more seasons and decided to go to the League where at that age he could coach for another 20 years.
 
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GATTACA! said:
I don't see why Freeman would want to go to the NFL. He has it made right now. He can stick around at ND. Make just as much money. Win 10 games per season and make the playoffs every year. Or he can go coach the Titans for 3 seasons before getting canned because everything about that type of bottom feeder organization is rotten.
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I agree with what you are saying, however recruiting is never going to get easier, it’s time consuming and freeman’s family is going to get older and want him to be around. The NFL makes those items easier.
 
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I agree with what you are saying, however recruiting is never going to get easier, it’s time consuming and freeman’s family is going to get older and want him to be around. The NFL makes those items easier.
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That's my only worry. I think he enjoys coaching college, but he may get burned out and look for a break via NFL.
 
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ulukinatme said:
That's my only worry. I think he enjoys coaching college, but he may get burned out and look for a break via NFL.
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He’s the kind of guy that runs “to” things, not away from them. If you listen to what he says in interviews, when he leaves to go the NFL it will be:

-To a good situation. The man wants to maximize his potential and those around him. He will not be going to a dumpster fire. He acknowledges the credit he gets as a head coach and shares that credit with everyone in the program, he is self aware enough to know he can’t make a losing franchise a winner by himself.

-To a place he has good relationships. This comes up all the time re: decisions to go to OSU, Cinci, ND. It won’t be to the first place that opens up just because.

Idk if that narrows down the list of possible jobs at all, but coaching in the league and winning a SB is the pinnacle of the sport. He will try someday. Even if he fails, he isn’t the kind of guy to stick around for decades and sit on the laurels of 10 win seasons.
 
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He’s the kind of guy that runs “to” things, not away from them. If you listen to what he says in interviews, when he leaves to go the NFL it will be:

-To a good situation. The man wants to maximize his potential and those around him. He will not be going to a dumpster fire. He acknowledges the credit he gets as a head coach and shares that credit with everyone in the program, he is self aware enough to know he can’t make a losing franchise a winner by himself.

-To a place he has good relationships. This comes up all the time re: decisions to go to OSU, Cinci, ND. It won’t be to the first place that opens up just because.

Idk if that narrows down the list of possible jobs at all, but coaching in the league and winning a SB is the pinnacle of the sport. He will try someday. Even if he fails, he isn’t the kind of guy to stick around for decades and sit on the laurels of 10 win seasons.
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Ahh crap, you're ruining it Beavis.
I mean I don't want much, just the next Rockne/Leahy/Ara/Lou who sticks around for a few decades and wins multiple National Championships.
 
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The NFL is a meat grinder that chews up coaches and spits them out every 2-3 years. Then they all fall back into their NFL networks trying to rebuild their image to have another crack at the top job.

Marcus is about to have this thing on auto pilot. The man has so much going for him: seemingly a great human being, family man and good role model that parents like, he's a minority that relates to the kids and their background, is freaking cooler than the other coaches.

He just needs that championship in the next 2-3 years and it will make recruiting easy. The man knows how much a statue here means.
 
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Freeman is building to be included in the next monument of coaches at ND Rockne/Leahy/Ara/Lou and I believe he will win a championship within the next 2-3 years, why would he want to go to Florida?

After he has left his stamp on Notre Dame I think he would leave for the NFL.
 
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irishff1014 said:
I agree with what you are saying, however recruiting is never going to get easier, it’s time consuming and freeman’s family is going to get older and want him to be around. The NFL makes those items easier.
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I think recruiting is going to get easier for the head coach. As college GMs continue to evolve, they are going to take some of the responsibilities that currently fall on the head coach. I don’t think the college off-season will ever be as low key as the NFL off-season for head coaches, but I do think it’s going to become less that it is now in the very near future.
 
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If Cincy cleans house and say Day wins #2. Would Day leave for a new challenge with good upside?
 
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If Cincy cleans house and say Day wins #2. Would Day leave for a new challenge with good upside?
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Does Cincy have good upside, though? I know they have Burrow but: A) he's made of glass, B) they have like 90% of their cap tied up in a small handful of players, which means C) they consistently have bad OLs which contributes to point A.

I get it's the NFL and there are only so many jobs to go around and Cincy is better positioned than most other teams, but I'm not sure it's a better job than OSU. I mean if Day really wants the NFL none of that will matter and he'll go, but does he actually want the NFL? If wins #2 he's basically the king of CFB at that point.
 
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While ND & we fans were better off when BK left, his slithering out of town to go to LSU caught me by surprise. Part of the surprise was towards LSU…WTH were they thinking?! The other part was him leaving in the fashion he did. So I’ll take nothing for granted. No reason to think MF would be looking to leave for greener pastures but I’ve learned in CFB…never say ‘never’. The ball seems to be in Notre Dame’s court. They can’t mess this up. That means don’t panic like Kevin White did when he was ND’s AD but don’t take MF for granted either. I trust Bevaqua to do the right thing.
 
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IRISHDODGER said:
While ND & we fans were better off when BK left, his slithering out of town to go to LSU caught me by surprise. Part of the surprise was towards LSU…WTH were they thinking?! The other part was him leaving in the fashion he did. So I’ll take nothing for granted. No reason to think MF would be looking to leave for greener pastures but I’ve learned in CFB…never say ‘never’. The ball seems to be in Notre Dame’s court. They can’t mess this up. That means don’t panic like Kevin White did when he was ND’s AD but don’t take MF for granted either. I trust Bevaqua to do the right thing.
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Yeah, I'm with you 100%. I've been on this Earth for 47 years and have been an ND fan for every one of them. These coaches can't say the same thing. These are jobs to them, means to an end. That's it. They don't care about it and love it like we do. They want to win and they're trying to win, but at the end of the day, in this modern era there probably isn't a guy who isn't going to do what is absolutely best for him and his family. I put Marcus Freeman in that category along with everyone else. I hope he is the person he projects himself to be, but ultimately if he gets an offer he feels he has to take, he's probably going to take it. He doesn't owe Notre Dame or it's fans anything.
 
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IRISHDODGER said:
While ND & we fans were better off when BK left, his slithering out of town to go to LSU caught me by surprise. Part of the surprise was towards LSU…WTH were they thinking?! The other part was him leaving in the fashion he did. So I’ll take nothing for granted. No reason to think MF would be looking to leave for greener pastures but I’ve learned in CFB…never say ‘never’. The ball seems to be in Notre Dame’s court. They can’t mess this up. That means don’t panic like Kevin White did when he was ND’s AD but don’t take MF for granted either. I trust Bevaqua to do the right thing.
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I often think about what O'Malley on II said about BK when he left and a reader asked if he ever really "loved" ND. To paraphrase: "He loved ND more than you ever will for exactly 11 years, because it was his job to love it that much. Then he got a different job and now he doesn't."

I thought it was a funny response and even though it's absurd and paradoxical I think it's honestly a pretty accurate representation for how a lot of these coaches think.
 
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I often think about what O'Malley on II said about BK when he left and a reader asked if he ever really "loved" ND. To paraphrase: "He loved ND more than you ever will for exactly 11 years, because it was his job to love it that much. Then he got a different job and now he doesn't."

I thought it was a funny response and even though it's absurd and paradoxical I think it's honestly a pretty accurate representation for how a lot of these coaches think.
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I will say I think he “loved” ND (whatever that means to BK) more than LSU. I don’t think he ever really understood LSU and it was purely a mercenary move he made.
 
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greyhammer90 said:
I often think about what O'Malley on II said about BK when he left and a reader asked if he ever really "loved" ND. To paraphrase: "He loved ND more than you ever will for exactly 11 years, because it was his job to love it that much. Then he got a different job and now he doesn't."

I thought it was a funny response and even though it's absurd and paradoxical I think it's honestly a pretty accurate representation for how a lot of these coaches think.
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It's 100% accurate. When ND fired Weis, Kelly probably crawls over broken glass from Cincinnati to South Bend to get that job. Then 11 years later, he flies out of South Bend to Baton Rouge like Clark Griswold sledding down the hill.

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These are just jobs for these guys. Every last one of them. So when the plan to keep a good assistant coach is just to keep giving him a raise so he'll stay, you're basically an idiot for suggesting it and you're going to be left disappointed. They don't care as much as you do. They're not fans. Mike Mickens, for all intents and purposes, doesn't give a fuck that 20 people on this board want to give him a massive raise so he'll never leave. He has multiple contingency plans for whatever his next move is.
 
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