Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

[NDVirginia19]

I want to thank BK for recruiting Freeman to South Bend as a DC instead of going to LSU.
I want to thank BK for taking the bag and going to LSU, but failing to bring Freeman with him.
Still waiting on a title, but last season was the best season I can remember because I was too young to really appreciate the '88 championship.

It really is crazy how much the butterfly effect in this case works out. Without keeping BVG far longer than we should have and his firing when it happened, we would not have gotten Elko. Without Elko taking the lateral job to Texas A&M when he did, we would not have gotten Lea to be promoted. Without Lea taking the job at Vandy when he did, we would not have gotten Freeman at DC and eventually HC. So really, we need to thank Brian Van Gorder for giving us MFMF as our head football coach.

 

[Kingbish01]

I’m not disagreeing or being contrary, but he did bring in Daniels. It wasn’t like he was a hot commodity at the time.

Ahh....I did think Daniels was there when he arrived, so I'll give him a tad of credit. But for the most part, that (IMO) is the weakest part of BK's game. He never could get a QB going at ND to save his life.

 

[irishff1014]

This morning Brady Quinn mentioned that LSU was actually courting Riley before Kelly but Riley wanted USC. I guess we really owe Riley a "double" thank you.

LSU wasn’t far enough from Texas and Riley’s side piece.

 

[Pointman02]

Triggering? I stated a fact. He has the most wins and losses of any ND coach. The dude was average. It’s funny that people think he did something amazing at ND. He didn’t. Dan Devine did more and was demonized by the fan base.

Devine was demonized because he wasn’t Ara. Kelly was appreciated, if not ever loved, because he wasn’t Weis, Willingham, O’Leary*, or Davies.

 

[thekid33]

because he wasn’t Weis, Willingham, O’Leary*, or Davies.

God, what a dark era we lived through.

 

[SportsingHard]

Devine was demonized because he wasn’t Ara. Kelly was appreciated, if not ever loved, because he wasn’t Weis, Willingham, O’Leary*, or Davies.

I was happy for BK when he left, because very few ND fans seemed to appreciate him by the end of 2021. Of course, I saw it as a win for everybody when Freeman was promoted.

 

[KPENN]

 

[Redbar]

Devine was demonized because he wasn’t Ara. Kelly was appreciated, if not ever loved, because he wasn’t Weis, Willingham, O’Leary*, or Davies.

Devine was demonized because he was Dan Devine.

 

[sixstar]

And he wouldn't let Rudy dress according to Hollywood

 

[SportsingHard]

Devine was demonized because he was Dan Devine.

Holtz-level performance without a likable personality. What's odd is, in Devine's time, if you had a likable personality, you were generally seen as unfit for coaching.

 

[Bane]

 

[GowerND11]

Holtz-level performance without a likable personality. What's odd is, in Devine's time, if you had a likable personality, you were generally seen as unfit for coaching.

When you have to follow Ara, and the love everyone had for him, it was always going to be impossible.

Throw in the fact that he came from the NFL, and I think a lot of people were, understandably, speculative.

 

[sixstar]

 

[Kingbish01]

Looking back at some of the comments under the ESPN tweet, are gold!

 

[Huntr]

Looking back at some of the comments under the ESPN tweet, are gold!

Some asshole ND fan is replying to the replies from 4 years ago. 🤣

 

[Kingbish01]

Some asshole ND fan is replying to the replies from 4 years ago. 🤣

After it was posted here, I wouldn't be shocked if said fan is on IE 🤔😂

 

[jprue24]

Triggering? I stated a fact. He has the most wins and losses of any ND coach. The dude was average. It’s funny that people think he did something amazing at ND. He didn’t. Dan Devine did more and was demonized by the fan base.

bro...bra...bruv...fuck. face. Why are you even talking to me? All I've done is said having the most wins in ND history is BK's claim to fame...

...crazy... I know...

... but somehow... here we are, jfc

 

[ulukinatme]

After it was posted here, I wouldn't be shocked if said fan is on IE 🤔😂

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Definitely agree. Just gotta up the price and keep him happy

Watch the recent Pete Bevacqua interview on the Dan Patrick show when he talks about Marcus Freeman and then again when he talks about maintaining Independence. Its about a 15 minute interview. Marcus isnt going anywhere over money. They will give him a blank check.

 

[ndfanatic78]

bro...bra...bruv...fuck. face. Why are you even talking to me? All I've done is said having the most wins in ND history is BK's claim to fame...

...crazy... I know...

... but somehow... here we are, jfc

Damn what an over reaction. Get your pussy checked out I think you have a vaginal infection that has spread to your brain. Your pissed because I responded to you responding to me? You realize you are on the internet, on a message board responding to my comment, right? 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the laugh.

 

[SportsingHard]

Since Leahy retired (end of the glory years), ND has had 12 coaches responsible for more than one game. I'd say five were good, including Ole Purpleface. Frankly, winning is harder in the modern era. Kelly/Freeman couldn't admit many of Holtz's best players, and ND doesn't dominate TV anymore. Arguably, when circumstances are taken into account, the best coaches have been 1) Parseghian, 2) Freeman, 3) Kelly.

Year (s)	Coach	Seasons	Won	Lost	Tied	Pct.
1964-1974	Ara Parseghian	11	95	17	4	0.836
1986-1996	Lou Holtz	11	100	30	2	0.765
1975-1980	Dan Devine	6	53	16	1	0.764
2022-2025	Marcus Freeman	4	38	12	0	0.760
2010-2021	Brian Kelly	12	113	40	0	0.739
1954-1958	Terry Brennan	5	32	18	0	0.640
1997-2001	Bob Davie	5	35	25	0	0.583
2002-2004	Tyrone Willingham	3	21	15	0	0.583
2005-2009	Charlie Weis	5	35	27	0	0.565
1981-1985	Gerry Faust	5	30	26	1	0.535
1959-1962	Joe Kuharich	4	17	23	0	0.425
1963	Hugh Devore	1	2	7	1	0.222
2004 Insight Bowl	Kent Baer (interim)	0	0	1	0	0.000
TOTALS		72	571	257	9	0.687

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Kelly's last 3 defensive coordinators at ND are ranked ahead of him in each poll. I enjoy this fact.

 

[Old Man Mike]

My undergrad years at Notre Dame were Brennan's last year and Kuharich's first three.

END OF MESSAGE.

 

[zelezo vlk]

My undergrad years at Notre Dame were Brennan's last year and Kuharich's first three.

END OF MESSAGE.

Either your undergrad years or my grandfather's (a year or two after you) were I think statistically the worst 4 years of ND football. What timing!

 

[SportsingHard]

My undergrad years at Notre Dame were Brennan's last year and Kuharich's first three.

END OF MESSAGE.

I got to see Kim Helton go 1-9-1 my freshman year at Houston, but transferred to Michigan State in time to watch the Steel Curtain mastermind and the GOAT go 17-17-1.

 

[T Town Tommy]

That’s a $100 million dollar answer right there. Giddy up!!!

 

[Valpodoc85]

I had four years of Jerry Faust. Tough sledding

 

[texbender]

I had four years of Jerry Faust. Tough sledding

Ouch, those years wasted so much talent on the roster.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

wow, you guys are so smart going to Notre Dame and I went to Purdue and I got to see Darrell Hazell win about 4 games in my years there.
BUT I got to see a younger even more handsome Marcus Freeman

 

[Valpodoc85]

two daughters went to Perdue, you folks start drinking early