Pope Francis has died at 88

Old Man Mike

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I'm too old school for IE. I agree. I still prefer to use words in their classic sense (without dilution by modernity and/or slang.) So, for me, this is the Catholic traditional (Biblical) definition of "Hate." ---> "In a biblical context, "Hate" can be understood as a strong aversion or intense dislike, but it also encompasses A REFUSAL TO CHOOSE LOVE FOR SOMEONE. It is not just an emotion, but a way of relating to others and a chosen action, often contrasted with God's judgement against sin and evil."

I stand by my opinion, and my admiration for Francis, that he did not Hate anyone. He certainly did not like many persons' actions, and even spoke and acted against such actions, but "hate the sinner"? No.

p.s. I do not consider this unimportant word jiggling. This man was a very good man.
 

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Even the new pope said God can’t fix the Cubs glaring hole at third base and bullpen issues.
 

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Turns out he's a Cubs fan. I'm off the bandwagon now. 😂
I need firm proof of this before I'm out on Leo.

@Whiskeyjack on the Pillar livestream right now, JD Flynn mentioned he's hearing that Leo had an indult to say the Latin Mass in the 1990s while working at the USCCB and that he was seen saying the Old Mass within the past few months in Rome.
 
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Sounds like he has plenty "conservative" beliefs as well. @dublinirish Sorry that he's not Francis 2.0. I am sure you were really looking forward to the Catholic church continuing to spread their liberal ideals that Francis welcomed!
 
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I'm thrilled he's an American. I've been singing American Woman today and substituting woman with Pope.
 

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GqcYeeWXwAAdMon

Sounds like he has plenty "conservative" beliefs as well. @dublinirish Sorry that he's not Francis 2.0. I am sure you were really looking forward to the Catholic church continuing to spread their liberal ideals that Francis welcomed!

Nobody cares what you think, Rachel.
 

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So I'm hearing that NBC had a childhood friend of Leo interviewed that confirmed he's a Sox fan. Repent all ye Cubs fans, spreading your slander
 

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It’s funny that MAGA World believes the new Pope is woke because he asked Trump and Vance to not be assholes.
And its going to be funny when libs freak out when he acknowledges basic Catholic doctrine.

Turns out weirdos who spend their days fighting imaginary wars on social media will be mad that Catholicism doesn't follow their every desire.
 

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LEO XIV

Perceived as a centrist. Seems to have a heart for the poor, without being squishy on any of the divisive doctrinal issues. Choosing Leo indicates an intent to govern conservatively. Leos have historically been fierce defenders of orthodoxy.
This would be excellent if true. I loved Pope Benedict; I welcomed Pope Francis as warmly as possible given that many of his statements were too opaque in their intention and he harbored a disdain for Latin in the Mass. I sometimes wondered if his Novus Ordo Masses were so reverent and full of beauty that he forgot what dull, lackluster, kumbaya-riddled messes we produced over here.
 
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