2024 College Football Playoffs

wizards8507

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How many games do you think Bama should have been allowed to lose before being eliminated for SMU? You're arguing about 3 losses so thats clearly not enough, should they have been able to lose a full third of their games and still get in?
I'm asking this sincerely.

Based on your logic...

Why shouldn't Army be in?

If SMU is ahead of Alabama, then Army should be ahead of Georgia. And Texas. And Penn State. And Ohio State. And Tennessee. And oh by the way SMU.
 

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1 and 2 are fine, 3 and 4 don't work logistically. There aren't enough employees to staff 80,000-seat stadiums in South Bend or Ann Arbor or Athens on a week's notice on New Year's Day.
Move the start of the season back to current week 0.
 

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If the committee values SOS and then puts in a team with the 60th ranked schedule and zero wins against top 25 teams over the 9th ranked SOS and three wins over current top 25 teams they sure didn’t show it.

End of the day, if this is how they are going to choose playoff teams, then it’s bad for CFB. There will be plenty of teams trying to cancel really good OOC games and just schedule down. It’s just bad for marquee matchups and bad for a team like Notre Dame. Who wants to play a perennial top 10-15 team anymore if this is the criteria that’s going to be used?
Maybe. But I think it’s a no-win regardless. Look at ND‘s schedule before season started. It included FSU & SC…two teams that fell well short of their projection & became lesser impressive wins for ND. Then you had Miami opt out at the last minute so ND had to scramble to replace them w/ Army. None of that is ND’s fault. You play who you are slated to play.
 

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I’m not giving any SEC team credit for ‘top 25 wins’ just by default when this has been covered over and over for years,… it’s different when it’s a win over UGA or bama but since they never play each other in the regular season that’s pretty mute,… if 9-1 Iowa beats 9-1 Wisky, wisky falls ten or more spots if not out of the top 25 all together and Iowa barely moves,… if ole miss is 8–2 and beats an 8-2 MSU in the egg bowl Ole Miss jumps multiple spots and MSU stays ranked,… this has been a thing for decades now and I’m over it.


For James Franklin, idk what he said but I can imagine. Dude has been taking shots at ND for years. He’s the cfb picture boy for inferiority complex,… he barks extra loud bc he’s got no bite
 
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IRISHDODGER

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That’s ridiculous and you know it. They have more top 25 wins than almost half the teams in the playoff COMBINED. That has to matter. But as I said, the criteria used by the committee is bad for CFB, bad for my team, and bad for the Irish in the future.
I think Bama gets a mulligan for losing to 6-6 Vandy. Also, the loss to UT was respectable so 10-2 with that schedule & those wins & they’re in. But you can’t go into the last week of the season against a 5-6 team that you’re favored by 3 TDs to beat & get annihilated. You knew the SEC CG was out of the equation, so how is it the Committee’s fault that DeBoer & staff didn’t have the sense of urgency to put a beat down on a bad OU team? Saban wouldn’t have let that happen but Bama lost the “benefit of the doubt” they enjoyed previously b/c it was earned under Saban. Head coaches matter & it showed this season. Not saying Deboer won’t be great but he’s got to earn the same benefit of the doubt that Saban did & getting blown out by OU on top of two other losses doesn’t do it.
 

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I can’t argue the fact that they beat 3 top 25 teams. That was a great accomplishment by Alabama.

You brought up that teams will stop scheduling tough OOC games. I just don’t see the correlation there because Alabama didn’t have a tough OOC game.

Alabama’s performances against Vandy and Oklahoma did them in, not a OOC loss against a tough team.
I said after the Oklahoma game that bama needed to move on to next year. I do think winning matters. But it’s the same premise most years where people look at all conferences being equal. They are not. So SMU , who I personally like watching, plays in a conference that is average to below average, and gets rewarded for what? Oh, they won games against trash in conference opponents, and won games against trash OOC opponents.

In the end this is not good for CFB and within the next five years we will see the SEC and the B1G split away and end CFB as we now know it. And Notre Dame? I’m guessing the B1G as the Irish will not survive outside those two conferences. We will see the NFL model in CFB and to me, it pretty much ends there. It’s hard enough now watching the shit show it’s become.
 

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I said after the Oklahoma game that bama needed to move on to next year. I do think winning matters. But it’s the same premise most years where people look at all conferences being equal. They are not. So SMU , who I personally like watching, plays in a conference that is average to below average, and gets rewarded for what? Oh, they won games against trash in conference opponents, and won games against trash OOC opponents.

In the end this is not good for CFB and within the next five years we will see the SEC and the B1G split away and end CFB as we now know it. And Notre Dame? I’m guessing the B1G as the Irish will not survive outside those two conferences. We will see the NFL model in CFB and to me, it pretty much ends there. It’s hard enough now watching the shit show it’s become.

Was there a Big 10 team that was wrongfully left out this year?

I would’ve thought Alabama fans would’ve been content for a while since they were gifted a CFP spot last year.

How many games are Alabama, Ole Miss, and South Carolina allowed to lose?
 

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Was there a Big 10 team that was wrongfully left out this year?

I would’ve thought Alabama fans would’ve been content for a while since they were gifted a CFP spot last year.

How many games are Alabama, Ole Miss, and South Carolina allowed to lose?
I think the argument can be made that Indiana doesn’t belong. How many pushovers are you allowed to play before it matters? I like Indiana. I love watching SMU play their style of football. But neither team belongs in a playoff before any of the three teams you mentioned.
 

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lol Our national title odds went from +750 to +1200 from last night to today.
Eh,… we have to beat a UGA or tOSU team to make it happen regardless,… now it just has to happen early. The focus needs to be strictly IU. This program CANNOT waste this opportunity. A big postseason game win (NY6 or playoff) hasn’t happened in 30 years. They need to finally put that to bed
 

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I think the argument can be made that Indiana doesn’t belong. How many pushovers are you allowed to play before it matters? I like Indiana. I love watching SMU play their style of football. But neither team belongs in a playoff before any of the three teams you mentioned.
It does suck as Indiana, Boise, and SMU would all get spanked by Bama, Ole Miss, and probably South Carolina. But oh well...lol
 

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I think the argument can be made that Indiana doesn’t belong. How many pushovers are you allowed to play before it matters? I like Indiana. I love watching SMU play their style of football. But neither team belongs in a playoff before any of the three teams you mentioned.
We’re arguing about teams, none of which “deserve” to be in the playoff.
 

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I think the argument can be made that Indiana doesn’t belong. How many pushovers are you allowed to play before it matters? I like Indiana. I love watching SMU play their style of football. But neither team belongs in a playoff before any of the three teams you mentioned.
What about Texas? They didn't beat any ranked teams either. Do they belong?
 

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I think the argument can be made that Indiana doesn’t belong. How many pushovers are you allowed to play before it matters? I like Indiana. I love watching SMU play their style of football. But neither team belongs in a playoff before any of the three teams you mentioned.
Honestly it seems like your beef should be with the SEC.
How is it that Bama played four regular-season games against teams in the final top 20 while Texas played just one?
 

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All the cynicism re Bama getting in because...(myself included) and they did the right thing. Don't think it was easy call for the committee as I'm sure ESPN wanted Bama.
 

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If the committee values SOS and then puts in a team with the 60th ranked schedule and zero wins against top 25 teams over the 9th ranked SOS and three wins over current top 25 teams they sure didn’t show it.

End of the day, if this is how they are going to choose playoff teams, then it’s bad for CFB. There will be plenty of teams trying to cancel really good OOC games and just schedule down. It’s just bad for marquee matchups and bad for a team like Notre Dame. Who wants to play a perennial top 10-15 team anymore if this is the criteria that’s going to be used?

I like you 2 bama fans but the sec will NEVER be happy with any system they come up with.
 

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Honestly it seems like your beef should be with the SEC.
How is it that Bama played four regular-season games against teams in the final top 20 while Texas played just one?
Unbalanced schedules are going to be a feature of these 16-18 team conferences. If they insist on sticking with these conference championship games ($$) they should go back to divisions, at least they will have the teams in the divisions playing the same schedules.

While I'm at it, why can't the committee lay down some parameters for non conference scheduling to try to even that out that a little. Two power four opponents might be a good start. If you refuse, your not eligible for the playoffs.
 

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I think the argument can be made that Indiana doesn’t belong. How many pushovers are you allowed to play before it matters? I like Indiana. I love watching SMU play their style of football. But neither team belongs in a playoff before any of the three teams you mentioned.

Indiana had the big ten make their schedule and then i assume they pick the non conference not all of that is on them.

Just like ND. Louisville has been ranked a lot in the last 10 years, so had FSU, so had USC. ND tired to schedule tougher opponents but they decided to suck. Not ND’s fault.

Oh and it not our fault the ACC allowed Miami to back out so we had to fill it on the schedule and that was army.
 

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If you factor in that ND essentially has an 8 game schedule set (5 ACC + Navy, USC, and Stanford), the "non-conference" was two MAC schools, A&M, and Army. Not a weak schedule in those 4 games all things considered. It's just that the ACC lineup ended up being way worse than it looked. ACC was very weird this year. Same thing kinda happened with Indiana. They had the two national championship teams from last season and neither were good. At this point, the playoffs are set and any whining is just pointless. Don't lose to Vanderbilt. A kid who started at a JuCo military academy looked like A&M Manziel against them. Oh and 3 points against a terrible Oklahoma team didn't help either.
 

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“I think we’ve achieved a lot of things this season that they haven’t achieved since 1898”.

Are you serious!!?
 

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I’m actually ok playing UGA round 2. A statement win over the SEC champion is what’s this program needs more than advancing to the final 4 and losing. No is going to care if we beat ASU and Boise State and then lose to one of the top seeds.
 

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Here to pick you up on this glorious Sunday. We are actually dominate off of extra time to prepare under Freeman.

Freeman is now 10-0 off byes/extra time to prepare and they’re covering the spread by over two touchdowns.

Honestly, probably more than that now after the Florida state and army beatdowns. Here’s the tweet before those two post-bye games:




Freeman is great with extra time, but Riley seemed to struggle after the bye early in the season. He's a rhythm player.
 

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I like you 2 bama fans but the sec will NEVER be happy with any system they come up with.
I don't have a problem with any particular system they've tried - BCS, top 2, 4-team playoff, 12-team playoff. My issue has and will be the same: put the best 2, 4, 12 or whatever in, not the "most deserving" or prettiest resume. If you're a coach or a full-time CFB journalist, or on the playoff committee and you can't watch teams play over the course of a season and have a very good idea who would beat who, then you're in the wrong business. Stop this silly "most deserving" or prettiest resume stuff. It should be about who are the best teams, period. I don't say that because I think my team undeservedly got left out this year. I don't even have a strong opinion on whether they should or shouldn't have been in, am not particularly disappointed they aren't in, and didn't expect them to be in. I just want the best teams in every year, not the so-called most deserving.
 
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