Coaching Carousel

[Kingbish01]

I think there is. But that's why we need to extend him before they and Day break up. Don't give them the chance to come calling. (Last week I said on this very board that we shouldn't extend Freeman until we're done playing this season, but then Ohio State embarassed themselves against Michigan. We should move now.)

I agree, MF just seems to get ND so it would definitely sting. But when it's all said and done, he's an OSU guy and it is what it is. If Manti was the couch of Michigan, I'm sure he'd jump ship if ND came calling. But who knows, everyone assumed Dabo would replace Saban.

 

[MNIrishman]

Just hung up with a buddy I haven't talked to in a while and I was making fun of Ryan Day and OSU. And he said "you ND fans should be rooting for OSU as much as ND.....because you're not gonna keep the Ohio boy when OSU comes calling" I know we all have thought it, but now with OSU losing to UM 4 years in a row....if they come calling is there any real shot MF would stay at ND??

Jim Tressel's head coaching record was 81% at OSU. Nick Saban's overall head coaching record is also 81% (75% at LSU, 88% at Bama). Ryan Day's record at OSU is 86%, and they want to fire him.

No sane person will want that job. Maybe someone like Bryan Kelly who wants a big payday on his way to retirement. I wouldn't worry about Marcus taking it too much.

Also, to highlight the absurdity of the fanbase a bit, I noticed on 11Warriors that they don't really want Marcus Freeman anyway because they don't think he's good enough.

 

[NotKoon]

I know this is some homerism but I don’t see why Freeman would leave to go to OSU. He’s getting to build a modern ND in his image and has said in the past if he could go back in time he would’ve gone to ND over OSU. OSU he’s going to have to live up to the impossible standards of Urban Meyer. I cannot imagine that fan bases reaction to Marshall, 10 men on the field, or NIU. Day had them basically a play away from a national championship two years ago and they are ready to run him out of town

 

[drayer54]

We need a new thread after each season and a running list. This is getting hard to follow.

 

[Kingbish01]

I agree with both of you...I told my buddy. If they take Freeman, we take Day...seems like a win win. He's 66-10 with almost half those losses to Mich. The fans are pissed, and want him gone. No sane person would actually entertain firing him.

 

[Irish#1]

Maybe, but my guess was UNC wanted an easy transition given Brown's history with the school, something like the Shaw step down from Stanford. I think schools are often open to letting a legend walk away with his head held high and pay him all or most of what he's due just so it's a clean transition. For whatever reason it sounds like Mack didn't want that, so he got fired. His choice I guess.

Read an article where UNC wanted him to step down immediately and he said he wanted to wait until the season was over so as not to mess with the players. UNC for some reason didn’t want to and pulled the rug.

 

[ulukinatme]

Jim Tressel's head coaching record was 81% at OSU. Nick Saban's overall head coaching record is also 81% (75% at LSU, 88% at Bama). Ryan Day's record at OSU is 86%, and they want to fire him.

No sane person will want that job. Maybe someone like Bryan Kelly who wants a big payday on his way to retirement. I wouldn't worry about Marcus taking it too much.

Also, to highlight the absurdity of the fanbase a bit, I noticed on 11Warriors that they don't really want Marcus Freeman anyway because they don't think he's good enough.

Good...lets hope they keep thinking that way. Honestly, if Freeman were to win a championship this year I wouldn't really care what happens. I mean, I'd rather he stay if it happens, but I'd be okay with him leaving under those conditions too.

 

[Wild Bill]

Jim Tressel's head coaching record was 81% at OSU. Nick Saban's overall head coaching record is also 81% (75% at LSU, 88% at Bama). Ryan Day's record at OSU is 86%, and they want to fire him.

No sane person will want that job. Maybe someone like Bryan Kelly who wants a big payday on his way to retirement. I wouldn't worry about Marcus taking it too much.

Also, to highlight the absurdity of the fanbase a bit, I noticed on 11Warriors that they don't really want Marcus Freeman anyway because they don't think he's good enough.

I’ve noticed similar regarding their fans’ opinion of Freeman.

They may have the most delusional fan base in the country and the second dumbest only to Tennessee.

 

[MacIrish75]

I agree with both of you...I told my buddy. If they take Freeman, we take Day...seems like a win win. He's 66-10 with almost half those losses to Mich. The fans are pissed, and want him gone. No sane person would actually entertain firing him.

Yeah that’s a gigantic FUCK NO from me.

 

[Irish#1]

I know this is some homerism but I don’t see why Freeman would leave to go to OSU. He’s getting to build a modern ND in his image and has said in the past if he could go back in time he would’ve gone to ND over OSU. OSU he’s going to have to live up to the impossible standards of Urban Meyer. I cannot imagine that fan bases reaction to Marshall, 10 men on the field, or NIU. Day had them basically a play away from a national championship two years ago and they are ready to run him out of town

OSU fans are unrealistic but the high standards came long before Urban. They were ready to get rid of Cooper and Tressel at one time or another.

Day pulled a boner on Michigan's last drive. Pretty much the equivalent of 10 men on the field.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yeah, I took a look at Buckeye Planet too. A few people brought up Freeman, but the general consensus is he's probably too happy at ND to do a "rebuild" of OSU, or he's not qualified enough yet, or they're still pissed that Freeman said awhile back he wished he would have chosen ND back in the day instead of OSU.

There seems to be a lot of talk about Vrabel, despite the fact he hates recruiting and NIL/Portal. Some seemed charmed enough to think he can be talked into coming back.

There's talk of Saban, Urban again, Fickell, Daboer...lot of unrealistic options, but there seems to be a lot of talk of Vrabel. They think if he gets left out of the playoff, he's getting the axe after signing day. If he's in the playoff, he gets a chance to make a statement.

 

[stlnd01]

Yeah, I took a look at Buckeye Planet too. A few people brought up Freeman, but the general consensus is he's probably too happy at ND to do a "rebuild" of OSU, or he's not qualified enough yet, or they're still pissed that Freeman said awhile back he wished he would have chosen ND back in the day instead of OSU.

There seems to be a lot of talk about Vrabel, despite the fact he hates recruiting and NIL/Portal. Some seemed charmed enough to think he can be talked into coming back.

There's talk of Saban, Urban again, Fickell, Daboer...lot of unrealistic options, but there seems to be a lot of talk of Vrabel. They think if he gets left out of the playoff, he's getting the axe after signing day. If he's in the playoff, he gets a chance to make a statement.

OSU will make the playoff. They might even host. And they definitely have the talent to win a few games. Odds are, Day's not going anywhere. If he does, well, Vrabel's a nice idea but doesn't seem to want that noise. Not sure who they'd hire but it better not be Freeman.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Only team day is afraid of is Michigan and they aren't in the playoffs so they'll be just as dangerous as they were going into last Saturday

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Not the thread for this discussion, but here goes anyway....

I don't want Ryan Day, and not because he loses to Michigan.

I also agree that if they fire him, anyone and everyone has to seriously consider what that culture entails. It was John Cooper and now it's Ryan Day. In between you had Tressel and Meyer, who were both rule breakers that were respectively fired and stepped down.

I question whether Ryan Day even wants to stay. He could be welcomed with open arms at a place like WVU or UNC.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Kennesaw State names Jags assistant Mack coach

Jerry Mack, the running backs coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars, was hired as Kennesaw State's head football coach Sunday.

www.espn.com

 

[MacIrish75]

I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere legitimately, but a guy that runs an Indiana HS Media Outlet on social media with a decent following included Pat Fitzgerald on a name to watch at Purdue. I hadn’t even considered him as a possibility there, but it makes a lot of sense and would absolutely be a home run hire for the Boilers. Not that they’ll go that route, but if it’s a possibility, they definitely should consider it.

 

[Kingbish01]

Yeah that’s a gigantic FUCK NO from me.

Ha...Ya, I don't want Day either. But the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. I like coaches that land 5+ guys in the top 25 and win a ton of games. Like it or not, that's Day. Would take him over a "up and comer" any day of the week. But again, not how I'd want it to play out.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Ahem if Day is gone does that mean Marcus Freeman can swoop in and poach Brian Hartline?

 

[stlnd01]

Ha...Ya, I don't want Day either. But the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. I like coaches that land 5+ guys in the top 25 and win a ton of games. Like it or not, that's Day. Would take him over a "up and comer" any day of the week. But again, not how I'd want it to play out.

with effectively unlimited resources, best-of-the-best coordinators and assistants, and a fence around one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country. I'd be curious how Day would do in our job, but I don't particularly want to find out.

 

[LifelongFan]

The main thing with Day is that I think he's a bad person, and after having Kelly for a decade I'm getting used to having a guy I'd actually like.

 

[Katzenboyer]

The main thing with Day is that I think he's a bad person, and after having Kelly for a decade I'm getting used to having a guy I'd actually like.

I don't think Day is a bad person; I think he's a fake person.

Either way, I don't want him near this program.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

I can forgive the game day thread for shitty takes because of alcohol and emotion. But on a Monday morning are people really suggesting Ryan Day as a coach at Notre Dame?? You should all be banned without prejudice and may god have mercy on your souls. Did you see that dimwit do nothing when that melee was going on right in front of him? It’s going to be a long ride in here until the 20th.

 

[Kingbish01]

with effectively unlimited resources, best-of-the-best coordinators and assistants, and a fence around one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country. I'd be curious how Day would do in our job, but I don't particularly want to find out.

This is where I start looking like a Day fanboy while only trying to play devils advocate. I think we are going to find out soon that everything you said about OSU will be true for ND. Resources won't be an issue, I believe we already have the best Coordinators. And stud Ohio HS kids will always go to OSU same down here in Georgia. But if you think for a second that Ryan Day wouldn't have this team 11-1 or 12-0 I'd probably argue that until I was blue in the face. He's lost 10 games at OSU, never started outside the preseason top 5, has been ranked in the top 2 every year at some point. Out of his 10 losses 9 were against top 10 opponents with 5 being top 3. He has 1 bad loss and that was a few days ago. I don't get the Ryan Day hate, and before anyone says he can't win the big games that is why all his losses are top 10, that's not true either. Should have beat #1 Oregon, and did beat two top 5 teams this year...2 top ten teams last year...2 more top 10 teams before that.

 

[Kingbish01]

Ahem if Day is gone does that mean Marcus Freeman can swoop in and poach Brian Hartline?

He may be able to poach him even when he keeps his job. Took Denbrock from his buddy after a Heisman winning campaign. MF may really start to surprise us all, more so than he already has.

 

[Kingbish01]

I can forgive the game day thread for shitty takes because of alcohol and emotion. But on a Monday morning are people really suggesting Ryan Day as a coach at Notre Dame?? You should all be banned without prejudice and may god have mercy on your souls. Did you see that dimwit do nothing when that melee was going on right in front of him? It’s going to be a long ride in here until the 20th.

The shitties take of them all is that Ryan Day is a bad coach. Hope you're a better fireman than football analyst...LOL

 

[FDNYIrish1]

The shitties take of them all is that Ryan Day is a bad coach. Hope you're a better fireman than football analyst...LOL

I’ve done alright for myself thanks. Tell us about all those championships he’s won with a loaded roster yearly while you’re at it. No one said he’s a shitty coach there champ, just not one I want here. Good talk. Thanks. LOL

 

[Kingbish01]

I’ve done alright for myself thanks. Tell us about all those championships he’s won with a loaded roster yearly while you’re at it. No one said he’s a shitty coach there champ, just not one I want here. Good talk. Thanks. LOL

No championships, thank God....I hate OSU. But he has won 2 NY day bowls (Sugar and Rose) in the last 4 years. Last time ND won a bowl game like that was 1991

 

[stlnd01]

This is where I start looking like a Day fanboy while only trying to play devils advocate. I think we are going to find out soon that everything you said about OSU will be true for ND. Resources won't be an issue, I believe we already have the best Coordinators. And stud Ohio HS kids will always go to OSU same down here in Georgia. But if you think for a second that Ryan Day wouldn't have this team 11-1 or 12-0 I'd probably argue that until I was blue in the face. He's lost 10 games at OSU, never started outside the preseason top 5, has been ranked in the top 2 every year at some point. Out of his 10 losses 9 were against top 10 opponents with 5 being top 3. He has 1 bad loss and that was a few days ago. I don't get the Ryan Day hate, and before anyone says he can't win the big games that is why all his losses are top 10, that's not trueeither.Should have beat #1 Oregon, and did beat two top 5 teams this year...2 top ten teams last year...2 more top 10 teams before that.

What’s Day’s record against teams with comparable or better talent?

 

[IrishTusker]

Their fans mostly believe that the next OSU coach has to be an "Ohio guy," which limits the pool a bit. (Of course, Vrabel and Freeman both qualify.) I lived in SB for awhile while at ND, and then lived in Columbus, and Ohio can be pretty parochial by comparison. People have shirts saying "Ohio against the world." Nobody in Indiana thinks it's "Indiana against the world."

Anyway, John Cooper is from Tennessee and had a bad record vs. UM. Whereas Hayes, Tressel, and Meyer are from Ohio, "got" the rivalry, and had winning records vs. UM. Day is from New Hampshire and is now 1-4. On the other hand, Earle Bruce was not from Ohio but played at OSU, and had a winning record vs. UM. I think it's probably unrelated but I guess I can't blame the fans for noticing the pattern.

 

[Huntr]

I just think any coach that has the WR talent available that tOSU has, then refuses to use it, is a bad coach.