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There's a couple of Golson throws that were absolute insanity, but few that were as important of throws as the Kizer to Fuller. Maybe that Golson to Koyack throw at the end of the game against Stanford in 2014, that was pretty insane

The music on this replay cues up perfectly with the play!
 

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Haven't seen the all green uni combo yet this year, wouldn't mind seeing those this weekend and the all whites for USC. End the year with three Alt jersey options.

Come at me...ha
 

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The white pants were the worst. Not even good enough for practice. Live green jerseys and even various shades of blue but those white pants are a no go.
 

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So no more Onye? Anyone see anything official? We getting him back next year? This stinks. Guy was looking like a key player going forward.
 

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That's what doesn't make any sense. They've doubled down on that line of speech and used words that indicate it's his choice. Wouldn't be the first time Driskell said something that turned out to be false.

My guess is the open portal window will provide clarity. If he bounces, it was likely a suspension. If it's crickets, then there's hope he returns.
 

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That's what doesn't make any sense. They've doubled down on that line of speech and used words that indicate it's his choice. Wouldn't be the first time Driskell said something that turned out to be false.

My guess is the open portal window will provide clarity. If he bounces, it was likely a suspension. If it's crickets, then there's hope he returns.
I’m the one who posted the Driskell comment, which was on a ND/GT preview on the GT show.
Driskell never said “Onye” or “suspended.”
But he strongly alluded to it with his comment, “and Notre Dame has another DT sssss….out for a while.”
So he almost said suspended, but stopped short & said out.
I can go back & find the clip and post it.

Edit: Here it is.
Says “one of your top D tackles is sss… is not with the team right now.”
 
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Let's get this paper.
 

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That's what doesn't make any sense. They've doubled down on that line of speech and used words that indicate it's his choice. Wouldn't be the first time Driskell said something that turned out to be false.

My guess is the open portal window will provide clarity. If he bounces, it was likely a suspension. If it's crickets, then there's hope he returns.
Someone in one of the other threads this week said they saw Onye walking into the Gug recently, which would suggest he is in fact "with the team," at least in body if not spirit.
The way Freeman has talked about it would suggest something personal or mental health-related, but also Freeman is very good at euphemisms. Trying to remember if we've had anyone else "suspended" during his time as HC, and how he's discussed it.
Either way, at this point I wouldn't figure Onye plays again this season, and like you say the portal will probably tell the story here. Hopefully he comes back.
 

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Someone in one of the other threads this week said they saw Onye walking into the Gug recently, which would suggest he is in fact "with the team," at least in body if not spirit.
The way Freeman has talked about it would suggest something personal or mental health-related, but also Freeman is very good at euphemisms. Trying to remember if we've had anyone else "suspended" during his time as HC, and how he's discussed it.
Either way, at this point I wouldn't figure Onye plays again this season, and like you say the portal will probably tell the story here. Hopefully he comes back.
That someone was me. Put sum respek on it.
 

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Someone in one of the other threads this week said they saw Onye walking into the Gug recently, which would suggest he is in fact "with the team," at least in body if not spirit.
The way Freeman has talked about it would suggest something personal or mental health-related, but also Freeman is very good at euphemisms. Trying to remember if we've had anyone else "suspended" during his time as HC, and how he's discussed it.
Either way, at this point I wouldn't figure Onye plays again this season, and like you say the portal will probably tell the story here. Hopefully he comes back.
It depends on the reason for the suspension?
Players get suspended for academics, for behavior, etc…
Rubio was suspended, not with the team. Then he was back with the team, but not practicing.
A player can be disciplined for a short amount of time for something he did, but the team still 100% support him & want him back once he has handled the situation.
It can be two things at once. Maybe he has a personal issue that caused him to make a mistake. The team understands and wants him back after it’s handled. It can be both.
 

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It depends on the reason for the suspension?
Players get suspended for academics, for behavior, etc…
Rubio was suspended, not with the team. Then he was back with the team, but not practicing.
A player can be disciplined for a short amount of time for something he did, but the team still 100% support him & want him back once he has handled the situation.
It can be two things at once. Maybe he has a personal issue that caused him to make a mistake. The team understands and wants him back after it’s handled. It can be both.
Hope the big fella does whatever is necessary to get himself back in the lineup.
 

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It depends on the reason for the suspension?
Players get suspended for academics, for behavior, etc…
Rubio was suspended, not with the team. Then he was back with the team, but not practicing.
A player can be disciplined for a short amount of time for something he did, but the team still 100% support him & want him back once he has handled the situation.
It can be two things at once. Maybe he has a personal issue that caused him to make a mistake. The team understands and wants him back after it’s handled. It can be both.
All true. But this here (in bold) is my point/what I was asking.

If Rubio was indeed suspended by the program, that was never said publicly. The way it was framed was that he needed to take some time away (and away from campus b/c he was back home in Missouri for a semester, IIRC). Honestly I was under the impression it was a personal life thing or some sick relative or some such. Then he came back and all well.

It's different than under previous regimes where players would be suspended for violating various (unspecified) team rules, and that would be clearly stated. (Though not always. When I was a student in Davie years I knew of a player who developed a nagging hamstring injury while under investigation for sexual assault, but I digress...). Other programs also seem to routinely publicly suspend players, though that's often tied to criminal charges, which are harder to conceal.

All this is neither good nor bad, just makes it harder for us on the outside to actually have a sense of what's going on. Which is fine.
 

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I don’t like how saying next to. Nothing can lead to speculation of issues that are possibly much worse than reality. One starts to assume the worst. Criminal issues etc. would prefer to have it be academic issues. Something they can be tutored out of.
 

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All true. But this here (in bold) is my point/what I was asking.

If Rubio was indeed suspended by the program, that was never said publicly. The way it was framed was that he needed to take some time away (and away from campus b/c he was back home in Missouri for a semester, IIRC). Honestly I was under the impression it was a personal life thing or some sick relative or some such. Then he came back and all well.

It's different than under previous regimes where players would be suspended for violating various (unspecified) team rules, and that would be clearly stated. (Though not always. When I was a student in Davie years I knew of a player who developed a nagging hamstring injury while under investigation for sexual assault, but I digress...). Other programs also seem to routinely publicly suspend players, though that's often tied to criminal charges, which are harder to conceal.

All this is neither good nor bad, just makes it harder for us on the outside to actually have a sense of what's going on. Which is fine.
Agreed. Even though it gives us fans some cause for speculation, I love the way Freeman handles team business. It's on a need to know basis, and we clearly don't need to know.
 

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Agreed. Even though it gives us fans some cause for speculation, I love the way Freeman handles team business. It's on a need to know basis, and we clearly don't need to know.
You would think he could share if he is out for the season or not. Kid must get badgered if he’s still going to classes and asked what is going on!
 

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I don’t like how saying next to. Nothing can lead to speculation of issues that are possibly much worse than reality. One starts to assume the worst. Criminal issues etc. would prefer to have it be academic issues. Something they can be tutored out of.
I think there's probably a threshold at which they would say something publicly. An arrest, for instance, is public record and easily obtained by a reporter or whoever wants to go looking for it. No point in not disclosing that. Whereas if a player is having trouble academically that's not necessarily anyone's business.
 

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First Saturday I’ve had nothing to do in a long time. Tv is on, fireplace is going and sports are on tv. This is what our forefathers had in mind when they started this country. Time for another old fashion.
 
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