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Based on John Brice’s comments in yesterday’s podcast, Max Bullough will probably go to BC with O’Brien and O’Leary is still being courted by the Chargers.
Hopefully like we saw with Denbrock. Freeman now has a great succession plan for all positions in case we lose O'Leary. O'leary is obviously a very good coach, and has been picking it up on the recruiting side (early weakness).
 

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I’d be bummed to lose O’Leary and I suspect it would probably hurt the chances of landing Taylor. Not sure if he caught lightning in a bottle with Watts, but his development of other safeties not named Kyle Hamilton has been stellar too. They can certainly upgrade from him as a recruiter but that development will be tough to match. His skills may be better suited for the NFL, so good for him if he gets it
 

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My assumption is there is a short list for every assistant should he leave or be let go. We're settling into February now, however, and a lot of guys have already made significant moves.

ECU safety coach Tripp Weaver just took the Austin Peay DC job and WVU safety coach Dontae Wright just took the DC job at none other than....Troy. Two guys I really like that aren't necessarily off the board but took DC jobs nonetheless.

V'Angelo Bentley just went to Duke. Another young guy on the move.

These are just three guys that I keep tabs on. Marcus may have his guys out there too and maybe they haven't moved yet. If O'Leary dips, it's a great opportunity for someone to come in and be a part of Marcus Freeman's Notre Dame.
 
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My assumption is there is a short list for every assistant should he leave or be let go. We're settling into February now, however, and a lot of guys have already made significant moves.

ECU safety coach Tripp Weaver just took the Austin Peay DC job and WVY safety coach Dontae Wright just took the DC job at none other than....Troy. Two guys I really like that aren't necessarily off the board but took DC jobs nonetheless.

V'Angelo Bentley just went to Duke. Another young guy on the move.

These are just three guys that I keep tabs on. Marcus may have his guys out there too and maybe they haven't moved yet. If O'Leary dips, it's a great opportunity for someone to come in and be a part of Marcus Freeman's Notre Dame.
I'm just spitballing here, but I suppose it's also possible that Mickens would take over the full secondary and ND looks for a dedicated LB coach.
 

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I'm just spitballing here, but I suppose it's also possible that Mickens would take over the full secondary and ND looks for a dedicated LB coach.
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I like this path even better, actually.
 

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I won't pretend to know enough about secondary responsibilities or technique to know if safety quality would drop off. The only concern I would have is that when Mickens leaves we need to replace hin with another guy who can coach both positions.
 

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I won't pretend to know enough about secondary responsibilities or technique to know if safety quality would drop off. The only concern I would have is that when Mickens leaves we need to replace hin with another guy who can coach both positions.
it shouldn't be a concern. In fact, it's all but inevitable.

There are plenty of "secondary coaches" who would be on the market for Notre Dame who have the bandwidth to coach both CB and S.

If they went the way @Pops Freshenmeyer suggests, I hope maybe Chris Simpson gets a look. KU LB coach who is also their recruiting coordinator. He coached Khalil Hodge at Buffalo as well.

The dudes who have been around Leipold should be in high demand.
 

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I really hope we don't lose O'Leary. He has been outstanding. I can't imagine a world in which I would choose to work for Hairball instead of Freeman. The only advantage would be the weather and not having to recruit. I wonder if the pay bump would be significant. Anyone know if there are actually legs to this rumor?
 

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I really hope we don't lose O'Leary. He has been outstanding. I can't imagine a world in which I would choose to work for Hairball instead of Freeman. The only advantage would be the weather and not having to recruit. I wonder if the pay bump would be significant. Anyone know if there are actually legs to this rumor?

Harbaugh is a weirdo, but he’s a proven winner. And it’s the NFL. It’s not that hard to imagine.
 

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I really hope we don't lose O'Leary. He has been outstanding. I can't imagine a world in which I would choose to work for Hairball instead of Freeman. The only advantage would be the weather and not having to recruit. I wonder if the pay bump would be significant. Anyone know if there are actually legs to this rumor?
You're going to throw money at him in an effort to stall his career's upward mobility?

He's going to leave eventually. Many of these guys just have the ambition and don't want to coach safeties at Notre Dame for the rest of their lives. For you and I, that's a job we probably keep forever until we get fired or die. Not the case with the majority of the men in the profession.

Mentioned two guys above who left safety coach jobs at ECU and WVU to become DC at Austin Peay and Troy, respectively. This is exactly how it works. Not a ton of glory in those jobs, but as DC you now answer to the head coach only and you're on the path to something else if that's your ambition.

Notre Dame Football was fine without O'Leary before he got here and it'll be fine when he's gone.
 

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I really hope we don't lose O'Leary. He has been outstanding. I can't imagine a world in which I would choose to work for Hairball instead of Freeman. The only advantage would be the weather and not having to recruit. I wonder if the pay bump would be significant. Anyone know if there are actually legs to this rumor?

It's from Brice. It's not a rumor. It's not Harbaugh that's recruiting him as much as it's the DC Jesse Minter. They were together at Georgia State. I don't have the exact time stamps from the podcast but it sounds like ND has already beaten back a few attempts at him from the Chargers but they've yet to stop pushing for him.
 

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I know very little about the coaching process at ND, but wouldn't increasing the amount of players Mickens is responsible for be a potential detriment to the player? High player to coach ratio?

Wouldn't it be easier for Mickens to mentor until the new coach is ready?
 

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I know very little about the coaching process at ND, but wouldn't increasing the amount of players Mickens is responsible for be a potential detriment to the player? High player to coach ratio?

Wouldn't it be easier for Mickens to mentor until the new coach is ready?
You could make this argument for OL and DL as well, though, right? Split out the interior guys from the tackles and defensive ends on each side, respectively.

Mickens has never coached anything but CB. I have zero doubt he could handle taking on the entire secondary if tasked to him. Especially knowing the importance of linebackers in the Notre Dame defense, it could actually make the situation better going forward.

It seems like a lot of programs split the corners and safeties out now due to the high demands offenses now put on pass defense. There are still programs that will employ a single defensive backs coach, however. There also seems to be a good amount of DC who coach safeties as part of their job title.

Best case scenario is O'Leary hangs around for one more year, but the more success the program has, the more likely Marcus Freeman is going to have to jump onto the carousel. It's the nature of the game. You can't just keep giving guys pay raises and fake titles to make them run in place. O'Leary, Mickens, Washington, etc. most likely don't want to stay where they are at forever and certainly not for the convenience of fans.
 

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Guy hated everything that went into running a program in the NIL / autotransfer age
 

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Guy hated everything that went into running a program in the NIL / autotransfer age
It was striking enough last week when a P5 head coach quit to go be a coordinator in the NFL. But here's a P5 head coach quitting to go be a coordinator at another school in his own soon-to-be conference.

But the real question: Does Flores transfer back? 🙃
 

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Wow - that's crazy. I had a workmate tell this was happening this AM and I really thought he was nuts.

I really don't get this one.
 

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Everyone is looking at this from the Kelly lens, but from an OSU perspective, BoB was just meh and now you fill this void with the played out chipper? Yuck.
 

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Chip Kelly has been in the works on the way out for some time. As an OSU fan, I'd be a bit frustrated as he desperately wants out of the college game. He was close to being fired, and then he interviewed for multiple NFL OC jobs. Hard to imagine he's long for OSU. Big perception win for OSU, though.
 

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Pretty simple.

Chip is done with NIL and running a program

UCLA hated him and wanted him gone, but nothing they could do apparently
 

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Im guessing he’ll get paid around 1.5-2 million. He probably won’t be expected to recruit and lower taxes. Sort of make sense for him if the hc fire has burned out.
 
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