Skunkbear Signal Stealing Scandal

[stpeteirish]

Michigan should be banned from any playoff this year, all wins vacated from the last 3 years, banned from any playoffs for the next 3 years and lose 10 scholarships each year for the next 3 years.

And Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny are real

 

[NDFAN2008]

And Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny are real

Why shouldn’t they vacate wins the last 3 years?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

So bizarre. You know there are more twists and turns coming too.

 

[NDohio]

I would be shocked if there isn't some sort of paper trail on these purchased tickets. This guy wasn't paying for these tickets out of his own pocket. His expense reports are gonna be an interesting read for somebody.

 

[BeauBenken]

I would be shocked if there isn't some sort of paper trail on these purchased tickets. This guy wasn't paying for these tickets out of his own pocket. His expense reports are gonna be an interesting read for somebody.

They literally found him purchasing tickets under his own name at 30 games over the last couple of years.

 

[gregm83]

That playsheet of signals is very very very bad for them

 

[IRISHDODGER]

NCAA will probably take 3 years to come to a conclusion. In the meantime, scUM could win natty this season so even if they have to vacate wins & natty, they’ll still be thought of as 2023 NC.

 

[greyhammer90]

They literally found him purchasing tickets under his own name at 30 games over the last couple of years.

Sometimes on two sides of the field if they were both Michigan opponents lol

 

[Lberry]

Hm

 

[Irish#1]

 

[IrishSpartan]

Lol are people really going through his venmo

 

[NDPhilly]

Have to believe those laminated signing sheet are Michigan's. There's just no way they are that dumb...right?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

That playsheet of signals is very very very bad for them

Northwestern had a whiteboard with hazing tallies. In the locker room. In plain sight. Coaches claimed to not have a clue about any of it.

We currently reside in a world of very different norms than we used to ten years ago. That playsheet is as clear as day in those pictures, but Harbaugh and the coordinators will deny deny deny and nothing will happen. This is me being cynical, yes, but we have seen people in the public eye for many years now say water isn't wet, only to say ten minutes later they never said water isn't wet. And for the most part they're not called out on it.

It's the stupid times we live in. Harbaugh will claim he doesn't know anything about it and the NCAA, Big Ten and University of Michigan are going to say "Well, he says he didn't know."

 

[IrishLax]

Before enacting their elaborate Astros + Patriots level cheating scheme Michigan was mid.

After the scheme, they've dominated the Big Ten. The only team last year they couldn't cheat for? TCU.

People pretending this isn't a big deal are crazy. There is a difference between trying to get a read on a team during a game and systematically breaking the rules to get an edge.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Have to believe those laminated signing sheet are Michigan's. There's just no way they are that dumb...right?

They're far more brazen than dumb.

 

[stlnd01]

NCAA will probably take 3 years to come to a conclusion. In the meantime, scUM could win natty this season so even if they have to vacate wins & natty, they’ll still be thought of as 2023 NC.

Hopefully every school they cheated against demands the NCAA throw the book at them promptly. The entire Big Ten is hard to ignore.

 

[stlnd01]

Northwestern had a whiteboard with hazing tallies. In the locker room. In plain sight. Coaches claimed to not have a clue about any of it.



It's the stupid times we live in. Harbaugh will claim he doesn't know anything about it and the NCAA, Big Ten and University of Michigan are going to say "Well, he says he didn't know."

A key difference between this and Northwestern and most other NCAA violations is that this directly hurt (and cheated) other programs that have just as much standing with the NCAA as Michigan does. It’s not internal to their program. There are victims with big-time influence of their own.

Yes Michigan’s a big dog but do you think Ohio State and Penn State, for instance, won’t swing their weight around here?

 

[MacIrish75]

The most concerning thing for me on these Twitter threads is that there are far too many people out there who don’t know the difference between the words “lamented” and “laminated.”

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

The most concerning thing for me on these Twitter threads is that there are far too many people out there who don’t know the difference between the words “lamented” and “laminated.”

"Would of" instead of "would have" is my own personal hell.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Lol are people really going through his venmo

Well not anymore after he made his feed private

 

[zelezo vlk]

The most concerning thing for me on these Twitter threads is that there are far too many people out there who don’t know the difference between the words “lamented” and “laminated.”

At least 30% of this board cannot spell most of our players' and coaches' names correctly.

 

[HoustonNDFan]

I’m hoping as much as anybody that this turns into a dumpster fire for Michigan, but I wouldn’t latch onto the play callingsign sheet as any evidence. Those are likely for their own signs. Don’t think they would be flinging them around in plain sight if they were cheat sheets for the opponents (though they had a staffer who was dumb enough to use his own name when buying all the tickets so who knows).

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

A key difference between this and Northwestern and most other NCAA violations is that this directly hurt (and cheated) other programs that have just as much standing with the NCAA as Michigan does. It’s not internal to their program. There are victims with big-time influence of their own.

I understand the differences. My point is that the coaches at NU played totally dumb to what was happening in plain sight for years. On a whiteboard. In the locker room. The middle of the locker room. Where anyone with eyesight outside of Stevie Wonder could see it.

People at Michigan are going to deny in the same manner. Here's this twat on the sidelines in plain sight standing next to coordinators and he's holding laminated call sheets. Everyone is going to say they didn't know what he was doing and what was going on. This buy purchased tickets under his own name to opponent games. The evidence is beginning to mount more as the days go by, as it did against Northwestern, and they'll all still lie.

Cheat, Steal, Lie to the utmost. Even when you get caught, deny deny deny.

 

[NDohio]

They literally found him purchasing tickets under his own name at 30 games over the last couple of years.

Right, but I have a hard time believing that, even though he paid for these tickets up front, he didn't get reimbursed in some way - hence the expense report...

 

[zelezo vlk]

Right, but I have a hard time believing that, even though he paid for these tickets up front, that he didn't get reimbursed in some way - hence the expense report...

 

[Irish_Mickey]

If Michigan's alleged sign-stealing is as bad as it looks, Wolverines will pay a big price

"What Stalions allegedly and seemingly did was 100-percent intended to gain a competitive advantage that everyone in the sport understands is wrong. It violates even the lowest standard of ethics, it spits on sportsmanship and it’s just a cut-and-dried line you can’t cross.

There will be a big price to pay for Michigan and perhaps for a lot of people inside that program. But will it stop the Wolverines from winning the national championship this year? It’s difficult to see that happening unless the University of Michigan’s embarrassment is greater than its ambition."

 

[Henges24]

Well not anymore after he made his feed private

I'll check his MySpace next

 

[TheProspector]

I’m hoping as much as anybody that this turns into a dumpster fire for Michigan, but I wouldn’t latch onto the play callingsign sheet as any evidence. Those are likely for their own signs. Don’t think they would be flinging them around in plain sight if they were cheat sheets for the opponents (though they had a staffer who was dumb enough to use his own name when buying all the tickets so who knows).

Serious question but why would Michigan need a call sheet for their own signs?

The walkons and backup qbs who sign the plays in don’t use a play sheet to do so. They memorize them. I would think the coaches who devised the signs for the walkons to sign in would be able to memorize the signs if the 5th string qb can memorize them.

 

[MPClinton22]

I’m hoping as much as anybody that this turns into a dumpster fire for Michigan, but I wouldn’t latch onto the play callingsign sheet as any evidence. Those are likely for their own signs. Don’t think they would be flinging them around in plain sight if they were cheat sheets for the opponents (though they had a staffer who was dumb enough to use his own name when buying all the tickets so who knows).

And the pics of Conor on the sidelines show him clinging to his binder as tightly as possible, so I agree - whatever cheating happened, he was holding the fruits of very tightly to his chest

 

[Henges24]

Serious question but why would Michigan need a call sheet for their own signs?

The walkons and backup qbs who sign the plays in don’t use a play sheet to do so. They memorize them. I would think the coaches who devised the signs for the walkons to sign in would be able to memorize the signs if the 5th string qb can memorize them.

It could be a cheat sheet. No pun intended.
I agree with Houston's point. Just because someone found a photo with signs on it doesn't necessary mean it is the other team's signs. Yet, yes, it could be.
It's a classic misinformation sticky.