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IrishLion

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If you are gonna do RDR2 as a casual gamer you probably need a good 2-3 months I think


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RDR2 also gets my vote. If you're not planning on doing everything I don't think you'll need 2-3 months, but it just depends on how busy the wife and kids keep ya. You could skip a lot of camp upgrades and just knock out the missions in short order.

If I enjoy a game even a little bit, it becomes a quest for 100% completion, so I may end up playing RDR2 for a year based on what I know lol. I know the hunting challenges can be brutal, and it's a massive game in general. But if the trophy hunt involves multiplayer for the base platinum, though, I'll drop it once the story is over. I loathe multiplayer tie-in trophies that are necessary for a platinum. Could never get my platinum on Assassin's Creed: Black Flag because of stupid multiplayer trophies, same with NCAA14. Some dumb online dynasty trophies related to the dynasty website that you could use to do recruiting and other non-game related tasks, but I didn't pay attention to the trophy list when the IE dynasty was going strong, and now the servers for the dynasty website are dead, so no chance at getting it anymore.

I'm on the dad gaming schedule, so it's usually an hour or two at night, mayyyyybe three if I'm not dead tired, after the rest of the household is asleep, and then a little bit of extra time on the weekends if I'm caught up on house projects.
 

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Oh man,… I really would have played them in order,… oh well. Def go back, all things considered I liked the first one more. The suit that helps you cheat at poker alone was a huge bonus
 

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Oh man,… I really would have played them in order,… oh well. Def go back, all things considered I liked the first one more. The suit that helps you cheat at poker alone was a huge bonus

I’m still early enough that I’m debating it. Might even try to play them in tandem if the controls aren’t too different.

I got as far as the hunting mission in RDR2 the first time I attempted to play, and got as far as the mission where you have the shootout in the arroyo in the original game back when I tried to play that.

Both enjoyable, but tried to play both at busy times in my life I guess.
 

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Oh man,… I really would have played them in order,… oh well. Def go back, all things considered I liked the first one more. The suit that helps you cheat at poker alone was a huge bonus
I think it's hard to separate the two. Both do some things well. RDR2 has way more content, you can fire it up today and still find things you've never encountered before. On the other hand it's also tedious at times. At some points doing odd jobs and camp upgrades feels more like a chore, and while they're not required they can be a bit of a time sink. From a story perspective I feel like RDR is a bit better. RDR2 has more characters and arcs for sure, but damn...I don't think you can beat that ending in RDR. RDR2's was certainly tragic too, but I feel like you're...better prepared for it given the circumstances leading up to it.
 

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I think it's hard to separate the two. Both do some things well. RDR2 has way more content, you can fire it up today and still find things you've never encountered before. On the other hand it's also tedious at times. At some points doing odd jobs and camp upgrades feels more like a chore, and while they're not required they can be a bit of a time sink. From a story perspective I feel like RDR is a bit better. RDR2 has more characters and arcs for sure, but damn...I don't think you can beat that ending in RDR. RDR2's was certainly tragic too, but I feel like you're...better prepared for it given the circumstances leading up to it.
For me the add ons were a bit too shallow (camp upgrades and extra group members etc really stood out here) except for the hunting/clothing upgrades,… I thought RD was the greatest game I had ever played to that point,… 10/10 easy. 2 was a very good follow up but more of a 8/10
 

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Hot take: Both overrated.

Doesn't mean they're bad games, but I never understood the pedestal they're placed on. Both games felt like a lot of riding horses to get to missions that were often just OK. I also don't think Rockstar is good enough at writing to carry a narrative that lengthy.
 

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Hot take: Both overrated.

Doesn't mean they're bad games, but I never understood the pedestal they're placed on. Both games felt like a lot of riding horses to get to missions that were often just OK. I also don't think Rockstar is good enough at writing to carry a narrative that lengthy.
I would rather ride a horse through the desert than drive a super car through Liberty City/San Andreas. Vice City on the other hand...
There's just a certain charm and connection with the horse in those games. You have to catch (or buy it), you have to break it, pet and feed it, etc. Sometimes you have to painstakingly hunt and search out certain breeds to find the best one. If something kills my horse I get a little sad, and then I get pissed and things die. If someone blows up my car I'm still pissed, but I just get another.
 

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Hot take: Both overrated.

Doesn't mean they're bad games, but I never understood the pedestal they're placed on. Both games felt like a lot of riding horses to get to missions that were often just OK. I also don't think Rockstar is good enough at writing to carry a narrative that lengthy.
You know RD was a masterpiece.... I think the whole Seth story line just hit too close to home for ya,.....
 

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I would rather ride a horse through the desert than drive a super car through Liberty City/San Andreas. Vice City on the other hand...
There's just a certain charm and connection with the horse in those games. You have to catch (or buy it), you have to break it, pet and feed it, etc. Sometimes you have to painstakingly hunt and search out certain breeds to find the best one. If something kills my horse I get a little sad, and then I get pissed and things die. If someone blows up my car I'm still pissed, but I just get another.
I like RS games,... GTA and RD are both super fun for what they are,....
 

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I would rather ride a horse through the desert than drive a super car through Liberty City/San Andreas. Vice City on the other hand...
There's just a certain charm and connection with the horse in those games. You have to catch (or buy it), you have to break it, pet and feed it, etc. Sometimes you have to painstakingly hunt and search out certain breeds to find the best one. If something kills my horse I get a little sad, and then I get pissed and things die. If someone blows up my car I'm still pissed, but I just get another.

I don't necessarily disagree, because I think both are overrated series, but I think you're simplifying the greatest strength GTA has over RDR (its variety), and you're ignoring that the disposable nature of the cars actually helps that feeling.

In RDR, generally a horse feels like a horse. Even the fastest horse in the game still just feels like a horse after a few minutes riding it. You also ride the same horse for hours, which means that it feels even more repetitive.

In GTA there are tens (hundreds?) of cars. They all feel different, and you typically unlock access to the better ones as you work your way up through the world. There are also lots of motorcycles, boats, airplanes, helicopters, etc. All feel different to drive. It makes the chore of getting around the world much more engaging from a gameplay perspective than it is RDR, where there's not much to do other than say "This is really pretty holy shit" the whole time. Plus the disposable nature of the vehicles makes it much more likely that you're going to constantly be changing how you get around, which means the gameplay loop of "get to this spot on the map to watch a cut scene and do a mission" is more engaging. You typically spend a good portion of every trip across the map feeling out your new car, pushing the limits of your new car, and looking out to see if you can steal a better one on the way. RDR you're just galloping.
 

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I don't necessarily disagree, because I think both are overrated series, but I think you're simplifying the greatest strength GTA has over RDR (its variety), and you're ignoring that the disposable nature of the cars actually helps that feeling.

In RDR, generally a horse feels like a horse. Even the fastest horse in the game still just feels like a horse after a few minutes riding it. You also ride the same horse for hours, which means that it feels even more repetitive.

In GTA there are tens (hundreds?) of cars. They all feel different, and you typically unlock access to the better ones as you work your way up through the world. There are also lots of motorcycles, boats, airplanes, helicopters, etc. All feel different to drive. It makes the chore of getting around the world much more engaging from a gameplay perspective than it is RDR, where there's not much to do other than say "This is really pretty holy shit" the whole time. Plus the disposable nature of the vehicles makes it much more likely that you're going to constantly be changing how you get around, which means the gameplay loop of "get to this spot on the map to watch a cut scene and do a mission" is more engaging. You typically spend a good portion of the trip feeling out your new car, pushing the limits of your new car, and looking out to see if you can steal a better one on the way. RDR you're just galloping.
Its a Western. I believe they galloped a lot. It sounds like you just don't like the setting, not the developer.
 

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Its a Western. I believe they galloped a lot. It sounds like you just don't like the setting, not the developer.

I'm just responding to a comment made that horse riding in RDR was preferable to car driving in GTA with my own opinion. I think from a gameplay perspective, it's not. I'm not really complaining about "galloping", I'm complaining about holding A and pressing forward.

Acting like horse riding has to feel like it does in RDR is reductive. There are lots of ways to deal with this without changing the setting. You could make riding harder or make it more realistic so you're having to really carefully consider the terrain a la Death Stranding (you could even lean heavier into the survival gameplay and get yourself in serious trouble if you're out in the wild with a lame horse). You could put in some sort of mini game within the riding (think the quick reload bonus in Gears) that tests the players dexterity or timing in exhange for a speed bonus. You could maybe not make the map absurdly big just to flex your technological muscle at the expense of me being bored of being asked to ride across the state for the 5th mission in a row.
 

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My PC is 7 years old now. and I will be wanting to build a new one. Any ideas?

Further, I will be wanting an Xbox for when NCAA comes out. Is there a real difference between the S and the X if all I want it for is FIFA, NCAA, etc? I do most of my "serious" gaming on PC.

Also...Cities Skylines sequel comes out this year!
 

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My PC is 7 years old now. and I will be wanting to build a new one. Any ideas?

Further, I will be wanting an Xbox for when NCAA comes out. Is there a real difference between the S and the X if all I want it for is FIFA, NCAA, etc? I do most of my "serious" gaming on PC.

Also...Cities Skylines sequel comes out this year!

PC I'm not sure about. I built my rig about 5 years ago and haven't been keeping up. Good luck is all I'll say there.

I think there's a new 1 TB Series S coming out soon. That might be your best bet if all you'll be playing is NCAA and FIFA.
 

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My PC is 7 years old now. and I will be wanting to build a new one. Any ideas?

Further, I will be wanting an Xbox for when NCAA comes out. Is there a real difference between the S and the X if all I want it for is FIFA, NCAA, etc? I do most of my "serious" gaming on PC.

Also...Cities Skylines sequel comes out this year!

I literally just ordered parts to buy a new rig yesterday. It had been a minute since I did a new build. I tend to buy parts from a year or two ago, stuff that was top of the line or at least decent at release, but on discount today. That's served me well, my computer has been running most games at Medium settings or better even today and the processor is almost 12 years old (One of the first AMD 8 cores) and the GPU is the nVidia 10 series from 7 years ago.

This is what I went with personally. I spent a bit more than I normally have on a build. I could have saved $100 on the board if I stuck with DDR 4 RAM, but I decided to go with the newer DDR 5. The GPU was a bit more than I usually spend too since I usually go with the entry level cards for $150ish, but I went with a midrange.

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I haven't used an AMD video card in a dog's age, but I read that with the new Ryzen processors the AMD GPUs are more efficient. An nVidia card will work just fine with them, it's just a benefit. I figured I'd try one this go around and see what happens. From what I read that generation of AMD video cards performed much better than the Nvidia 3000s series cards when it came to heat and energy efficiency while only giving up marginal ground to Nvidia when it came to performance/framerate. The newer cards, the Nvidia 4000 series, are supposed to be better I guess than the newer AMD, but I didn't feel like paying for them.

Felt like a good time to do an upgrade. I just installed Windows 11 on a new hard drive a few weeks ago and my old rig didn't have the "TPM 2.0" requirement available that's supposed to be required for motherboards for Windows 11. There's a registry trick to get around that, but I used it as a good excuse to finally upgrade my computer. The 5000 series Ryzens have just started coming down in price, so it's a good time to go that route if you want to save a buck. RAM is cheap, and SSD's have been getting cheaper again too if need a new hard drive. I spent about $100 for that new 2TB SSD, a few years ago that's what the 1 TB were going for.
 

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Finally getting around to building my first rig.


Thinking about doing this. I want something high end that will last a while. I think I will be staying away from the AMD 3XD’s for now and just stick with getting a 7700x. Any critiques or inputs are welcome.
 

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My PC is 7 years old now. and I will be wanting to build a new one. Any ideas?

Further, I will be wanting an Xbox for when NCAA comes out. Is there a real difference between the S and the X if all I want it for is FIFA, NCAA, etc? I do most of my "serious" gaming on PC.

Also...Cities Skylines sequel comes out this year!
Why a xbox instead of the superior PS5?
 
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Finally getting around to building my first rig.


Thinking about doing this. I want something high end that will last a while. I think I will be staying away from the AMD 3XD’s for now and just stick with getting a 7700x. Any critiques or inputs are welcome.
If you're near a micro center check it out. They have a really deal for some free ram with the 7700x. Also id look at 7900xtx vs 4070ti. You can find one at similar price point as the 4070ti but with much better performance and higher vram which is helping a lot in higher end games right now.
 

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Probably doesn't want an ivory sculpture of a vagina in his living room.

Dark plates help…

Tucking it into the side of the entertainment center where no one will see it is even better lol

(Seriously though, unless you want a PS exclusive, a Series S is the way to go for casual gaming)
 

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If you're near a micro center check it out. They have a really deal for some free ram with the 7700x. Also id look at 7900xtx vs 4070ti. You can find one at similar price point as the 4070ti but with much better performance and higher vram which is helping a lot in higher end games right now.
Is the xtx that much of a better option?
 

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Dark plates help…

Tucking it into the side of the entertainment center where no one will see it is even better lol

(Seriously though, unless you want a PS exclusive, a Series S is the way to go for casual gaming)

I've almost bought a PS5 a few times but every time I almost pull the trigger I think about explaining to my wife that this huge white thing is going on our entertainment center and decide I can wait for the slim version lol.
 

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My PC is 7 years old now. and I will be wanting to build a new one. Any ideas?

Further, I will be wanting an Xbox for when NCAA comes out. Is there a real difference between the S and the X if all I want it for is FIFA, NCAA, etc? I do most of my "serious" gaming on PC.

Also...Cities Skylines sequel comes out this year!

4070ti, 64GB DDR5, i9 13th gen - juice it out. You'll use a desktop more than a PS5/Xbox since you can work from home on it and never have server issues when Karen is running an i3 trying to send you a message on microsoft teams.
 
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Is the xtx that much of a better option?
It performs on par in most and out performs the 4080 in most games. A lot of new games aren't optimized great for PC and have been chewing threw vram. For me the 24gb on the xtx would be worth it
 

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It performs on par in most and out performs the 4080 in most games. A lot of new games aren't optimized great for PC and have been chewing threw vram. For me the 24gb on the xtx would be worth it
The only problem is there is only one white model
 
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The only problem is there is only one white model
Where are you looking to purchase from? There's a bunch of different models. Amazon has multiple models for sale and you can purchase directly from amd.com for their branded one as well. You can pm if you need. I used to build them professionally and work in server admin now.
 
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