Russia Invades Ukraine

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Ukraine hit Moscow with drone strikes and Ukraine linked Russian Separatists launched raids into Russia proper. That forces Moscow to move air defense resources off the front and into the country as well as forces from Ukraine back to defend the border.

I'm guessing this is a prelude to the offensive.
 

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Ukraine hit Moscow with drone strikes and Ukraine linked Russian Separatists launched raids into Russia proper. That forces Moscow to move air defense resources off the front and into the country as well as forces from Ukraine back to defend the border.

I'm guessing this is a prelude to the offensive.
Makes sense. I just like the drones flying over affluent Moscow neighborhoods bit. Well done.
 

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Well played Ukraine! War gets real fast when it hits closer to home.
 

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Ukraine denies they sent the drones. Lol

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Well played DoD.



It took a few hours but twitter put a disclaimer up. Those weapons predate the Ukraine war. Turns out cartels have been swimming in this stuff for quite some time. Also turns out the translation is innacurate. Might check your sources next time.

 

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It took a few hours but twitter put a disclaimer up. Those weapons predate the Ukraine war. Turns out cartels have been swimming in this stuff for quite some time. Also turns out the translation is innacurate. Might check your sources next time.


Glad for Twitter Community notes. They've come a long way in the last year.
 

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The Russian sources are starting to explain to their audience that they are victoriously retreating to superior defensive positions.

Ukraine also hasn't committed most of their new armor/units. If Ukraine can break through the main defensive lines this is going to Kharkiv on steroids.
 

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The Russian sources are starting to explain to their audience that they are victoriously retreating to superior defensive positions.

Ukraine also hasn't committed most of their new armor/units. If Ukraine can break through the main defensive lines this is going to Kharkiv on steroids.
Love it.

Can’t wait to hear Bobby’s take in this.
 

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The Russian sources are starting to explain to their audience that they are victoriously retreating to superior defensive positions.

Ukraine also hasn't committed most of their new armor/units. If Ukraine can break through the main defensive lines this is going to Kharkiv on steroids.
Sounds like they hired Don Draper to do their marketing, genius!
 

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Lots of freezing cold takes in the first twenty pages of this thread lol.

I'm sure glad no one listened to the armchair generals that kept saying Ukraine was unjust for continuing to fight a war it couldn't possibly win.
 

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Lots of freezing cold takes in the first twenty pages of this thread lol.

I'm sure glad no one listened to the armchair generals that kept saying Ukraine was unjust for continuing to fight a war it couldn't possibly win.
I'll admit that I didn't think they had much of a chance, but I never thought they shouldn't fight on and go down swinging. Nobody's happier to see them bloodying the bear's nose.
 

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Somebody better be getting fired.


Maybe, but probably not. Depreciation of assets was not calculated in the cost of the assets provide to Ukraine. DoD used replacement costs when calculating the value of what was given.

Clown World can be dubious all he wants. It's an accounting error. We aren't just giving them cash.
 

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I see some of you are still holding out hope that thousands of more Ukrainians and Russians die in order for Ukraine to win this war. The sad thing is the west and Russia seem hell bent on accomplishing that and the public seems to be cheering it on rather than trying to make both sides come to a table and negotiate. How far has the Ukrainian offensive gotten, a few kilometers and at what cost? This whole thing is sickening and the fact that there are Americans cheering this massacre on like Ukraine is actually going to win. Best case scenario is this ends in a stalemate and eventually there is a diplomatic solution to save lives. Worst case scenario Ukraine is turned into a third world country and loses the majority of its 18 - 22 year olds.

Just a friendly reminder without Russia we would all be speaking German right now. How many million Russians were killed in WWII? You really think they are going to back down in any way? This is either going to grind on for years with thousands more dead and billions lost or people are going to realize the only resolution to this is a diplomatic one.

 

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Telephone rings.......
Hello, this is Joe Biden.
Jim Taiclet: Joe, This is Jim from Lockheed Martin. I'm sitting in a room with my friends from L3Harris, Raytheon, Northrup Grumman and General Dynamics. They all say hello. Listen, we want to pump up our stocks. We need for you to send a bunch of your military equipment over to Zelensky. Then you can order replacements and we can ramp up production and make more money.
Biden: No problem Jim. Anything to help out the military industrial complex.

Thats not how it works but keep believing the US isn't controlled by the military industrial complex. How much do we spend on the military again while American infrastructure crumbles? How come in every aspect of American life is falling further and further behind but we always have trillions for killing foreigners? You focus on this bs war, that should have never been if the west didnt fund a coup in 2014, while more and more of our rights are stripped from us at home. While more and more of American resources are shipped out of the country not to create or build up but to kill and destroy. Keep making shitty jokes about the slaughter of thousands and shitting on people who actually who actually try to discuss these things because thats all you got to distract from the truth. Thousands upon thousands are dying and suffering for nothing just like every other war.
 

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I see some of you are still holding out hope that thousands of more Ukrainians and Russians die in order for Ukraine to win this war. The sad thing is the west and Russia seem hell bent on accomplishing that and the public seems to be cheering it on rather than trying to make both sides come to a table and negotiate. How far has the Ukrainian offensive gotten, a few kilometers and at what cost? This whole thing is sickening and the fact that there are Americans cheering this massacre on like Ukraine is actually going to win. Best case scenario is this ends in a stalemate and eventually there is a diplomatic solution to save lives. Worst case scenario Ukraine is turned into a third world country and loses the majority of its 18 - 22 year olds.

Just a friendly reminder without Russia we would all be speaking German right now. How many million Russians were killed in WWII? You really think they are going to back down in any way? This is either going to grind on for years with thousands more dead and billions lost or people are going to realize the only resolution to this is a diplomatic one.

Why should Ukraine have to negotiate over anything? Withdraw, simple solution.
 

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I see some of you are still holding out hope that thousands of more Ukrainians and Russians die in order for Ukraine to win this war. The sad thing is the west and Russia seem hell bent on accomplishing that and the public seems to be cheering it on rather than trying to make both sides come to a table and negotiate. How far has the Ukrainian offensive gotten, a few kilometers and at what cost? This whole thing is sickening and the fact that there are Americans cheering this massacre on like Ukraine is actually going to win. Best case scenario is this ends in a stalemate and eventually there is a diplomatic solution to save lives. Worst case scenario Ukraine is turned into a third world country and loses the majority of its 18 - 22 year olds.

Just a friendly reminder without Russia we would all be speaking German right now. How many million Russians were killed in WWII? You really think they are going to back down in any way? This is either going to grind on for years with thousands more dead and billions lost or people are going to realize the only resolution to this is a diplomatic one.

Russia is more than able to return to respecting Ukraine's borders as agreed upon in 1994, like right now. This instant Putin could say, "you know all that talk about returning Russia to it pre-soviet borders, I changed my mind, not going to work towards that anymore" and the war in Ukraine would be over rather quickly.
 

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Russia is more than able to return to respecting Ukraine's borders as agreed upon in 1994, like right now. This instant Putin could say, "you know all that talk about returning Russia to it pre-soviet borders, I changed my mind, not going to work towards that anymore" and the war in Ukraine would be over rather quickly.

"This war would be over if the party in the wrong just conceded" Someone takes your wallet they should say sorry and give it back. So simple and the right thing to do, why doesn't life work that way?
 

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I see some of you are still holding out hope that thousands of more Ukrainians and Russians die in order for Ukraine to win this war. The sad thing is the west and Russia seem hell bent on accomplishing that and the public seems to be cheering it on rather than trying to make both sides come to a table and negotiate. How far has the Ukrainian offensive gotten, a few kilometers and at what cost? This whole thing is sickening and the fact that there are Americans cheering this massacre on like Ukraine is actually going to win. Best case scenario is this ends in a stalemate and eventually there is a diplomatic solution to save lives. Worst case scenario Ukraine is turned into a third world country and loses the majority of its 18 - 22 year olds.

Just a friendly reminder without Russia we would all be speaking German right now. How many million Russians were killed in WWII? You really think they are going to back down in any way? This is either going to grind on for years with thousands more dead and billions lost or people are going to realize the only resolution to this is a diplomatic one.

Nobody is cheering the loss of life, but if you want to point a finger, point it towards the Kremlin. Putin is the one who started it.

BTW, if Germany hadn’t started WWII, Stalin had designs on expanding west.
 
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