'21 CA QB Tyler Buchner (ND FB -> Bama FB -> ND LAX???)

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PigtownIrish said:
Do we hang on to his sister as a soccer recruit after all of this drama?
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? A women's soccer player costs us nothing. (unless she's on scholarship I suppose). Either way it's not her fault. And "all this drama" started like three hours ago.
 
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OhioIrish said:
He just isn’t. Doesn’t have the arm, doesn’t have the head, doesn’t have the intangibles. He needs to play at a level where he can rely on his raw physical gifts, that’s not Power 5. He might be able to pull that off in the MWC or MAC.
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You learned this when? He looked pretty good last time we saw him play an actual game.
 
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OhioIrish said:
He did? Ok. I assume I watch the same games you watch and I could have sworn he threw 3 Ints, 2 of which were Pick-6s. 😂😂. You do you though. I’ll be over here with actual expectations.
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He had 5 touchdowns. Not sure why you list pick sixes separate from interceptions. Anyways, one was a tipped pass. Whether that was something he did wrong or not, i don't know.. I dont recall the other two.

But the offense put up 45 points and he played a very big role in that. Pretty good performance for a guy who hadn't played in three months. Lot to be excited about with him.

Maybe he leaves and struggles. Maybe he leaves and thrives. Maybe he stays and struggles. Maybe he stays and thrives.
 
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stlnd01 said:
? A women's soccer player costs us nothing. (unless she's on scholarship I suppose). Either way it's not her fault. And "all this drama" started like three hours ago.
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Maybe not. Someone tweeted Greg at ISD and was saying that he started dropping classes weeks ago.

I have no clue how accurate that is at all.
 
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TheRealLynch51 said:
This video gave me ear AIDS. I made it like 3 minutes in. Goolsby is just a stupid human being and Tim Hyde is a candy ass. The backup QB transferring is a "real kicker for this season?" You serious Clark?
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Can confirm. But that's par for the course at BGI, it seems.
 
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sfk324 said:
The butt hurt from Goolsby (and to a lesser degree Hyde) is hilarious. They are so convinced that they are right that rather than reassess,

Can confirm. But that's par for the course at BGI, it seems.
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I mean, they come from a different time where transfers were rare/frowned upon unless transferring down a division. I get it.
 
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Goldsby is dumb Buchner I’m sorry he’s a great kid but he just doesn’t have it he’s not good enough to win a National title for us. Maybe we woulda went 8-5 this year or 9-4 but with Hartman I like our chances of going 11-1
 
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NorthDakota said:
I mean, they come from a different time where transfers were rare/frowned upon unless transferring down a division. I get it.
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I forgot I had started typing my own reaction to only being able to tolerate 3 minutes of that video. But long and short of it is that it's just such a dumb mindset devoid of logic and reason. You can't count on Buchner to stay healthy. It's unfortunate, but it's true. So you need to go to the portal because what you had wasn't good enough (sorry Drew, you played hard, but facts is facts) or couldn't stay healthy enough (sorry Tyler).

So now you're set on taking a transfer. Taking a non-grad transfer is a bad idea because now you risk losing Minchey and/or Carr. So in that scenario, sorry again Drew and Tyler. You can try to compete for the job and work on getting better, or you can move on.
 
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What a pussy move! Hartman looked "hands down" better than Buchner in the Spring game, without being near as familiar with the WR's and TE's, or the playbook as Buchner. WTF! Hartman has only one year left and now Buchner's not willing to stick with it at ND?!? Que sera, sera, so go down and sit on Tommy's lap at Bama and suck on his nipple! Next in line .... Steve Angeli!!! Get Minchey ready for 2024!!
 
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NDWarrior said:
I've been meaning to mention this about Buchner. This is gonna sound strange but as someone who has studied this area extensively and is affected by these same issues, I can see that Buchner likely has airway/disordered breathing issues that (can't get into the details here) affect his entire body and mental makeup, the three most important of which are executive decision making, proper nose breathing and optimized skeletal structure: 1) He looks to be a mouth-breather - mouth is always open and probably is a shallow breather; 2) You can see his nervous, stream of consciousness thought process when he speaks to reporters compared to say Hartman; 3) he is clumsy (remember his stairs injury) and is easily injured; and 4) as a number of IE posters mentioned, he's nervous and "not composed" or "doesn't have mental toughness," etc. when he is in the pocket so he tends to tuck and run and not hang in for his progressions. This is a real thing and many people are affected by this but the individual just thinks "this is how I am," but it's not an optimized state of functioning. Sure, TB has the measurables/arm skills and is smart in other ways and is truly a "warrior," and with A LOT of work/coaching/development, he may develop and get better (and he'll have his moments like the '22 Bowl game), but he doesn't have the natural QB attributes, presence, and focus, and it will always be a challenge for him to be consistent and truly excel at QB. I could be wrong, but you just don't see the things I outlined here in star QBs. And I would say that the other ND QBs (and JJ McCarthy) don't have these issues and instead have more natural executive presence and decision-making abilities. Bryce Young is a perfect example of maybe not the most physically blessed QB, but he has the presence and focus to become a star NFL QB like Russell Wilson, another undersized but hyper-focused QB in this mold. Just my two cents anyway.
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I need details bro.
 
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The starting QB was resolved at the B&G game, stats don't lie:
Hartman: 13-16, 189 yards, 2 TD's, 1 rushing TD, longest pass 46 yards
Buchner: 8-18, 44 yards, 1 INT, longest pass 15 yards (with the better receivers)
Angeli: 8-12, 72 yards, longest pass 19 yards

Buchner really needs another year like 2021. I was surprised how he played in the Marshall game vs. how he played vs. South Carolina.
 
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irishandy said:
The starting QB was resolved at the B&G game, stats don't lie:
Hartman: 13-16, 189 yards, 2 TD's, 1 rushing TD, longest pass 46 yards
Buchner: 8-18, 44 yards, 1 INT, longest pass 15 yards (with the better receivers)
Angeli: 8-12, 72 yards, longest pass 19 yards

Buchner really needs another year like 2021. I was surprised how he played in the Marshall game vs. how he played vs. South Carolina.
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Marshall D was way better than South Carolina due to so many deflections
 
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NorthDakota said:
Its my understanding that entering the portal is a sort of "burn the boats" moment. Maybe im wrong.
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The only recruit I can remember entering the portal and then coming back is Houston Griffith. That was probably because he didn’t have other options.
 
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