2023 NFL Draft

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Young's size has to give any GM pause. I love the guy. He was my team's QB and his brain and arm are top-notch, but being 5' 10" makes him vulnerable.
I think his weight makes him even more vulnerable. I know he weighed in at 203 at the combine, but his playing weight was much closer to 183 (you would know better than I.) How did he put on 20lbs in 2 months? Is most of it water weight?
 

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I think his weight makes him even more vulnerable. I know he weighed in at 203 at the combine, but his playing weight was much closer to 183 (you would know better than I.) How did he put on 20lbs in 2 months? Is most of it water weight?
I think he was playing in the 185-190 range, but yeah, he obviously bulked up some for the combine. No idea if it was all weights or water or what.
 

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Article headline on IndyStar.com kind of implied the Bears asking price was too steep for the Colts. I don’t subscribe so I couldn’t read the article.
 

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Article headline on IndyStar.com kind of implied the Bears asking price was too steep for the Colts. I don’t subscribe so I couldn’t read the article.

It’s likely. Especially if the Bears think there’s any likelihood of Will Anderson being gone by 4. The next group of prospects are mostly grading out as similar from my understanding so why not get significantly more to trade down to 9?


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The Colts apparently had a similar offer as the Panthers but the difference is the Bears we’re trying to add Pittman to the deal and Colts backed out.
 

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The Colts apparently had a similar offer as the Panthers but the difference is the Bears we’re trying to add Pittman to the deal and Colts backed out.

That would be weird if true. Michael Pittman is definitely replaceable. Surprised they’d get hung up on that.
 

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I agree except about Young. Didn’t he weigh in at 203? He processes things faster than the others and that’s what separates him from the other three IMO.

Richardson is a project.

Levis has the arm strength but that’s it.

He weighed in at 204 but 15lbs of that was water. 8 from the gallon of water he drank the hour leading up to the weigh in.
 

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That would be weird if true. Michael Pittman is definitely replaceable. Surprised they’d get hung up on that.
They don’t have anybody else. Pierce is in his 2nd year and Campbell is a free agent. Teams doubled Pittman all last year, but if he gets single coverage, he’s pretty good.
 

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They don’t have anybody else. Pierce is in his 2nd year and Campbell is a free agent. Teams doubled Pittman all last year, but if he gets single coverage, he’s pretty good.
Yeah, if they threw in Pittman the WR group would be pretty much depleted. Pierce was up and down this year. He may turn into a good receiver but he’s not #1 caliber.

That would make resigning Campbell a must.
 

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Reference in The Athletic mentions the Colts trading two 1st’s to the Ravens for Jackson.
 

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Reference in The Athletic mentions the Colts trading two 1st’s to the Ravens for Jackson.
That makes Indy an incredibly interesting team. Would the OC and Jackson mesh well? What else would the Colts have to add to be a serious contender? I rarely watch NFL, outside of the Super Bowl so curious what all you NFL diehards think.
 

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In my opinion, CJ Stroud is the top QB prospect and my a wide margin.

Will Levis is the 2023 version of Mitch Trubisky. Wasn’t a winner at the college level. Will play, to some extent, in the NFL. Will get his coach fired in year 2 or 3.

Bryce Young is so small. Historically, Alabama QB’s don’t do well in the NFL. The arm talent is there, but I’m not sure he’ll hold up physically.

Anthony Richardson is/was the guy that blows up at the combine. It happens every year. Anyone who watches college football knows that he’s a long shot to be a successful pro QB. Incredibly risky to take him in the top 10.
I am inclined to agree with this, but if a GM is worried about how Alabama QBs historically do, you have to take some pause on Ohio State QBs as well. Fields may prove that trend wrong (I hope he does) and I think Stroud is going to as well.
 

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That makes Indy an incredibly interesting team. Would the OC and Jackson mesh well? What else would the Colts have to add to be a serious contender? I rarely watch NFL, outside of the Super Bowl so curious what all you NFL diehards think.
Colts need to shore up the O-line. LT was a disaster and Kelly at C didn’t play well last season. He’s been hurt a lot the last two seasons.
 

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I am inclined to agree with this, but if a GM is worried about how Alabama QBs historically do, you have to take some pause on Ohio State QBs as well. Fields may prove that trend wrong (I hope he does) and I think Stroud is going to as well.
If a GM is worried about the history of a position from a particular college, that person should not be a GM.
 

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Read online that the Colts might swap with AZ giving up a later pick this year and their second next year.
 

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Listening on the radio, it sounds like the Panthers owner likes Richardson and has involved himself in the draft talks. I have no idea how credible the info is, but that would be a shock if they took him.
 

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Listening on the radio, it sounds like the Panthers owner likes Richardson and has involved himself in the draft talks. I have no idea how credible the info is, but that would be a shock if they took him.
Tepper the worst owner in sports and that includes Snyder
 

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Listening on the radio, it sounds like the Panthers owner likes Richardson and has involved himself in the draft talks. I have no idea how credible the info is, but that would be a shock if they took him.
Excellent!

Draft him at one and go 2-15 and the Bears get the #1 pick again!
 

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Listening on the radio, it sounds like the Panthers owner likes Richardson and has involved himself in the draft talks. I have no idea how credible the info is, but that would be a shock if they took him.
From what I have been reading, he won The Combine in terms of the off the field part. Just had outstanding interviews with everyone that talked to him. Then he did all of the physical stuff incredibly well on top of that.

I just think there is a ton of work to do with his game from the neck up and from the knees down. So much of his inaccuracy issues are due to his footwork and he was only a starter for one season. Carolina or anyone else is going to have to give him time to really come along before they throw him up against NFL defenses.
 

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Hate to tell you that the Bears are getting the #1 pick anyway
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Hate to tell you that the Bears are getting the #1 pick anyway
I don't think they're repeating last year. That division is wide open with Rodgers leaving. I don't see them being nearly what they were last year. Their window to win starts next year so if they're picking #1 again because of their pick, it was a massive failure.
 

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I don't think they're repeating last year. That division is wide open with Rodgers leaving. I don't see them being nearly what they were last year. Their window to win starts next year so if they're picking #1 again because of their pick, it was a massive failure.
I’d believe you if it was Fields leaving rather than Rodgers
 

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From what I have been reading, he won The Combine in terms of the off the field part. Just had outstanding interviews with everyone that talked to him. Then he did all of the physical stuff incredibly well on top of that.

I just think there is a ton of work to do with his game from the neck up and from the knees down. So much of his inaccuracy issues are due to his footwork and he was only a starter for one season. Carolina or anyone else is going to have to give him time to really come along before they throw him up against NFL defenses.
Yeah, he graded out one of the top two or three highest ever, but you're right about the development. This is where teams kill themselves all the time. Drafting on potential, particularly at QB. Someone also questioned his statement about the receivers needing to catch the ball when they asked about his low completion percentage. Quick way to lose the locker room.
 

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Yeah, he graded out one of the top two or three highest ever, but you're right about the development. This is where teams kill themselves all the time. Drafting on potential, particularly at QB. Someone also questioned his statement about the receivers needing to catch the ball when they asked about his low completion percentage. Quick way to lose the locker room.
I've seen a lot of his snaps. A lot.

He throws the ball low, high, behind guys. He's all over the place.
 

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I don't think they're repeating last year. That division is wide open with Rodgers leaving. I don't see them being nearly what they were last year. Their window to win starts next year so if they're picking #1 again because of their pick, it was a massive failure.
They're really going for it hence the LB signings and trading back. I'd be shocked if they weren't a markedly improved team last year. Also, they lost some close games down the stretch. One would think with another offseason under their belts and some new talent, those could turn into W's.
 
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The Bears had the best possible season last year. They competed hard with replacement level players and lost close games to get the first overall pick while developing key young talent (Fields) who are part of the long term plan.

Rodgers might be gone but Vikings and Lions remain.
 
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