Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

[Irish#1]

Cerrato was calling kids on a BRICK* from the sidelines telling them what the next play was and having them talk to players on the sideline. He was revolutionary and ahead of the game. No idea what he would do to get a leg up like that today.

*I think he had either a couple phones or a couple batteries ready to go to switch out for the calls.

Group Face Time. Get them bonding together while selling the excitement.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Group Face Time. Get them bonding together while selling the excitement.

I think BK teams and staff get plenty of bondage time at lsu.

 

[Bishop2b5]

hoping they are all out on the street and at least have a good video to remember their moments.

A Tennessee police department said to the LSU folks, "Hold my beer."

Tennessee cops, including married female officer, fired after repeated wild sex romps

 

[sixstar]

Nah, that's closer to Vandy.

UT fans can claim buttchugging as their own, though.

 

[ND87]

IIRC, Weis was the one who finally got a training table at ND.

What are some other off the field triumphs coaches have had in making the program more competitive in the modern world?

I’m genuinely curious who is responsible for what in terms of where the program is from a positive contribution standpoint, not trying to flame any coaches.


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I never understand this.
One of my suitemates in '83 was a walk on and they had Training Table back then@

 

[IRISHDODGER]

ND offered Meyer half the AAV of Florida and on a shorter contract, to boot (on the heels of firing a coach after 3 years which included a BCS bowl appearance).

Exactly. People had no problem w/ UF firing Zook before the end of his 3rd season but when ND fires Willingham after 3 seasons, they’re racist.

 

[china423]

 

[ulukinatme]

Wasnt' he doing Tik Tok's with Kelly this time last year?

 

[Irishdrunk]

Wasnt' he doing Tik Tok's with Kelly this time last year?

This is what happens when you keep a QB Room very full and never stop recruiting. It’s fair warning not to fall in love with any QB prospect if you want ND to keep their room relentlessly full like BK is doing at LSU.

Similarly I don’t care if Buchner or Carr are the starters over the next few years. I just care that the coaches at ND have at least TWO QBs that can get us to a decent Bowl or CFP.

 

[irish4ever]

This is what happens when you keep a QB Room very full and never stop recruiting. It’s fair warning not to fall in love with any QB prospect if you want ND to keep their room relentlessly full like BK is doing at LSU.

Similarly I don’t care if Buchner or Carr are the starters over the next few years. I just care that the coaches at ND have at least TWO QBs that can get us to a decent Bowl or CFP.

Ditto that! Hartman/Buchner next yr., then Buchner/Minchey, then Minchey/Carr, then Carr/???

 

[dublinirish]

 

[NDdomer2]

honestly this has always been his strength. He is an asset to an organization its just generally not in an on field coaching role.

 

[irishog77]

Scott Booker's phone bout to blow the fuck up

 

[forkbeard3777]

LSU fan (and a Notre Dame fan) here -- you can see more about my background and my admiration for the University of Notre Dame in my initial post on Irishenvy on page 11 of the "Gameday/Notre Dame for Visitors, and First Timers" thread. I'm making my first trip to Notre Dame this fall and I am absolutely ecstatic.

That said, I'm surprised to see at 110 page thread on this. However, I'm happy to field any questions that you may have in regard to Kelly and LSU.

Geaux Tigers / Go Irish.

 

[irishog77]

LSU fan (and a Notre Dame fan) here -- you can see more about my background and my admiration for the University of Notre Dame in my initial post on Irishenvy on page 11 of the "Gameday/Notre Dame for Visitors, and First Timers" thread. I'm making my first trip to Notre Dame this fall and I am absolutely ecstatic.

That said, I'm surprised to see at 110 page thread on this. However, I'm happy to field any questions that you may have in regard to Kelly and LSU.

Geaux Tigers / Go Irish.

Does BK hog down on regular brisket, or just burnt ends?

What's his golf handicap?

 

[sfk324]

LSU fan (and a Notre Dame fan) here -- you can see more about my background and my admiration for the University of Notre Dame in my initial post on Irishenvy on page 11 of the "Gameday/Notre Dame for Visitors, and First Timers" thread. I'm making my first trip to Notre Dame this fall and I am absolutely ecstatic.

That said, I'm surprised to see at 110 page thread on this. However, I'm happy to field any questions that you may have in regard to Kelly and LSU.

Geaux Tigers / Go Irish.

It's 110 pages because it contains over a year's worth of posts covering a variety of topics including (but not limited to) laughing at him grinding up on high school recruits, the loss to FSU, shitting the bed against a bad A&M team in typical Big Game BK fashion, the popcorn consumption from the high school level drama surrounding his divorce (haha, I know I filed papers but j/k, I love you again), and finally realizing his buddy Polian is not a good coach.

At least he hasn't gotten any students killed, though. So he's still ahead of where he was at ND.

 

[Irishdrunk]

It's 110 pages because it contains over a year's worth of posts covering a variety of topics including (but not limited to) laughing at him grinding up on high school recruits, the loss to FSU, shitting the bed against a bad A&M team in typical Big Game BK fashion, the popcorn consumption from the high school level drama surrounding his divorce (haha, I know I filed papers but j/k, I love you again), and finally realizing his buddy Polian is not a good coach.

At least he hasn't gotten any students killed, though. So he's still ahead of where he was at ND.

If the alumni, boosters and fans took 10% of their deep-seated hatred for BK, and redirected it to oust Savvy Jack, it would be energy much better spent FWIW.

Greetings ForkBeard. I too like BK as a HC and ND. Not many of us around this website, for sure.

 

[sfk324]

If the alumni, boosters and fans took 10% of their deep-seated hatred for BK, and redirected it to oust Savvy Jack, it would be energy much better spent FWIW.

Greetings ForkBeard. I too like BK as a HC and ND. Not many of us around this website, for sure.

I'm not sure why you think this isn't happening.

The same people wanted BK and Jack gone after he got one of ours killed and Jack covered for him. We wanted Jack gone when his role in USA Gymnastics came to light. But they are still there. The bottom line is that BK and Jack are symptoms of the disease. The problems are at the BOT and BOF level, and they don't care what any of us think or say at this point. If enough people like Tom Mendoza, Dick Corbett, the Purcells, etc, made a stink, then they might do something. Until then, as your boy said after losing to Tulsa, get used to it.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Does BK hog down on regular brisket, or just burnt ends?

What's his golf handicap?

Not sure. We aren't known for our BBQ.

It's 110 pages because it contains over a year's worth of posts covering a variety of topics including (but not limited to) laughing at him grinding up on high school recruits, the loss to FSU, shitting the bed against a bad A&M team in typical Big Game BK fashion, the popcorn consumption from the high school level drama surrounding his divorce (haha, I know I filed papers but j/k, I love you again), and finally realizing his buddy Polian is not a good coach.

At least he hasn't gotten any students killed, though. So he's still ahead of where he was at ND.

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned. Regardless of whether you like him or not, he did a phenomenal job his first year at LSU. The outside observer or spectator simply doesn't realize just how bare the cupboard was left by Orgeron, the oaf.

You can cherry pick certain games all you'd like - i.e., FSU - which turned out to be a 10-win team, A&M, who, at times, played substantially better than their record indicated and is loaded with blue chip talent), and staff - i.e., Polian - who was transitioned to an off-the-field role today. Polian is purportedly a phenomenal recruiter, but BK couldn't afford to keep him in that role - Tiger fans were thirsty for blood after the FSU debacle. Special teams didn't improve.

That said, at the end of the day, most reasonable LSU and SEC fans assumed they'd win 5-7 games. SEC media days predicted us to finish 5th in the West (ahead of only Mississippi State and Auburn). LSU won the West, beating Alabama, Ole Miss, Florida, Auburn, etc. along the way.

In short, it was deemed a very successful season with only 1 or 2 games where we weren't competitive (Tennessee and Georgia), with an emphasis on Tennessee. LSU largely held its own against Georgia, it just had a really bad quarter, and ultimately fizzled out. They kept fighting though, and that's what matters at the end of the day.

 

[Rizzophil]

Not sure. We aren't known for our BBQ.

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned. Regardless of whether you like him or not, he did a phenomenal job his first year at LSU. The outside observer or spectator simply doesn't realize just how bare the cupboard was left by Orgeron, the oaf.

You can cherry pick certain games all you'd like - i.e., FSU - which turned out to be a 10-win team, A&M, who, at times, played substantially better than their record indicated and is loaded with blue chip talent), and staff - i.e., Polian - who was transitioned to an off-the-field role today. Polian is purportedly a phenomenal recruiter, but BK couldn't afford to keep him in that role - Tiger fans were thirsty for blood after the FSU debacle. Special teams didn't improve.

That said, at the end of the day, most reasonable LSU and SEC fans assumed they'd win 5-7 games. SEC media days predicted us to finish 5th in the West (ahead of only Mississippi State and Auburn). LSU won the West, beating Alabama, Ole Miss, Florida, Auburn, etc. along the way.

In short, it was deemed a very successful season with only 1 or 2 games where we weren't competitive (Tennessee and Georgia), with an emphasis on Tennessee. LSU largely held its own against Georgia, it just had a really bad quarter, and ultimately fizzled out. They kept fighting though, and that's what matters at the end of the day.

Tell us something about BK that's not in this thread please

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Not sure. We aren't known for our BBQ.

That's fine and well that he had a better than expected first season in Baton Rouge; that doesn't really address any of the grievances that sfk laid out about his off-field antics that rubbed a lot of people around ND the wrong way.

I don't think there's any denying that he's a pretty successful football coach. A good human? I don't know BK personally, but there are plenty of issues surrounding him that certainly warrant a debate.

He got complacent and lazy about recruiting and really hit a ceiling in that department, something that's been absolutely refreshing with Marcus Freeman at the helm.

I appreciate the work he did to get the football program that I love back on track after a decade-plus of mediocrity but that doesn't mean we have to like him as a person or praise his name after he left here.

To put it simply, it's MUCH easier to root for a guy like Marcus Freeman compared to BK. It's really not even close.

Welcome to the board, I hope you enjoy your trip to SB this fall, you're going to love it.

If I may, strictly out of curiosity, what were your thoughts when he was doing cringy things like grinding on recruits and faking a southern accent a week after being hired? obviously that's yesterday's news and he had on field success; I'm really just curious to hear what your early impressions were as we were all laughing and scratching our heads.

 

[MacIrish75]

Dearest Forkbeard,

You may be a nice dude and I wish you the best on your trip to ND, but you can geaux bleaux yourself for restarting a conversation we’ve had for the last 110 pages about BK.

 

[forkbeard3777]

That's fine and well that he had a better than expected first season in Baton Rouge; that doesn't really address any of the grievances that sfk laid out about his off-field antics that rubbed a lot of people around ND the wrong way.

I don't think there's any denying that he's a pretty successful football coach. A good human? I don't know BK personally, but there's plenty of issues surrounding him that certainly warrant a debate. He got complacent and lazy about recruiting and really hit a ceiling in that department, something that's been absolutely refreshing with Marcus Freeman at the helm.

I appreciate the work he did to get the football program that I love back on track after a decade-plus of mediocrity but that doesn't mean we have to like him as a person or praise his name after he left here.

To put it simply, it's MUCH easier to root for a guy like Marcus Freeman compared to BK. It's really not even close.

Welcome to the board, I hope you enjoy your trip to SB this fall, you're going to love it.

I understand why Notre Dame fans aren't too keen on BK. I really do. He's bland and can come across as arrogant - he's from Massachusetts - nothing else needs really needs to be expounded upon. Nevertheless, he's in charge of an approximate $1 billion program, not leading the Parish or church congregation. In addition, Nick Saban and Kirby Smart don't strike me as overly warm and fuzzy, but the Alabama and Georgia fans are smitten.

Is BK perfect? No. I honestly don't believe we'll have another 2019 season with him at the helm - it certainly won't be easier facing Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, and such week in and week out.

However, overall, I do believe that he did an unreal job while at Notre Dame. Notre Dame is faced with certain challenges that aren't an issue at other schools (potential AD and administration pushback, academics, restrictions on grad transfers, lack of in-state talent, I'm not too sure of ND's stance on NIL, etc.)

Regarding Freeman - he certainly is a guy you like to root for. In my opinion (and I'm prepared to be flamed for this), he's had a few "dear in the headlights" looks and moments since taking over. I'm also concerned about Notre Dame's willingness to support Freeman and do whatever it takes. That's largely stemming from the recent OC debacle.

 

[Dale]

That said, I'm surprised to see at 110 page thread on this. However, I'm happy to field any questions that you may have in regard to Kelly and LSU.

Truly no offense intended, but I think the 110 pages is more evidence there is a lot you could probably ask us more than questions we have for you.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Truly no offense intended, but I think the 110 pages is more evidence there is a lot you could probably ask us more than questions we have for you.

Look, I just saw a 100+ thread that is still being routinely posted on; thus, why I chimed in with the mere offer to answer any questions from a different perspective. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, believe it or not, BK isn't loved or admired by everyone in Baton Rouge...

 

[Dale]

Look, I just saw a 100+ thread that is still being routinely posted on; thus, why I chimed in with the mere offer to answer any questions from a different perspective. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, believe it or not, BK isn't loved or admired by everyone in Baton Rouge...

 

[sixstar]

welcome, fork.

BK is a touchy subject for ND fans as you might imagine, but the wounds are starting to heal. This thread went through the five stages of grief in a very public manner, but most here are finally past the acceptance phase and are focused on MF's ND moving forward.

BK did great things for ND; he brought the program back to sustained relevance and instilled a winning culture. He's a fantastic coach despite his blemishes. Most of the level-headed posters here are very thankful for what he did for ND, and while we certainly enjoy the schadenfreude of watching him struggle after he ditched us in such an abrupt manner, we are also very aware that he likely hit his ceiling at ND with all of the administration's self-imposed handcuffs.

All that said, realize that we, as a fan base, are trying to move on from BK. some are at different stages than others, but most here don't really want to discuss him any more. We're thankful for his time at ND, we're pissed about how he left, we understand why he left, we enjoy watching him when he struggles (as a form of self-soothing), and we're ready to move on.

 

[irishog77]

Look, I just saw a 100+ thread that is still being routinely posted on; thus, why I chimed in with the mere offer to answer any questions from a different perspective. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, believe it or not, BK isn't loved or admired by everyone in Baton Rouge...

I think what he's getting at is that we've been around the world several times and beaten every possible dead horse about this dude...since 2010.

Our only questions left unanswered at this point revolve around him now enjoying grinding on dudes, faking an accent, and eating 3 plates of Tobias Merriweather's dad's burnt ends...while telling him it was fake news he was going to lsu...even though he had already taken the job. And if he's spending the same amount of time working on his short game at lsu as he did at ND.

 

[sfk324]

....

BK did great things for ND; he brought the program back to sustained relevance and instilled a winning culture. He's a fantastic coach despite his blemishes. Most of the level-headed posters here are very thankful for what he did for ND, and while we certainly enjoy the schadenfreude of watching him struggle after he ditched us in such an abrupt manner, we are also very aware that he likely hit his ceiling at ND with all of the administration's self-imposed handcuffs.

So fantastic, in fact, that he was the losingest coach in program history years before he became the winningest*. Despite the advantages of a watered down schedule and an AD who gave him everything he wanted, and bent over when he interviewed for another job the same week of the biggest game of his career (that ultimately ended up being the only game that actually counted from that season).

*Asterisk included to note the hypocritical inclusion of subsequently vacated games in counting wins that ND said they would voluntarily vacate, because it's the same mealy mouthed horseshit that ND did for him.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Not sure. We aren't known for our BBQ.

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned. Regardless of whether you like him or not, he did a phenomenal job his first year at LSU. The outside observer or spectator simply doesn't realize just how bare the cupboard was left by Orgeron, the oaf.

You can cherry pick certain games all you'd like - i.e., FSU - which turned out to be a 10-win team, A&M, who, at times, played substantially better than their record indicated and is loaded with blue chip talent), and staff - i.e., Polian - who was transitioned to an off-the-field role today. Polian is purportedly a phenomenal recruiter, but BK couldn't afford to keep him in that role - Tiger fans were thirsty for blood after the FSU debacle. Special teams didn't improve.

That said, at the end of the day, most reasonable LSU and SEC fans assumed they'd win 5-7 games. SEC media days predicted us to finish 5th in the West (ahead of only Mississippi State and Auburn). LSU won the West, beating Alabama, Ole Miss, Florida, Auburn, etc. along the way.

In short, it was deemed a very successful season with only 1 or 2 games where we weren't competitive (Tennessee and Georgia), with an emphasis on Tennessee. LSU largely held its own against Georgia, it just had a really bad quarter, and ultimately fizzled out. They kept fighting though, and that's what matters at the end of the day.

We don’t care. Really. We don’t.