UFOs, Paranormal, Pseudoscience Thread

[Cackalacky2.0]

Back in the 80's we saw something that caught the attention of the military while at the beach near the IN/MI state line. I quoted you because my buddy who first noticed this was adopted from a Catholic orphanage in Grand Rapids and raised in South Haven until his family moved to Michigan City. He just turned 60 last month.

Yeah I guess the adoption part is a bit extraneous lol 😂 or maybe it’s all connected.

 

[INLaw]

Yeah I guess the adoption part is a bit extraneous lol 😂 or maybe it’s all connected.

Adopted from catholic orphanage move to Michigan City… is this Damien? Is this the open to the Omen part IV?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

OMM I bought a copy of your book. Look forward to reading it.

 

[Old Man Mike]

It is not a page-turner, but if you want a clear peek behind the military curtain, you'll enjoy it.
... and it's PURE objective scholarship straight from "their" own documents. The book is so
bulletproof that the A$sholes and Morons have never been able to mount their usual smear
campaigns on it. Robert and I are quite proud of the thing.

Someday I and my friends will publish the companion volume :The UFO Phenomenon: The
varieties of UFO Experience. Its 700+ pages have already been written (mainly by me and
Dr. Eddie Bullard), but none of us has had the time to complete the final editing and page-
ready polishing. It will lay out the hundreds of strong cases in all the varying categories of
sightings. These two should stand side-by-side as by far the two finest writings ever in this
field. Then I can rest and publish other things.

 

[Redbar]

It is not a page-turner, but if you want a clear peek behind the military curtain, you'll enjoy it.
... and it's PURE objective scholarship straight from "their" own documents. The book is so
bulletproof that the A$sholes and Morons have never been able to mount their usual smear
campaigns on it. Robert and I are quite proud of the thing.

Someday I and my friends will publish the companion volume :The UFO Phenomenon: The
varieties of UFO Experience. Its 700+ pages have already been written (mainly by me and
Dr. Eddie Bullard), but none of us has had the time to complete the final editing and page-
ready polishing. It will lay out the hundreds of strong cases in all the varying categories of
sightings. These two should stand side-by-side as by far the two finest writings ever in this
field. Then I can rest and publish other things.

I can and will vouch for everything Mike says about this effort and will be first in line if a companion volume becomes available.

 

[dublinirish]

OMM give us your take on the Valiant Thor story! Real or fake?

 

[Old Man Mike]

Not worth either of our times ... but since you ask, and I just finished lunch and don't feel like jumping up and doing my research ....

A. Frank Stranges (the primary claimant and author of this tale) is, to put it respectfully and with all honor, full of more crap than a christmas turkey, as my Dad used to say. Stranges was born in Brooklyn and died near Hollywood, so maybe that's all one needs to say. Early on he declared himself "Dr." Stranges, and set up shop as an early new age style preacher. His main hook was that he knew people who were in regular contact with Space Brothers, usually but not always from Venus. Middle to Upper class Caucasian Women (and I'm not being classist nor culturist here --- this cut of the American scene is accurate) loved these ideas and people like Stranges could make a fine living. I'll attach a picture of him with British Space Brothers Medium "Dr." George King who met and talked in trances with many such enlightened aliens --- most of whom were from Venus;


(Stranges is on our right despite the sign)
B. Stranges moved to LA (the epicenter of Space Brothers Mediumship,) and set up his "Church" there. There he revealed that he had received insider information that one of these aliens had showed up in Washington DC (while he himself was back there preaching) and naturally everyone felt that he was a good expert to bring in on the story to aid and support the Pentagon's relations with Valiant Thor from ... of course ... Venus. There's a picture of Valiant Thor out there on the internet somewhere --- not a blonde.

C. Somehow these opportunities originated with Admiral Richard Byrd. Write-ups of these world shaking moments are riddled with enigmas ---> translation: Errors. I've read that a guy headed the handling of this for Project Blue Book who was never at Blue Book if he even was real. I've read that Department of Defense chief Forrestal (but misspelled) was involved here in the late 1950s despite dying in 1949. I've read that a key governmental official involved was Richard Nixon ... hmmm .... maybe that part is believable.

D. Valiant Thor walked off his spacecraft into the Pentagon and happily announced that he was from Venus and was here to talk about our problems. The average surface temperature of Venus varies between 800 and 900 degrees Fahrenheit.

Apparently he was desperate to find a cooler place for a lengthy vacation.

But far be it from me to throw THAT amount of Cold Water on your fun.

P.S. my only personal interactions with Stranges were to ask him for permission to visit his place and do scholarly research work only in the Frank Edwards files, which he had somehow grabbed. Stranges responded that he had no interest in my request and his "library" was closed to researchers.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I've read and watched some interesting stuff lately that has a direct bearing on all the UFO stuff. This includes some videos by deGrasse, a summation of a paper by Einstein and Rosen, and a few other things about the likelihood of us being alone in the universe and the problems with interstellar travel.

A lot of this addresses the Fermi Paradox. While certainly not conclusive, some recent studies suggest that we might actually be one of the first (if not only) advanced civilizations in the galaxy. A couple of interesting videos about the problems with interstellar travel also discuss some major issues with traveling interstellar distances. As appealing and amazing as wormholes, warp drive, hyperdrive, and other such technologies are in books and movies, the fact is that ALL known laws of physics and ALL observations say getting from any point to another faster than the speed of light is an absolute, 100% impossibility, despite what happens in the movies. Any other slower than the speed of light travel is impractical time wise and also runs into some MAJOR problems with mass, acceleration, hitting dust particles, friction with interstellar gas, radiation, and etc. that may not be just a matter of solving with advanced technology.

Forget wormholes. Einstein-Rosen bridges, the actual name for them, are theoretically possible, but all their equations and all the research done since says that even if you could go into one (and they're extremely narrow), you can't come back out at either end. Period.

In other words, there's a good chance that there may well be other advanced civilizations out there (I believe there likely are), but they may not be any more advanced than us, or even if they are, the problems involved with interstellar travel are too great to overcome.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Bump!! Someone tell me WTF is going on.

 

[IrishLion]

Bump!! Someone tell me WTF is going on.

China sent more than one balloon as a test of the US response… or other parties saw that a foreign communications device traversed the whole country before being addressed, so they’re trying it as well, now.

I guess it’s also possible that this is a normal occurrence, but the US decided to take a “tough” stance all of a sudden (which all means nothing in the long run, because everyone has way more advanced spy satellites anyway).

Conspiracy: it’s all a distraction because too many major world/regional events are happening at once.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

OMM, you have any insight on the two latest objects shot down? Reports I've seen sound similar to past encounters of flying objects with no visible propulsionary system, et. Cylindrical and Octagonal in shape. What are these?

 

[BleedBlueGold]

China sent more than one balloon as a test of the US response… or other parties saw that a foreign communications device traversed the whole country before being addressed, so they’re trying it as well, now.

I guess it’s also possible that this is a normal occurrence, but the US decided to take a “tough” stance all of a sudden (which all means nothing in the long run, because everyone has way more advanced spy satellites anyway).

Conspiracy: it’s all a distraction because too many major world/regional events are happening at once.

I'm not saying they're "aliens," but I am skeptical that these are just Chinese spy machines.

I do think it's a normal occurrence, but I also question why they're being far more upfront about the reporting? Is this a distraction? Idk. It just seems odd to me. And I don't follow it that closely. I have a very superficial understanding of any of it.

 

[Irishdrunk]

What kills me is in that there has been no reporting of these objects speed. That is ridiculous of the press not pressing to understanding the traveling speed data.

 

[drayer54]

What kills me is in that there has been no reporting of these objects speed. That is ridiculous of the press not pressing to understanding the traveling speed data.

Reporting has been pretty light, IMO. I don’t see anyone confirming the objects were from China yet either. The Ukrainian Air Force shooting a balloon is another interesting part of this.

 

[NDohio]

This guy has been all over this. Pretty interesting information on his Twitter timeline.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I'm not saying they're "aliens," but I am skeptical that these are just Chinese spy machines.

I do think it's a normal occurrence, but I also question why they're being far more upfront about the reporting? Is this a distraction? Idk. It just seems odd to me. And I don't follow it that closely. I have a very superficial understanding of any of it.

China literally said that they want their balloon back.

 

[notredomer23]

It’s the Guatemalans IMO.

 

[drayer54]

China literally said that they want their balloon back.

Balloon or Balloon(s)?

 

[sixstar]

y'all are going to be disappointed when you find out that the most recent objects belonged to US military.

 

[IrishLion]

y'all are going to be disappointed when you find out that the most recent objects belonged to US military.

I just read on twitter that the UFO/UAP terms automatically blow things out of proportion, and what has likely happened is that the military and other agencies have changed their radars to account for slow-moving objects like the balloon, and now we are seeing and reacting to things that have actually been regular occurrences for a loooooooooooooong time.

Could be foreign agencies sending drones around... could be science experiments sent into the sky by American students. Could be rogue/forgotten US technology just drifting about. Regardless of origin, the most likely possibility seems to be that this was already happening, without incident, for a long time.

The question is why the US is suddenly addressing 'trespassers' with hostility. The easy answer there is that they want to make it look like they know what they're doing lol.

 

[GATTACA!]

The question is why the US is suddenly addressing 'trespassers' with hostility. The easy answer there is that they want to make it look like they know what they're doing lol.

I think it was just the fact that the Chinese balloon blew up on social media. It had happened before during Trumps time in office at least, but no one really noticed apparently.

 

[thekid33]

Whatever is happening, I can't imagine it's just started to happen in the past few days.

It's just being reported/covered and confirmed by the government now....

The bigger question is, what's happening elsewhere that they don't want us paying attention to?

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Whatever is happening, I can't imagine it's just started to happen in the past few days.

It's just being reported/covered and confirmed by the government now....

The bigger question is, what's happening elsewhere that they don't want us paying attention to?

Killing of crops/animals/farms in OHIO? Did you see that crap? Woof, and very little to any coverage.

Reporters getting arrested apparently? FYI, I haven't fact checked that part.

 

[IrishLion]

Killing of crops/animals/farms in OHIO? Did you see that crap? Woof, and very little to any coverage.

Reporters getting arrested apparently? FYI, I haven't fact checked that part.

Yeah, real bad environmental disaster from a train derailment, and just 10 miles from the Ohio river... gross stuff. If it's in the water table, it's going to end up affecting millions of people and wildlife downstream.

Apparently a CNN reporter tried to go live from a press briefing, but got arrested and put in jail.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Yeah, real bad environmental disaster from a train derailment, and just 10 miles from the Ohio river... gross stuff. If it's in the water table, it's going to end up affecting millions of people and wildlife downstream.

Apparently a CNN reporter tried to go live from a press briefing, but got arrested and put in jail.

There was a guy on Twitter live streaming the clouds and screaming "these are not storm clouds". It was super scary

I can't believe there isn't outrage about the Environment ect. The live stream guy said "Govt Officials" started the fire.

Saw another guy breaking down why it's so bad. This liquid chlorine turns into hydrogen something when mixed w/air and water and comes back down as acid rain. Bad news all around

 

[Henges24]

Killing of crops/animals/farms in OHIO? Did you see that crap? Woof, and very little to any coverage.

Reporters getting arrested apparently? FYI, I haven't fact checked that part.

Yeah, this is my exact thoughts. There will be a lot of bad from this, IMO, environmentally wise.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Why are we shooting down Chinese balloons trying to get to the US? WTF is wrong with some of you??? Maybe those balloons are seeking asylum or just want a better life. And we treat them like invaders and criminals and spies. It's shameful. It's inballoonane.... inhumalloon... you know what I mean. Some of you hate-filled balloonist pigs think that just because they aren't the fancy mylar balloons with curly ribbons and some stupid effing cat or heart or witty message on them that they are lesser balloons and it justifies you shooting them down. Let the poor balloons in and give them free helium and ribbons. Show you're better than just shooting them down. There's no such thing as an illegal balloon you bunch of balloon bigots.

 

[Irish#1]

I just read on twitter that the UFO/UAP terms automatically blow things out of proportion, and what has likely happened is that the military and other agencies have changed their radars to account for slow-moving objects like the balloon, and now we are seeing and reacting to things that have actually been regular occurrences for a loooooooooooooong time.

Could be foreign agencies sending drones around... could be science experiments sent into the sky by American students. Could be rogue/forgotten US technology just drifting about. Regardless of origin, the most likely possibility seems to be that this was already happening, without incident, for a long time.

The question is why the US is suddenly addressing 'trespassers' with hostility. The easy answer there is that they want to make it look like they know what they're doing lol.

I remember when my kids wrote a note, attached it to a balloon and let it go. Never heard from anyone. Now I think I know why.

 

[Irish#1]

Yeah, this is my exact thoughts. There will be a lot of bad from this, IMO, environmentally wise.

Anyone have a link to this story?

 

[Henges24]

Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly train derailments

The next derailment ‘could be cataclysmic’ if action isn’t taken after the incident near the Ohio-Pennsylvania border, says expert

amp.theguardian.com

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