'23 TX S Peyton Bowen (Oklahoma Signee ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

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Anybody willing to dig up and post some good schadenfreude from Drumm or that other hillbilly that kept talking shit on 247?

We can at least take solace in their misery, which in a roundabout way is probably worse than our misery.

We knew Bowen was likely out the door... they thought they had him signed, sealed and delivered for a loooooong time.
 

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He lied to them.
He lied to the other commits last night & this morning.
He lied to his own mother.
You know that for a fact or is that based on the same “reporting” these insider morons have been doing?
 

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You know that for a fact or is that based on the same “reporting” these morons have been doing?
Do you know anything about this that is a fact?
Since that’s what other commits have said, themselves, I guess we need to call them hacks & liars too?
 

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You know that for a fact or is that based on the same “reporting” these insider morons have been doing?
I’ll tell you what — I don’t know what he said to his mom, but I absolutely know that he lied to everyone on the ND side of things.

While the delay is probably waiting for the check to clear, I also really doubt that if he got cold feet he would be welcomed back by Freeman. Would have to be an epic apology and risky judgment call. Door more open for Oklahoma because Oklahoma knew by today that they weren’t getting him.
 

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Anybody willing to dig up and post some good schadenfreude from Drumm or that other hillbilly that kept talking shit on 247?

We can at least take solace in their misery, which in a roundabout way is probably worse than our misery.

We knew Bowen was likely out the door... they thought they had him signed, sealed and delivered for a loooooong time.

I looked earlier and they weren’t addressing it much. Akana stuff just happened too. Banning a decent amount of folks. Thune basically admitted all his confidence was in what Arnold was telling them. They are more right than wrong and things change type stuff
 

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I may be in the minority here, but if he wanted to submit it, I wouldn't accept it if I were Marcus Freeman. The kid lied to your face, lied to your assistants, lied to the recruits in the class, and used your hat and team's image as a prop in his announcement. Bowen showed his true colors - it isn't going to really change if he gets hit with mom's rolling pin. Talent be damned, I don't think that you can legitimately trust the kid.
I was waiting for this take lol

ND fans: We need the five stars to compete with Bama

Also ND fans: We only want the 5 stars who fit in the nice little box of being non-bag chasing RKGs who don’t like drama and listen to their moms and are academically able to qualify

If Peyton Bowen wants back in (in this hypothetical scenario) you prodigal son his ass and take him back.
 

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if things went sideways I’d still take him…
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I’ll tell you what — I don’t know what he said to his mom, but I absolutely know that he lied to everyone on the ND side of things.

While the delay is probably waiting for the check to clear, I also really doubt that if he got cold feet he would be welcomed back by Freeman. Would have to be an epic apology and risky judgment call. Door more open for Oklahoma because Oklahoma knew by today that they weren’t getting him.

When a person shows you who they are, believe them.
 

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I’ll tell you what — I don’t know what he said to his mom, but I absolutely know that he lied to everyone on the ND side of things.

While the delay is probably waiting for the check to clear, I also really doubt that if he got cold feet he would be welcomed back by Freeman. Would have to be an epic apology and risky judgment call. Door more open for Oklahoma because Oklahoma knew by today that they weren’t getting him.
I think it’s worth noting that he didn’t yank off an OU hat before putting on the Oregon one. It’s almost like he had more respect for that program than he did the Irish.
 

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I was waiting for this take lol

ND fans: We need the five stars to compete with Bama

Also ND fans: We only want the 5 stars who fit in the nice little box of being non-bag chasing RKGs who don’t like drama and listen to their moms and are academically able to qualify

If Peyton Bowen wants back in (in this hypothetical scenario) you prodigal son his ass and take him back.

Let's say that this scenario plays out as such - do you trust that the kid will stick it out? Or bail at the first and easiest opportunity?

I can deal with a lot of things. A person who lies very easily to your face is not one of them. You can work with a kid who has academic challenges, or comes from a difficult upbringing. You can't work with someone that you can't trust. It never ends well.
 

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I’ll tell you what — I don’t know what he said to his mom, but I absolutely know that he lied to everyone on the ND side of things.

While the delay is probably waiting for the check to clear, I also really doubt that if he got cold feet he would be welcomed back by Freeman. Would have to be an epic apology and risky judgment call. Door more open for Oklahoma because Oklahoma knew by today that they weren’t getting him.
And this is why the whole "verbal commit" process has to be reevaluated under the NIL era. If players can back out of their "verbal commit" like this why should coaches/universities by held to their "verbal commit"?
 

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Let's say that this scenario plays out as such - do you trust that the kid will stick it out? Or bail at the first and easiest opportunity?

I can deal with a lot of things. A person who lies very easily to your face is not one of them. You can work with a kid who has academic challenges, or comes from a difficult upbringing. You can't work with someone that you can't trust. It never ends well.
You get him on campus and then find out. If you don’t get him on campus you don’t give yourself a chance.
 

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I was waiting for this take lol

ND fans: We need the five stars to compete with Bama

Also ND fans: We only want the 5 stars who fit in the nice little box of being non-bag chasing RKGs who don’t like drama and listen to their moms and are academically able to qualify

If Peyton Bowen wants back in (in this hypothetical scenario) you prodigal son his ass and take him back.
Freeman could remind him about his recruitment in the middle of making him run gassers. There is obviously a line with recruits but my take is that Bowen had too many people in his ear and really didn’t know what to do. Get ‘em on campus and you can mold them in to better men.
 

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I think it’s worth noting that he didn’t yank off an OU hat before putting on the Oregon one. It’s almost like he had more respect for that program than he did the Irish.

All he respected was the Benjamin’s.

I know we don’t like under armor but I hope we don’t switch to Nike.
 

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I was waiting for this take lol

ND fans: We need the five stars to compete with Bama

Also ND fans: We only want the 5 stars who fit in the nice little box of being non-bag chasing RKGs who don’t like drama and listen to their moms and are academically able to qualify

If Peyton Bowen wants back in (in this hypothetical scenario) you prodigal son his ass and take him back.
Give me all your damn downvotes I don’t care. If Bowen pulled a 180 and decided to come to ND, you’d forget all this as soon as he made his first INT and you know it.
 

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Freeman could remind him about his recruitment in the middle of making him run gassers. There is obviously a line with recruits but my take is that Bowen had too many people in his ear and really didn’t know what to do. Get ‘em on campus and you can mold them in to better men.

It seems he missed that opportunity by a few minutes. My guess is once the check clears, he'll be ok to sign on that now electronic line. Banks don't close up shop for another hour or two in Texas.
 

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All he respected was the Benjamin’s.

I know we don’t like under armor but I hope we don’t switch to Nike.
I am not holding this against Nike. Phil Knight went to Oregon. It is what it is.

Sign me up for Nike if we don't stick with UA.
 

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Give me all your damn downvotes I don’t care. If Bowen pulled a 180 and decided to come to ND, you’d forget all this as soon as he made his first INT and you know it.
I would probably take him back. However, if this hypothetical were to ever happen, I think he should take the vote of the recruiting class and go with that.
 

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Give me all your damn downvotes I don’t care. If Bowen pulled a 180 and decided to come to ND, you’d forget all this as soon as he made his first INT and you know it.
Nope. Sorry. Usually I don’t begrudge the kids. They’re under a ton of pressure from a lot of directions, and they’re kids.

But lying straight-up to the coaches and his supposed future teammates and the shit he pulled with the hat that seemed to mortify even his own mother tells me this one’s not worth the trouble. We have other guys who can play safety.
 

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Not if they follow the aTm blueprint…which they seem to be doing.
But they aren’t. A&M bought whoever they could. They landed like 50 DL in one class. Oregon seems to be more about filling holes.
 
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