All Things SkunkBear

[irish4ever]

Muck fichigan!

 

[CanadalovesND]

Man, on the cusp of going to the playoffs, but they can't keep their best commits. But the three-star train keeps rolling into Ann Arbor.

 

[Dale]

Only momentum I’ve seen them have is Ohio kids that don’t have ND or OSU offers

 

[NDPhilly]

Harbaugh murdered all their momentum + Freeman is out hustling him . They should be recruiting at a top 5 level right now. Tough to be too mad as a Michigan fan since you’re likely a top 2 team in the country, but really isn’t going to be sustainable with recent classes.

 

[ColinKSU]

It is *extremely* funny how bad Michigan's recruiting class is, despite their on-field success.

 

[Dale]

Coming for Enow Etta too

 

[calvegas04]

 

[ColinKSU]

Man it’s almost like it’s all made up, just like most of EJ’s recruiting scoops.

 

[GATTACA!]

Harbaugh murdered all their momentum + Freeman is out hustling him . They should be recruiting at a top 5 level right now. Tough to be too mad as a Michigan fan since you’re likely a top 2 team in the country, but really isn’t going to be sustainable with recent classes.

I feel like a lot of Harbaugh’s complacency is coming from him knowing he’s not going to be at Michigan much longer. He’ll jump at the first NFL gig that gets dangled in front of him. Maybe Indy? Why bother wasting time recruiting when you hate it to begin with.

 

[phork]

I feel like a lot of Harbaugh’s complacency is coming from him knowing he’s not going to be at Michigan much longer. He’ll jump at the first NFL gig that gets dangled in front of him. Maybe Indy? Why bother wasting time recruiting when you hate it to begin with.

I don't think hes going anywhere for a long time.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I don't think hes going anywhere for a long time.

Me neither; I think he realized after his last interview with the Vikings this past offseason that his coaching stile just doesn't jive with the NFL. Not many coaches get run out of town after the type of success he had in San Francisco.

He'd be wise to stay at scUM but I'm not one who considers Harbaugh "wise."

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

I think we need to pray Harbaugh leaves for the NFL. This 2022 Michigan team would absolutely spank any ND team I've seen play in my lifetime. If they win a national championship this year - which I'm starting to think is a real possibility - they will be able to smash us in recruiting battles for years going forward. They're already a near lock to make the national championship game. If both UofM and OSU cement themselves as superior midwestern programs to us we are screwed for years.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Mods pls ban

 

[Blazers46]

I think we need to pray Harbaugh leaves for the NFL. This 2022 Michigan team would absolutely spank any ND team I've seen play in my lifetime. If they win a national championship this year - which I'm starting to think is a real possibility - they will be able to smash us in recruiting battles for years going forward. They're already a near lock to make the national championship game. If both UofM and OSU cement themselves as superior midwestern programs to us we are screwed for years.

Get this 2 year old off the internet....

 

[Free Manera]

Me neither; I think he realized after his last interview with the Vikings this past offseason that his coaching stile just doesn't jive with the NFL. Not many coaches get run out of town after the type of success he had in San Francisco.

He'd be wise to stay at scUM but I'm not one who considers Harbaugh "wise."

I don't think that is what happened though. The one report I read recently (I think it was on the Athletic) said that Harbaugh wanted that Vikings job bad, but approached his interview in a horrible manner. Basically he went in making demands, thinking the job was his. It turned the Vikings off on him and they moved on.

I think he would jump at the Colts job in a heartbeat.

 

[NDdomer2]

Mods pls ban again

Fify

 

[FOTY977]

I think we need to pray Harbaugh leaves for the NFL. This 2022 Michigan team would absolutely spank any ND team I've seen play in my lifetime. If they win a national championship this year - which I'm starting to think is a real possibility - they will be able to smash us in recruiting battles for years going forward. They're already a near lock to make the national championship game. If both UofM and OSU cement themselves as superior midwestern programs to us we are screwed for years.

You’re why ignore exists

 

[Crazy Balki]

I think we saw before that on-field success doesn't necessarily equate to recruiting success.

Between 2017 and 2021, Kelly managed 2 playoff appearances and went 54-9.

His recruiting classes following those years: 10th, 15th, 18th, 9th, 7th.

Didn't exactly ramp things up in recruiting. And a big reason why the '22 class finished as high as it did was due to Freeman. He made tons of headway with some very highly rated defensive players and we wouldn't have landed Billy Schrauth had Kelly stayed.

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

Not really sure why everyone is so triggered. I like beating Michigan. Given the way the programs are trending (shelving the scheduling concerns and whenever the next game is supposed to be) it seems like they will be a better team for some time. The 2022 wolverines look really, really good. They have an actual shot at a national championship this year, and if they win it'll be two for them and none for us in a 30 year period. That's why I'm saying we better cross our fingers harbaugh exits to the NFL asap.

 

[CoachB]

I think we need to pray Harbaugh leaves for the NFL. This 2022 Michigan team would absolutely spank any ND team I've seen play in my lifetime. If they win a national championship this year - which I'm starting to think is a real possibility - they will be able to smash us in recruiting battles for years going forward. They're already a near lock to make the national championship game. If both UofM and OSU cement themselves as superior midwestern programs to us we are screwed for years.

This guy is either delusional or just trying to stir things up. Reality is UM is the weakest #2 I have ever seen in my lifetime, and it isn't close. The ND teams that made the playoffs would beat this Michigan team by 20.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I don't think that is what happened though. The one report I read recently (I think it was on the Athletic) said that Harbaugh wanted that Vikings job bad, but approached his interview in a horrible manner. Basically he went in making demands, thinking the job was his. It turned the Vikings off on him and they moved on.

I think he would jump at the Colts job in a heartbeat.

I have to think this is probably affecting his recruiting pitch too.

Harbaugh sounds like he has an entitlement complex and he's very off-putting. Can't imagine that jives well with a ton of recruits.

 

[CoachB]

The sad part is Michigan's 2023 schedule is atrocious also. So I will call it again, like I did this year. Michigan will not be good, but they will beat up a terrible Big 10 and go into OSU unbeaten again, since they play NOBODY and then get dialed when they run into a good team in the playoffs...again...

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

This guy is either delusional or just trying to stir things up. Reality is UM is the weakest #2 I have ever seen in my lifetime, and it isn't close. The ND teams that made the playoffs would beat this Michigan team by 20.

How can you possibly think that? You think the ND teams that lost by, variously, 28, 27, and 17 points in the BCS national championship and playoff semifinals would beat an undefeated Michigan team with multiple top 10 victories by 20 points? What is your reasoning? Every time we have a big postseason game we lose by double digits literally without exception.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Checks notes on Michigan recruiting rankings and rereads Canon posts...

 

[CoachB]

How can you possibly think that? You think the ND teams that lost by, variously, 28, 27, and 17 points in the BCS national championship and playoff semifinals would beat an undefeated Michigan team with multiple top 10 victories by 20 points? What is your reasoning? Every time we have a big postseason game we lose by double digits literally without exception.

Absolutely! Michigan's "top ten" opponents won all their games in a trash big 10. They haven't played anyone either. ND played generational teams. ND played those teams way tougher than the eventual runner up did. Those Alabama and Clemson teams were some of the best ever assembled. Those teams would absolutely DESTROY this version of UM. UM is not good. Ohio is not good. ND was brutal up front when they played them and still almost beat them. Penn St is not good. The big ten is horrible. An average varsity team better look good playing against a junior high team. Of course Michigan will look good playing against bad teams. If they beat Georgia, I will admit they are good (although Georgia isn't as good this year).

 

[TheRealLynch51]

How can you possibly think that? You think the ND teams that lost by, variously, 28, 27, and 17 points in the BCS national championship and playoff semifinals would beat an undefeated Michigan team with multiple top 10 victories by 20 points? What is your reasoning? Every time we have a big postseason game we lose by double digits literally without exception.

Every time Michigan plays a big playoff game, they lose by double digits LITERALLY WITHOUT EXCEPTION

 

[Crazy Balki]

Not really sure why everyone is so triggered. I like beating Michigan. Given the way the programs are trending (shelving the scheduling concerns and whenever the next game is supposed to be) it seems like they will be a better team for some time. The 2022 wolverines look really, really good. They have an actual shot at a national championship this year, and if they win it'll be two for them and none for us in a 30 year period. That's why I'm saying we better cross our fingers harbaugh exits to the NFL asap.

Yeah, I don't see it.

Michigan is a good team, but far from great. The reality is that the Big Ten is just bad this year. One only has to look at the fact that their opponent in the B1G Championship game is Purdue...an unranked Purdue at that.

As it pertains to ND, Freeman has to let his talent begin to overtake the roster. Kelly left him a roster riddled with holes and no true offensive identity.

Keep in mind, 2 years ago, ND was in the CFP and Michigan had a losing record and Harbaugh was on the hotseat.

 

[Black Irish]

There's a book I saw referenced in past threads that details the history of how Michigan in the Fielding Yost days kept Notre Dame out of the Big 10 because Yost hated Catholics. If anyone knows what I'm talking about I'd appreciate knowing the title so I can pick up a copy.

 

[Old Man Mike]

John Kryk Natural Enemies??
Murray Sperber Shake Down the Thunder also??
... has been written about several times.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

There's a book I saw referenced in past threads that details the history of how Michigan in the Fielding Yost days kept Notre Dame out of the Big 10 because Yost hated Catholics. If anyone knows what I'm talking about I'd appreciate knowing the title so I can pick up a copy.

John Kryk Natural Enemies??
Murray Sperber Shake Down the Thunder also??
... has been written about several times.

Yep, It's Natural Enemies by John Kryk. He grew up a Michigan fan in Windsor, Ontario, but it's actually a very well written book.

He details Yost's anti-Catholic beliefs, even though he wrote a letter to Rockne saying "I have many close friends who are Catholic," he was criticized not only by ND fans but even metro-Detroit football fans for his lack of scheduling local University of Detroit (now Detroit Mercy, and no longer have a football team), because they are a Catholic institution.