'20 CT QB Drew Pyne (ND->ASU->MO->BGSU Transfer)

[Old Man Mike]

Not that it makes any difference, but one person who was high on Drew coming out of High school was Brady Quinn.

 

[fightingirish26]

Not that it makes any difference, but one person who was high on Drew coming out of High school was Brady Quinn.

Helps when there's all the pictures of Drew wearing his jersey as a kid

 

[Old Man Mike]

So ... you think Brady DIDN'T like Drew Pyne as a QB (not just a BQ fan) coming out of HS?

 

[stlnd01]

As overrated as I think MF and TR are, I do believe we are a CJ Carr away from being potentially 2-0. Incredible QB play would have altered the games in a major way. The Marshall game may have simply been an early season blip that we won by 3 or 7, similar to what we've seen in the past with teams like Toledo and FSU. Not having anyone good at the position altered the game against our favor. Would BK have beaten Toledo with Buchner as his QB? I don't think so. The difference is BK was smart enough to go portal. That's not to say we shouldn't get a new OL coach and consider replacing coaches, but I think the gap between what MF has done so far and BK is hard to gauge in the setting of far less talented QB's running the show than Jack Coan. Jack saved Toledo. Our QB room is horrendous. That might be on Rees, but I think it's the difference between 0-2 and 2-0 or a super close loss to Ohio State.

Had we started this season with FSU and Marshall and had Jack Coan (or a transfer) as our QB this season, I bet we're 2-0.

The way our line played against Ohio State I'm not sure any QB short of, I dunno, CJ Stroud would have been able to move the ball once their D got dialed in.
Marshall felt like one of those stupid-close early season games we've had a number of times over the years where we win close but only after our QB comes out nails in the last few drives, only this time our QB threw an atrocious pick six and then broke his shoulder. So yeah Coan (or JT Daniels) probably wins that one.

 

[du Lac]

The way our line played against Ohio State I'm not sure any QB short of, I dunno, CJ Stroud would have been able to move the ball once their D got dialed in.
Marshall felt like one of those stupid-close early season games we've had a number of times over the years where we win close but only after our QB comes out nails in the last few drives, only this time our QB threw an atrocious pick six and then broke his shoulder. So yeah Coan (or JT Daniels) probably wins that one.

True. CJ didn’t exactly light it up in his game where he had no line blocking. I’m assuming it wouldn’t get any easier at ND. The OL is hands down the most important piece to getting the offense back. If ND could fix the OL by next season, whoever the QB is he will have success. If CJ is given a really great OL, he will look like a 5 star as when he has time, he throws one of the most accurate balls anyone can throw amd he has arm strength that I doubt any of our current players have.

 

[indianamouse]

Y’all are so negative. I hope he throws for 300 yards and 3 tds

 

[ThePiombino]

So ... you think Brady DIDN'T like Drew Pyne as a QB (not just a BQ fan) coming out of HS?

Define like. Source? Quotes?

I like a lot of people that I wouldn't necessarily give the keys to my car to.

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[BilboBaggins]

What was Buchner's completion percentage in throws longer than 20 yards? 2/10?

If Pyne can throw a deep ball better than Buchner he will be an immediate upgrade.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Completely unhelpful remark.

 

[ThePiombino]

Completely unhelpful remark.

So no source or quotes to share then?

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[irish4ever]

What was Buchner's completion percentage in throws longer than 20 yards? 2/10?

If Pyne can throw a deep ball better than Buchner he will be an immediate upgrade.

How many interceptions are allowed in your analysis? They are coming, so be prepared! Ugh, what a fuckin' season where you're just hoping for a win at home against the Cal Bears!?!?!

 

[ulukinatme]

Nah, Texas and USC type schools actually recruit high end QBs. Better chance of getting someone from those schools who was recruited over.

Texas and USC literally took the two best transfers in the portal last year.

 

[Dale]

What was Buchner's completion percentage in throws longer than 20 yards? 2/10?

If Pyne can throw a deep ball better than Buchner he will be an immediate upgrade.

PFF shows 3-10 but with 4 drops. But when looking at the WRs stats, they show no drops so not really sure of that grading.

EDIT: I can’t read. They have something called DPR and DRP. Just 3-10.

 

[Wild Bill]

So ... you think Brady DIDN'T like Drew Pyne as a QB (not just a BQ fan) coming out of HS?

I doubt Brady is thrilled that pyne is the best option ND has at QB right now.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

So the II pod confirmed that ND could’ve taken JT Daniels as a grad transfer before the season. Dammit!!!!

 

[ulukinatme]

So the II pod confirmed that ND could’ve taken JT Daniels as a grad transfer before the season. Dammit!!!!

Daniels hasn't exactly lit the world on fire at 0-2 West Virginia. He got out dueled by Slovis against Pitt, same thing happened against Kansas and Jalon Daniels. He's only started more than 4 games once and it was his freshmen year at USC. I'd rather roll the dice with Pyne or Angeli.

 

[T-Boone]

over/under on how many picks he throws on Saturday has to be 2.5 right?

None. I see a stat line of 3 TDS 0 picks. And a running TD.

 

[T-Boone]

So the II pod confirmed that ND could’ve taken JT Daniels as a grad transfer before the season. Dammit!!!!

At this stage Rees is like from a three stooges skit.

 

[NDRock]

Texas and USC literally took the two best transfers in the portal last year.

We were talking grad transfers. Neither of those guys were.

 

[arahop]

And even with saying that, if Drew Pyne is just a solid, average QB, ND will be overall fine. Probably looking at an 8-4 season, and you add in the portal this offseason, and open the competition again and see who wins the job between: Pyne, Buchner, Angeli, and *insert grad transfer QB*

Sign me up for 8-4. I got 6-6

 

[NDdomer2]

So the II pod confirmed that ND could’ve taken JT Daniels as a grad transfer before the season. Dammit!!!!

Well now that II said it...

 

[ThePiombino]

Daniels hasn't exactly lit the world on fire at 0-2 West Virginia. He got out dueled by Slovis against Pitt, same thing happened against Kansas and Jalon Daniels. He's only started more than 4 games once and it was his freshmen year at USC. I'd rather roll the dice with Pyne or Angeli.

At least it was a duel, which implies an offensive presence. More than we can say...

EDIT: And not for nothing, did you see his stats so far? 50 for 79 (63%), 579 yards, 5 TDs, 2 INTs. Who here wouldn't sign up for that yesterday and twice on Sunday compared to our output so far?

EDIT #2 (context): ND passing stats thus far -- 31 for 56 (55%), 398 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs.

Yeah, we definitely couldn't have used a JT Daniels...

 

[Irish4life]

Daniels hasn't exactly lit the world on fire at 0-2 West Virginia. He got out dueled by Slovis against Pitt, same thing happened against Kansas and Jalon Daniels. He's only started more than 4 games once and it was his freshmen year at USC. I'd rather roll the dice with Pyne or Angeli.

While this is fair, I think in hindsight he would've easily been a good addition to the QB room at the very least. I'd rather have had Buchner, Daniels, Pyne, Angeli than Buchner, Pyne, Angeli, Powlus.

 

[ThePiombino]

While this is fair, I think in hindsight he would've easily been a good addition to the QB room at the very least. I'd rather have had Buchner, Daniels, Pyne, Angeli than Buchner, Pyne, Angeli, Powlus.

That's a weird way of wording "QB1"

 

[Irish4life]

That's a weird way of wording "QB1"

Maybe he wins it maybe he doesn't. But my point was that even if he didn't beat out Buchner for the job, the room is still better off with him in it than not.

 

[du Lac]

Maybe he wins it maybe he doesn't. But my point was that even if he didn't beat out Buchner for the job, the room is still better off with him in it than not.

Daniels would have beaten out Buchner and it wouldn't have been close. He's better than Coan and he would have helped us beat Marshall at the very least. Daniels is a legit stud and has the potential to be a first or second round pick. He would have struggled at ND like anyone else with our poor line blocking, but he is accurate enough and has the arm talent to have made big plays that only an elite 5 star arm talent can make. I think Daniels moves the ball enough to have scored in the second half vs Ohio State. Would it have made a difference in the W/L column? Not sure, but the arm talent gap, experience level, and upside between Daniels and Buchner is immense. Turning him down is literally one of the dumbest things I can actually think of. You couldn't dream up more stupid than that. JT Daniels would've been the most talented and highest graded QB at ND since Jimmy Clausen.

 

[Dale]

So the II pod confirmed that ND could’ve taken JT Daniels as a grad transfer before the season. Dammit!!!!

Well now that II said it...

transfer who chose between WVU, Missouri and Oregon State would have preferred ND. We’ve known this decent confidence from the jump

Slovis would have been the more interesting result as Pitt has the Pickett card + his girlfriend is at Pitt.

 

[Irish4life]

Daniels would have beaten out Buchner and it wouldn't have been close. He's better than Coan and he would have helped us beat Marshall at the very least. Daniels is a legit stud and has the potential to be a first or second round pick. He would have struggled at ND like anyone else with our poor line blocking, but he is accurate enough and has the arm talent to have made big plays that only an elite 5 star arm talent can make. I think Daniels moves the ball enough to have scored in the second half vs Ohio State. Would it have made a difference in the W/L column? Not sure, but the arm talent gap, experience level, and upside between Daniels and Buchner is immense. Turning him down is literally one of the dumbest things I can actually think of. You couldn't dream up more stupid than that.

I don't agree with any of the bolded.

 

[du Lac]

I don't agree with any of the bolded.

That's fine. We highly disagree with each other. I guess that's what forums are for.

 

[NDohio]

Daniels would have beaten out Buchner and it wouldn't have been close. He's better than Coan and he would have helped us beat Marshall at the very least. Daniels is a legit stud and has the potential to be a first or second round pick. He would have struggled at ND like anyone else with our poor line blocking, but he is accurate enough and has the arm talent to have made big plays that only an elite 5 star arm talent can make. I think Daniels moves the ball enough to have scored in the second half vs Ohio State. Would it have made a difference in the W/L column? Not sure, but the arm talent gap, experience level, and upside between Daniels and Buchner is immense. Turning him down is literally one of the dumbest things I can actually think of. You couldn't dream up more stupid than that. JT Daniels would've been the most talented and highest graded QB at ND since Jimmy Clausen.

I am not sure how you can make these statements with such certainty. JT Daniels lost his job to Slovis who then lost his job to Dart who then transferred cause he was going to lose his job. JT then goes to Georgia and isn't able to beat out Bennett. This is the history of a guy that beats out Buchner easily and is better than Coan?

He couldn't lead a team to victory over Kansas? Kansas? What makes you think he can lead a team to victory over Marshall? Kansas...