'17 TX QB Avery Davis (Notre Dame Man)

[Te'o4Heisman]

Before Diggs went out at the B&G game he lined up at WR for a play. With Tyree's versatility could he go into a slot and the same for Gi'Bran Payne if he is ready? A 3 TE set with Mayer, Baumann, & Raridon (if he plays & is ready)?

I would imagine we will see a lot of two back sets with one of them motioning out of the backfield presnap trying to find mismatches as well as lot of wheel routes, screens, and other routes out of the backfield moreso than just lining them up in traditional WR sets and asking them to beat experienced cover guys.

I also wouldnt be surprised if Watts moves back over to offense, I think he should. He is a dynamic athlete and at best will be in a rotation or package sets on defense whereas he could see 15-20 snaps a game on offense if he can pick up the playbook.

You have to be explosive to win against the big boys in todays college football. You just do. Lots of 3 TE sets isnt going to get it done at the level ND needs to compete with the top echelon of teams no matter who your TEs are. It is too easy defensively to scheme against and teams like UGA and Bama have enough big bodies on defense that are also athletic enough to mitigate those sets. See Alabama game 2020-21 and Saban flat out came out and said as much.

 

[ulukinatme]

Colzie and Styles have shown good blocking on the outside, they were pancaking USC defenders last year, and we obviously have the muscle on the inside. With the thin WR group we probably should lean on the run game. It'll take a burden off the receivers and open those guys up on play action.

 

[dublinirish]

per II podcast he tore the ACL on a jet sweep in practice :/

 

[stpeteirish]

I would imagine we will see a lot of two back sets with one of them motioning out of the backfield presnap trying to find mismatches as well as lot of wheel routes, screens, and other routes out of the backfield moreso than just lining them up in traditional WR sets and asking them to beat experienced cover guys.

I also wouldnt be surprised if Watts moves back over to offense, I think he should. He is a dynamic athlete and at best will be in a rotation or package sets on defense whereas he could see 15-20 snaps a game on offense if he can pick up the playbook.

You have to be explosive to win against the big boys in todays college football. You just do. Lots of 3 TE sets isnt going to get it done at the level ND needs to compete with the top echelon of teams no matter who your TEs are. It is too easy defensively to scheme against and teams like UGA and Bama have enough big bodies on defense that are also athletic enough to mitigate those sets. See Alabama game 2020-21 and Saban flat out came out and said as much.

Well we're not going to play Georgia or Alabama this year so our offense doesn't need to be structured to beat them. The personnel we have is a really good TE room and a very thin, and not top tier, WR room so we should use the big guys heavily in the passing game. The "heavy" lineup should match up well vs jsut about eveyone on our schedule.

We're going to need another offseason to solve the roster hole we currently have at WR. Then we can match up with everybody (I hope).

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Sounds like's done

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Sounds like's done

Either way, he is obviously a high character dude……I will always be a fan ☘️

 

[brewdog_14527]

I was going to ask. Doesn't he already have his Masters degree? He may have been just taking enough classes to maintain eligibility for the fall. I would imagine that 2 ACL tears may affect his pro prospects, so wouldn't it make sense to move onto the next part of his life?

 

[irishandy]

Him being with the team and helping however he can will be big this year for our young receivers as a tutor. I would like to see him on the field, but him being on the sidelines will make a difference.

Sign all of the Avery Davis type of kids.

 

[Redbar]

This thread should have “Notre Dame Man” in the title

 

[stpeteirish]

I was going to ask. Doesn't he already have his Masters degree? He may have been just taking enough classes to maintain eligibility for the fall. I would imagine that 2 ACL tears may affect his pro prospects, so wouldn't it make sense to move onto the next part of his life?

Maybe he wants to go into coaching? If he does this year would be like an intership.

 

[MacIrish75]

This thread should have “Notre Dame Man” in the title

Came in here to post this after reading his tweet. AD forever.

 

[ulukinatme]

Big heart, ultimate team player. He deserves great things going forward.

 

[GATTACA!]

Sounds like's done

Damn who’s cutting the onions? 🥺

 

[Irish#1]

RKG!

 

[du Lac]

I can't see any reason why he would not come back if that's the case. He has true NFL potential. Coming back is his only shot at getting drafted. Add Avery Davis to captain and play side by side with Styles, Merriweather, Greathouse, Flores, James, Lyons, etc. That's a very impressive receiver room.

Yes. Please.

 

[NDdomer2]

Maybe because he's been in college for 6 years and is ready to start is post athletic career.

 

[du Lac]

Maybe because he's been in college for 6 years and is ready to start is post athletic career.

grad school. also, are you saying that you'd take your career 1 year earlier as opposed to getting drafted to the NFL?

 

[irishfan]

He’s not getting drafted after a 7th year with his age, injury history, and just solid production. His best chance at NFL is getting a camp invite as a UDFA.

 

[du Lac]

He’s not getting drafted after a 7th year with his age, injury history, and just solid production. His best chance at NFL is getting a camp invite as a UDFA.

If age mattered, BYU's entire team would go undrafted.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

grad school. also, are you saying that you'd take your career 1 year earlier as opposed to getting drafted to the NFL?

Like the others said, he is already in grad school and will likely get his graduate degree after this year; the dude is coming off of back to back season ending injuries, both of which did and will include intensive physical therapy. That stuff takes a lot out of an athlete and my heart really goes out to him that he has to go through this in back to back years.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he decides to hang them up. It would be an amazing story if he did come back and put up a big season, but I doubt he will. I predict he'll be ready for the next chapter of his life. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[GowerND11]

If age mattered, BYU's entire team would go undrafted.

You picked one part of it. It's not JUST age. It's age, two ACL tears, and decent production. All combined means it would be super hard for him. Plus, he's already got the Master's degree, what is a 7th year of schooling at Notre Dame going to provide him? If football isn't going to be his career (which it probably won't), he needs to get some job experience going.

 

[ab2cmiller]

You guys are acting like Davis would almost assuredly be granted a medical waiver. Only reason he got this year was because of the fluky COVID rule. He played in at least 9 games each year in 4 consecutive years. There’s a chance he could get a seventh, but it would be far from a given.

 

[NDdomer2]

You guys are acting like Davis would almost assuredly be granted a medical waiver. Only reason he got this year was because of the fluky COVID rule. He played in at least 9 games each year in 4 consecutive years. There’s a chance he could get a seventh, but it would be far from a given.

not you guys - one guy.

 

[clashmore_mike]

You guys are acting like Davis would almost assuredly be granted a medical waiver. Only reason he got this year was because of the fluky COVID rule. He played in at least 9 games each year in 4 consecutive years. There’s a chance he could get a seventh, but it would be far from a given.

Also, wasn't there room for Sherwood's scholarship immediately after AD got hurt? Seems logical he was put on medical hardship which would end his playing career at ND.

 

[irishfan]

If age mattered, BYU's entire team would go undrafted.

Find me any recent RB/WR/CB/S they’ve had drafted over the age of 23. Let alone however old Davis will be in the 2024 draft.

 

[ulukinatme]

The above all seems moot if Freeman says he's welcome back for a 7th year. Of course that's up to AD and the NCAA. If he's played 6+ games in 4 seasons then he technically could still get another season if one year is counted as a medical, right?
Redshirt in 17
6 games in 18
6 games in 19
11 games in 20
8 games in 21
0 games medical in 22
COVID year in '23?

 

[ab2cmiller]

The above all seems moot if Freeman says he's welcome back for a 7th year. Of course that's up to AD and the NCAA. If he's played 6+ games in 4 seasons then he technically could still get another season if one year is counted as a medical, right?
Redshirt in 17
6 games in 18
6 games in 19
11 games in 20
8 games in 21
0 games medical in 22
COVID year in '23?

In non-COVID times, he would’ve used up his eligibility last year. Fluky COVID rule gave him this year. No way to know how the NCAA will look at this. There’s a chance they give him a year for this one that he lost. They may also look at the fact that he participated in at least 9 games a year for 4 straight years and say you already got your 4 years.

NBC article said he participated in at least 9 games each year. For example last year you show 8 games. He had stats in 8 games but participated in 9 as he had no stats against FSU. I’m assuming the same holds true for some of his earlier years.

Clashmore raises a great question. Sherwood most definitely got Avery’s scholarship slot. I do think this means he was put on Medical Scholarship. I don’t think you can reverse that next year at ND. He could maybe play someplace else.

 

[ulukinatme]

In non-COVID times, he would’ve used up his eligibility last year. Fluky COVID rule gave him this year. No way to know how the NCAA will look at this. There’s a chance they give him a year for this one that he lost. They may also look at the fact that he participated in at least 9 games a year for 4 straight years and say you already got your 4 years.

NBC article said he participated in at least 9 games each year. For example last year you show 8 games. He had stats in 8 games but participated in 9 as he had no stats against FSU. I’m assuming the same holds true for some of his earlier years.

Clashmore raises a great question. Sherwood most definitely got Avery’s scholarship slot. I do think this means he was put on Medical Scholarship. I don’t think you can reverse that next year at ND. He could maybe play someplace else.

There's nothing preventing AD from playing at ND next year from a scholarship standpoint. Kids will graduate and get drafted, there will be spots. Like I said, Freeman says he's welcome. It's just a matter of whether the NCAA gives him a medical for this year and accepts next year for COVID, and of course AD would have to be on board too.

 

[ab2cmiller]

There's nothing preventing AD from playing at ND next year from a scholarship standpoint. Kids will graduate and get drafted, there will be spots. Like I said, Freeman says he's welcome. It's just a matter of whether the NCAA gives him a medical for this year and accepts next year for COVID, and of course AD would have to be on board too.

From what I understand about medical scholarships, we can’t put AD on medical scholarship this year and then next year change your mind and put him back on scholarship next year.

If he was put on med scholarship this year (which appears to be true if it freed up a scholarship for Sherwood), I believe he is done at ND.

Maybe someone else has a different understanding of Med Scholarships

 

[ulukinatme]

From what I understand about medical scholarships, we can’t put AD on medical scholarship this year and then next year change your mind and put him back on scholarship next year.

If he was put on med scholarship this year (which appears to be true if it freed up a scholarship for Smallwood), I believe he is done at ND.

Maybe someone else has a different understanding of Med Scholarships

But again, if Freeman says he's welcome back would there not be a spot for him? It seems like it's more contingent on the NCAA granting him the extra year again and AD accepting, but I would think if Freeman says he's welcome then he's able to play from ND's standpoint.