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[Irish#1]

I'll tell you the same thing I tell my staff - make your point concise.

Your initial response to me was that I posted an article "predictably" (not sure what that means, as it is assuming that I waited until finding article to fit my beliefs) days after the incident. When, in fact, it was the first article to show up in my Google search. So, back to your original hand wringing - where did I go wrong in posting the first available news story? As well, the initial discussion was that there were little details out there and that it wasn't a bigger story. In your post, you appear (it's not very clear) to claim that it had the potential to be a bigger story but...wasn't so that's an issue? Isn't the whole gripe that white people don't get the same coverage as black people, but when a black person has been killed a police officer you're upset at that? Consistency please.

Yes or no? Sorry, couldn't resist. lol

 

[Blazers46]

I'll tell you the same thing I tell my staff - make your point concise.

Your initial response to me was that I posted an article "predictably" (not sure what that means, as it is assuming that I waited until finding article to fit my beliefs) days after the incident. When, in fact, it was the first article to show up in my Google search. So, back to your original hand wringing - where did I go wrong in posting the first available news story? As well, the initial discussion was that there were little details out there and that it wasn't a bigger story. In your post, you appear (it's not very clear) to claim that it had the potential to be a bigger story but...wasn't so that's an issue? Isn't the whole gripe that white people don't get the same coverage as black people, but when a black person has been killed a police officer you're upset at that? Consistency please.

Thanks for the advice, boss.

I will break it down -

Your initial response to me was that I posted an article "predictably" (not sure what that means, as it is assuming that I waited until finding article to fit my beliefs) days after the incident.

You are trying to make a point that the media disclosed race in relation to Virginia Beach... I am simply saying its convenient and predictable that an article 5 days late to the party disclosed race... and its convenient and predictable that the story, within that 5 days, went from 10 shot / 2 dead to Police being investigated for shooting black man with barely any mention of all the other events that occured.

If I wanted to jump on you about being predictable, Google algarithms already did that feeding you a story they predicted you would like/read since thats how Google algarithms work... they predict what you want to see. So if I wanted to go there I would say its funny that the first thing that popped up for your Virgina Beach Google search was an article about investigating the police with little mention of everything else.

So, back to your original hand wringing - where did I go wrong in posting the first available news story?

Again, your article is late to the party. The lead story will always be the story. People are not morons but peope are lazy. People read headlines and some might skim the article for names and specifics but rarely do people read the whole article... which is something to keep in mind for ad placement when marketing. But rarely do people read follw up stories... rarely do people read articles 5 days after after the fact. rarely do people see edits or retractions. You aren't "wrong" but if you are trying to prove a point by defending media and what they said or didnt an article 5 days late isn't doing much for your argument.

As well, the initial discussion was that there were little details out there and that it wasn't a bigger story. In your post, you appear (it's not very clear) to claim that it had the potential to be a bigger story but...wasn't so that's an issue?

10 shot / 2 dead should be a big story. 10 shot / 2 dead at the very least has the potential to be a big story depending on the what, where, hows, and whos... It ran into our local news but it quickly fizzled when it became sort of non-story because the hows and whos. A bunch of black people shooting at each seems to be a non story nobdy really cares about. Even in your 5 day late article it just mostly talks about the officer being investigated (convenient and predictable).

Isn't the whole gripe that white people don't get the same coverage as black people, but when a black person has been killed a police officer you're upset at that? Consistency please.

Again... nobody really seems to care about the 10 shot / 2 dead story because they were black people shooting at other black people. As much as it should be a story and a bigger story, its not... even you admit that. Even the article you posted leaves one to assume the only story that even really matters is white cop shoots black man. That seems to be consistant with the media and I guess society as a whole. BLM matters only when shot by a officer, the other people just seem to be a side story or non-story at this point.

 

[ulukinatme]

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[drayer54]

People died, yes...from heart attacks. The only death they know of that was a direct result of violence is Ashli Babbitt who was shot trying to enter. 5 deaths, 3 of which were heart related, Babbitt being the 4th, and the last being the unfortunate death of Officer Sicknick. While he was struck in the head with a fire extinguisher, just a few weeks ago Newsweek reported it was still unclear what the cause of death was as other health factors may have contributed to his death.

Trump called for the protesters to disperse multiple times during the fracas, and any calls he made to stop the transition of power prior were vague at best. It's one of the reasons they couldn't make the impeachment stick. An insurrection is defined as "an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence." There was nothing organized about that group of people, they didn't have a plan and they dispersed as soon as the NG told them to leave. Violent? There were a handful that were violent, but it was a mostly peaceful protest (See what I did there?). Again, for all the pearl clutching over 5 deaths only one was confirmed as a direct result of violence, that being Babbitt. That doesn't mean the deaths weren't unfortunate and preventable, but citing the deaths is kind of silly when only Sicknick's death can be attributed to possible violence by the protesters. He was still able to return to the station afterwards as oppose to going directly to a medical facility, which lends itself to the fact his cause of death is still unconfirmed.

So, no, insurrection isn't the exact word because it doesn't fit the definition.

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[Bishop2b5]

Olympic athletes promised legal support if they protest (espn.com)

This is part of why so many of us HATE the entire PC/SJW thing so much. Sports is often an escape from the relentless stream of bad news, conflict, stress, and hostility we deal with all too often in life. ESPN all but ruined that escape for most of us over the past decade by becoming ESJWPN until finally reversing course to some extent. Now the Olympics is on the brink of being taken over by every athletic asshole on the planet with an agenda. The IOC has reaffirmed its long-standing ban on "demonstration or political, religious or racial propaganda'' on the field of play, medal podiums or official ceremonies... as well it should. No clothing related to any such groups or causes will be permitted. Good. Of course, activist groups are claiming THEIR pet cause should be the exception and be allowed, and are promising legal defense for athletes who are punished for breaking the IOC rules against such. Sigh.

 

[Blazers46]

Virginia moving to eliminate all accelerated math courses before 11th grade as part of equity-focused plan

https://news.yahoo.com/virginia-moving-eliminate-accelerated-math-204158628.html

Look out China, here we come.

 

[ND88]

Olympic athletes promised legal support if they protest (espn.com)

This is part of why so many of us HATE the entire PC/SJW thing so much. Sports is often an escape from the relentless stream of bad news, conflict, stress, and hostility we deal with all too often in life. ESPN all but ruined that escape for most of us over the past decade by becoming ESJWPN until finally reversing course to some extent. Now the Olympics is on the brink of being taken over by every athletic asshole on the planet with an agenda. The IOC has reaffirmed its long-standing ban on "demonstration or political, religious or racial propaganda'' on the field of play, medal podiums or official ceremonies... as well it should. No clothing related to any such groups or causes will be permitted. Good. Of course, activist groups are claiming THEIR pet cause should be the exception and be allowed, and are promising legal defense for athletes who are punished for breaking the IOC rules against such. Sigh.

You’re gonna sigh about this? Protest doesn’t change the outcome of the athletic results. (Unless you’re an otherworldly protest god like the great Jesse Owens. Then you destroy all kinds of racist stereotypes and bigotry with ease.)

Of all the countries in the world, the United States should be emblematic of the value of protest. But it’s lost on many of its own citizens, because they don’t support the causes. Well, guess what? The Black Power salute wasn’t supported either during the ‘68 Olympics, but it resonated heavily in communities in our country and in the collective consciousness of our nation. The real issue of contention is that the causes being represented are ones you don’t like, and that’s fine, you’re entitled to your viewpoints. But just state it like it is. Sports are not victimized by protesting. It doesn’t add to the stress and the conflict for athletes to express their beliefs. The conflicts and injustice outside of sports add to the stress and anger of being a human being in any country. If you’re stressed by the causes being stood up for, then that’s your contention. Personally, I don’t agree with every protest ever protested, but I agree with the right to peaceful protest. It’s wholly American when America lives up to its ideals. The wish is that it is a peaceful global ideal.

The real issue is that ESPN is just a boring-ass platform for sports. I was on my way to work the other day listening to Key, J and Zubin (or whatever the hell it’s called) thinking to myself this commentary really sucks.

 

[Irish#1]

You’re gonna sigh about this? Protest doesn’t change the outcome of the athletic results. (Unless you’re an otherworldly protest god like the great Jesse Owens. Then you destroy all kinds of racist stereotypes and bigotry with ease.)

Of all the countries in the world, the United States should be emblematic of the value of protest. But it’s lost on many of its own citizens, because they don’t support the causes. Well, guess what? The Black Power salute wasn’t supported either during the ‘68 Olympics, but it resonated heavily in communities in our country and in the collective consciousness of our nation. The real issue of contention is that the causes being represented are ones you don’t like, and that’s fine, you’re entitled to your viewpoints. But just state it like it is. Sports are not victimized by protesting. It doesn’t add to the stress and the conflict for athletes to express their beliefs. The conflicts and injustice outside of sports add to the stress and anger of being a human being in any country. If you’re stressed by the causes being stood up for, then that’s your contention. Personally, I don’t agree with every protest ever protested, but I agree with the right to peaceful protest. It’s wholly American when America lives up to its ideals. The wish is that it is a peaceful global ideal.

The real issue is that ESPN is just a boring-ass platform for sports. I was on my way to work the other day listening to Key, J and Zubin (or whatever the hell it’s called) thinking to myself this commentary really sucks.

Sports is a reprieve from politics. It's no coincidence that ratings drop when protest happens. I have no problem with any athlete protesting outside of the athletic event. Given their visibility, this gives them the ability and platform to protest outside of the athletic event that the rest of us don't enjoy.

 

[ND88]

Sports is a reprieve from politics. It's no coincidence that ratings drop when protest happens. I have no problem with any athlete protesting outside of the athletic event. Given their visibility, this gives them the ability and platform to protest outside of the athletic event that the rest of us don't enjoy.

I understand what you’re saying and respect you have your views. In a perfect world, it might play out as you describe. But when the flag is flown, the anthem sung, the jet flyovers honored, we should be just as unified in those civil dignities as we should a human’s call to protest. The product on the field/court unifies us and provides the reprieve. Protest doesn’t negate the outcome of the sport. It sharpens the meaning and upholds the integrity of all involved.

 

[Irish#1]

I understand what you’re saying and respect you have your views. In a perfect world, it might play out as you describe. But when the flag is flown, the anthem sung, the jet flyovers honored, we should be just as unified in those civil dignities as we should a human’s call to protest. The product on the field/court unifies us and provides the reprieve. Protest doesn’t negate the outcome of the sport. It sharpens the meaning and upholds the integrity of all involved.

Respect yours as well. Here's the problem as I see it. Many of these protests are BS because they're selective. Kapernick was protesting the treatment of blacks in the U.S., yet he fully supported a communist regime in Cuba that was famous for violating civil liberties of its citizens. Cuba is known to imprison and execute people who protested against the government. LeBron James likes to protest the latest cause, but is as quiet as a lamb when it comes to China, because it effects his wallet. NBA ratings were in the tank last year due to all of the protest messages that covered the court, signage, uniforms, etc. People will accept and understand protesting. Those that like sports just don't want it during their 3 hour mental vacation from reality.

 

[Irish#1]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Must have been a slow news day for CNN.

Justin Bieber is being accused of cultural appropriation over his hair, again

Justin Bieber is facing backlash over his hair. Again.

The pop star debuted some short dreadlocks this week, sparking cries of cultural appropriation and racial insensitivity. The outcry came four years after he was similarly criticized over wearing cornrows -- and, yes, dreadlocks.

Dreadlocks are traditionally connected to the culture and identities of Black people, and wearing them is viewed by some as cultural appropriation.On social media some Black women called Bieber's hairstyle offensive and disrespectful and urged him to change it and apologize.

Others defended him, saying he can wear his hair the way he wants.

CNN has reached out to Bieber's representatives for comment.

"Cultural appropriation is about the power dynamic. When people with power and privilege decide to 'validate' customs and traditions that oppressed people have long been marginalized for by saying 'This is the hot new thing,' then we have serious problems," writer and speaker Feminista Jones told CNN in 2016.

The new criticism of Bieber's hair is just the latest cultural controversy involving the 27-year-old Canadian singer, who has long been accused of racial insensitivity. Bieber apologized in 2014 after videos surfaced showing him using the n-word and making a racist joke.

His new album, "Justice," includes a track called "MLK Interlude" -- almost two minutes of a speech by the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. King's daughter, Bernice King, tweeted her approval last month after Bieber expressed his support for social justice organizations, including the Martin Luther King Jr. Center.

Bieber has said he is merely trying to amplify the civil rights leader's message -- but people on social media criticized the album's use of King's words.

"I know that I cannot simply solve injustice by making music but I do know that if we all do our part by using our gifts to serve this planet and each other that we are that much closer to being united," Bieber tweeted before the album's release.

Bieber is certainly not the only celebrity who's been accused of cultural appropriation over their hairstyle. Miley Cyrus, Kim Kardashian and Kylie Jenner have also come under fire for rocking cornrows.

In 2015, "Fashion Police" host Giuliana Rancic sparked criticism when she said that Disney star Zendaya Coleman's dreadlocks hairstyle "smells like patchouli oil ... or weed." She later apologized.

Critics at the time said the incident highlighted how White celebrities are sometimes hailed as edgy for wearing ethnic hairstyles such as cornrows and dreadlocks while women of color are degraded for wearing their natural hair in similar styles.

 

[GowerND11]

Celts wore dreadlocks though...

 

[NorthDakota]

San Fran Archbishop says priests should be denying communion to pro- abortion Catholics. Will be interesting to see if certain political and celebrity figures in California run into problems.

 

[Irish#1]

Celts wore dreadlocks though...

People are not only too sensitive, I think a lot go looking for things they can be outraged about to try and stir the pot. Back in the 60's & 70's the popular hair style for blacks was the afro. Guess what? White dudes and chicks started wearing afros. It wasn't because anyone was trying to demean a race. It was because they thought the blacks had something cool going on and wanted to be cool as well.

 

[Blazers46]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Must have been a slow news day for CNN.

Justin Bieber is being accused of cultural appropriation over his hair, again

Justin Bieber is facing backlash over his hair. Again.

The pop star debuted some short dreadlocks this week, sparking cries of cultural appropriation and racial insensitivity. The outcry came four years after he was similarly criticized over wearing cornrows -- and, yes, dreadlocks.

Dreadlocks are traditionally connected to the culture and identities of Black people, and wearing them is viewed by some as cultural appropriation.On social media some Black women called Bieber's hairstyle offensive and disrespectful and urged him to change it and apologize.

Others defended him, saying he can wear his hair the way he wants.

CNN has reached out to Bieber's representatives for comment.

"Cultural appropriation is about the power dynamic. When people with power and privilege decide to 'validate' customs and traditions that oppressed people have long been marginalized for by saying 'This is the hot new thing,' then we have serious problems," writer and speaker Feminista Jones told CNN in 2016.

The new criticism of Bieber's hair is just the latest cultural controversy involving the 27-year-old Canadian singer, who has long been accused of racial insensitivity. Bieber apologized in 2014 after videos surfaced showing him using the n-word and making a racist joke.

His new album, "Justice," includes a track called "MLK Interlude" -- almost two minutes of a speech by the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. King's daughter, Bernice King, tweeted her approval last month after Bieber expressed his support for social justice organizations, including the Martin Luther King Jr. Center.

Bieber has said he is merely trying to amplify the civil rights leader's message -- but people on social media criticized the album's use of King's words.

"I know that I cannot simply solve injustice by making music but I do know that if we all do our part by using our gifts to serve this planet and each other that we are that much closer to being united," Bieber tweeted before the album's release.

Bieber is certainly not the only celebrity who's been accused of cultural appropriation over their hairstyle. Miley Cyrus, Kim Kardashian and Kylie Jenner have also come under fire for rocking cornrows.

In 2015, "Fashion Police" host Giuliana Rancic sparked criticism when she said that Disney star Zendaya Coleman's dreadlocks hairstyle "smells like patchouli oil ... or weed." She later apologized.

Critics at the time said the incident highlighted how White celebrities are sometimes hailed as edgy for wearing ethnic hairstyles such as cornrows and dreadlocks while women of color are degraded for wearing their natural hair in similar styles.

I think the radical black left just wants to take credit for EVERYTHING. America was “built” on their backs and Jesus was a Jew so he must be black...

I have also seen people claim black people invented the lightbulb and all the famous inventors really just had slaves invent things for them and take credit for it.

Everything a white man does is wrong/bad.

 

[NorthDakota]

Dreadlocks are disgusting and have no place in society.

 

[Irish#1]

Dreadlocks are disgusting and have no place in society.

I like them myself.

 

[Blazers46]

Dreadlocks are disgusting and have no place in society.

Well... thats racist...

 

[Rogue219]

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This is some shit right here. Another asswipe that doesn't think he should have to held accountable.

 

[Rogue219]

Dreadlocks are disgusting and have no place in society.

Grandpa? You post here?

 

[Rogue219]

I think the radical black left just wants to take credit for EVERYTHING.

Is this different from Antifa? I'm confused.

 

[Irish#1]

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This is some shit right here. Another asswipe that doesn't think he should have to held accountable.

Heard him on Dan Patrick yesterday. Dudes been caught about 5 times. One instance he claimed a stable hand took a leak in the stall and the horse ate the hay resulting in it being doped up.

 

[calvegas04]

Penn st. getting rid of the term Freshman, Junior and senior because people are soft

https://www.theblaze.com/news/penn-...r-senior-because-terms-arent-inclusive-enough

 

[Irish#1]

Penn st. getting rid of the term Freshman, Junior and senior because people are soft

https://www.theblaze.com/news/penn-...r-senior-because-terms-arent-inclusive-enough

I have yet to recover from the emotional scars of being called a freshman. Not even Dr. Phil could help me.

 

[Ndaccountant]

This is some shit right here. Another asswipe that doesn't think he should have to held accountable.

Speaking of cancel culture asswipes - This Bill Gates thing is not going to end well for him. He is still giving away billions, so he won't be cast aside forever. But his virtuous clout is gone and every move will be looked at with an alternate lens. That is, unless something really bad is turned up via Epstein digging.

 

[RDU Irish]

Speaking of cancel culture asswipes - This Bill Gates thing is not going to end well for him. He is still giving away billions, so he won't be cast aside forever. But his virtuous clout is gone and every move will be looked at with an alternate lens. That is, unless something really bad is turned up via Epstein digging.

I'll allow it.

 

[drayer54]

I'll allow it.

How much of this do you think is info being slowly dripped from Melinda or her people? Perhaps trying to break him down ahead of a divorce court? Trying to win the perception contest here?

 

[Ndaccountant]

How much of this do you think is info being slowly dripped from Melinda or her people? Perhaps trying to break him down ahead of a divorce court? Trying to win the perception contest here?

I think it's unrelated. I believe they have asked the courts to honor their predetermined arrangement on assets versus the court deciding. I think this is coming out now that the divorce is filed, some details are leaking. But this was apparently known for at least 2 years by some at Microsoft. If they knew, I am sure many others did as well. One small leak can lead to a flood and all that.

 

[Irish#1]

Gates attorney says he visited Epstein for the comradery and business discussions. lol

 

[drayer54]

Gates attorney says he visited Epstein for the comradery and business discussions. lol

That and the rubdowns. The networking is why we'll never find out what happened there. Too many powerful people that will protect themselves.