2016 Presidential Horse Race

[gkIrish]

Bat shit policies won't get passed easily. Sign me up for the person who won't embarrass our country and who actually sincerely cares about its future.

Does anyone doubt that Hillary and Donald just want to win for selfish reasons?

 

[connor_in]

 

[connor_in]

 

[connor_in]

 

[TDHeysus]

Bat shit policies won't get passed easily. Sign me up for the person who won't embarrass our country and who actually sincerely cares about its future.

Does anyone doubt that Hillary and Donald just want to win for selfish reasons?

True bat-shit policies don't get passed, well except for NAFTA. Bat Shit Policies get put into effect via executive order.

 

[GATTACA!]

Bat shit policies won't get passed easily. Sign me up for the person who won't embarrass our country and who actually sincerely cares about its future.

Does anyone doubt that Hillary and Donald just want to win for selfish reasons?

Martin O'Malley IMO

 

[Ndaccountant]

Might be the start of something....might not. But if it is, I wonder what impact it would have on the election, if any.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Trump's end game is becoming clearer:

Trump is indeed considering creating his own media business, built on the audience that has supported him thus far in his bid to become the next president of the United States. According to several people briefed on the discussions, the presumptive Republican nominee is examining the opportunity presented by the “audience” currently supporting him. He has also discussed the possibility of launching a “mini-media conglomerate” outside of his existing TV-production business, Trump Productions LLC. He has, according to one of these people, enlisted the consultation of his daughter Ivanka Trump and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who owns the The New York Observer. Trump’s rationale, according to this person, is that, “win or lose, we are onto something here. We’ve triggered a base of the population that hasn’t had a voice in a long time.” For his part, Kushner was heard at a New York dinner party saying that “the people here don’t understand what I’m seeing. You go to these arenas and people go crazy for him.” (Both Kushner and Ivanka Trump did not respond to a request for comment.)

 

[ACamp1900]

Trump's end game is becoming clearer:

This makes a hell of a lot more sense than Trump actually trying to win an election, or you getting a single kill on me in MW2 with your weak ass SMGs...

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Trump's end game is becoming clearer:

You mean to tell me that Trump isn't running for POTUS for the good of America. He's running for the good of Trump? I don't believe it.

 

[woolybug25]

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Just watched this... When I get home, I am going roll a huge fatty and smoke it. Then watch this commercial on a loop until my brain consumes itself.

 

[NDohio]

Trump's end game is becoming clearer:

Now this makes sense.

 

[connor_in]

Just watched this... When I get home, I am going roll a huge fatty and smoke it. Then watch this commercial on a loop until my brain consumes itself.

Can't you get, like, a ticket or something for doing that?

 

[woolybug25]

Can't you get, like, a ticket or something for doing that?

A ticket to the spirit world.

 

[ACamp1900]

A ticket to the spirit world.

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[tussin]

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Thank you so much for this. It's amazing.

 

[Irish YJ]

I threw Biden's name out there because I honestly don't believe the establishment wants Sanders in office. It'd be a mistake circa the 1968 Dem Convention to insert Biden ahead of Sanders, but I wouldn't put it passed them.

A lot of people would probably agree with this as far as Bernie being genuine and trustworthy but completely disagreeing with his policies. It's a fair assessment. My "big picture" though is if this country wants to start seeing significant change (on either side of the isle), it must do something about the corruption in D.C. I think that's a point that most Americans agree with regardless of party affiliation. And Bernie is the person who's adamant and stubborn enough to fight it.

If you told me he'd burn down DC I'd probably vote for him. I don't really see him working across the aisle either to get anything sensible done.

I don't love Kasich, but there's enough to like about him to vote for him over Trump and Hillary. I wish he would've been the nom instead of Drumpf. He's exactly right here in this interview. The media handled Trump entirely wrong.

WATCH: John Kasich attacks Joe Scarborough for creating Trump: The media has “let us down” because “you couldn’t get enough of it” - Salon.com

Kasich is probably the only I could vote for out of them all, and not feel ashamed and/or scared out of my mind.

Bat shit policies won't get passed easily. Sign me up for the person who won't embarrass our country and who actually sincerely cares about its future.

Does anyone doubt that Hillary and Donald just want to win for selfish reasons?

Hilary and Donald are two sides of the same coin.
I disagree on bat shit policy not getting passed easily. You are probably right so log as the GOP controls the House/Senate

Trump's end game is becoming clearer:

And just think, if he could have just kept his mouth closed, and the rhetoric toned down, he could have started this crap in 4 years with a lot more subscribers... long game whiskey

 

[phgreek]

Imo, a HRC indictment is the best possible scenario to the general election. People, including myself, hate her. People, including myself, also hate Trump. It's my opinion that the POTUS is basically a toss-up between two of the most hated primary victors in history. An indictment would almost certainly force the DNC to remove her from running thus choosing between putting Bernie up for election or going more moderate and rolling the dice with Joe Biden or someone similar. Imo, either Biden or Sanders would be better than Trump or HRC if given the choice.

I have made fun of Joe Biden mercilessly...but you know what...I'd vote for Grandpa Joe...

I can't stand Liberal foreign policy, and I am seriously skeptical how what we are in domestically could be called an economic recovery...its like calling little round top Pike's peak.

all that said I'll take more of the same from a reasonably standup guy...

 

[woolybug25]

I would vote for Grandpa Joe as well. I think he would win in a landslide against Trump. The debates would also be incredible entertainment.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

You're right, there could be 300,000 people out there intrigued by the idea of shooting up a ____ and they have incredibly easy access to the weaponry to pull it off.

We're at war with radical Islam and some people in this country don't want to act like it by agreeing that we could do more to keep guns out of the hands of the bad guys.

To: Buster

We don't need guns, silly American.

Sincerely, all the attackers from:

London tube bombing 2005
Spain bombing 2004
France bombing 2015
Boston bombing 2013

 

[Irish YJ]

I would vote for Grandpa Joe as well. I think he would win in a landslide against Trump. The debates would also be incredible entertainment.

Biden vs Kasich would be the least embarrassing of all scenarios
If I'm going for entertainment value only, Hilldog vs Trumpers without a doubt.

 

[EddytoNow]

I would vote for Grandpa Joe as well. I think he would win in a landslide against Trump. The debates would also be incredible entertainment.

Given the opportunity, I'd vote for Joe Biden over any of the primary candidates of either party. He may stumble over his words once in awhile, but he has more integrity than either of the front-runners by a long shot.

Unfortunately, we as an electorate keep voting for candidates that do not make good presidents. The primary process (which is controlled by the extremes of both parties) has turned respect and compromise into dirty words. Those candidates with the most integrity and the willingness to negotiate and compromise are the first ones eliminated in the primary process.

We complain about gridlock in Congress. We whine about the lack of compromise and the refusal to work together. And who do we select as presidential candidates? You guessed it. The fire-breathing extremists on both sides. We get what we deserve.

 

[connor_in]

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No fair! Hillary gets her own holiday? – twitchy.com

 

[irishfan]

Poll: Clinton tops Trump, but neither prompts excitement - CNNPolitics.com

 

[BleedBlueGold]

HRC's Wall St donors already in her ear about E. Warren.

...and people thought Hillary wasn't bought and paid for...

I guess we'll find out how serious Hillary is about change. Will she snub Wall St and pick Warren as her running mate, or will she obey her donors and not choose Warren. There's no middle ground here.

 

[phgreek]

HRC's Wall St donors already in her ear about E. Warren.

...and people thought Hillary wasn't bought and paid for...

I guess we'll find out how serious Hillary is about change. Will she snub Wall St and pick Warren as her running mate, or will she obey her donors and not choose Warren. There's no middle ground here.

I am convinced Sanders is the real deal.

I am not convinced Elizabeth Warren is. Yea I'm generally conservative, but I am beginning to see people with the conviction to stand tall on the other side of the aisle, and have enough grey in my beard to know people with integrity from either side do not ruin this nation...those w/o it are the issue.

...does Warren have the conviction to stand tall, and act on behalf of the people she represents...and no she doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because she has a D next to her name. I go back to the Pocahontas deal. That says something about a person's character if they stand to benefit from something they are AT LEAST unsure about...it is hardly different to me than stolen valor when she attempted to get on the Native American gravy train...and no, you can't explain it away with..."well her uncles , cousins, best friends dog said she was Indian". It is one thing to claim heritage at a wine party as an interesting note about yourself such as..."my grandmother says I'm 1/8 native american"...it is completely different to avail yourself of benefits set aside for Native Americans without certainty...when you sign documents claiming minority status, you are CERTIFYING...you are saying you did your due diligence on the matter. We don't need someone that clueless or ruthless leading anything.

She has at least another decade of being stand up and competent, even when she isn't a darling/rock star, before I can take her seriously.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I am convinced Sanders is the real deal.

I am not convinced Elizabeth Warren is. Yea I'm generally conservative, but I am beginning to see people with the conviction to stand tall on the other side of the aisle, and have enough grey in my beard to know people with integrity from either side do not ruin this nation...those w/o it are the issue.

...does Warren have the conviction to stand tall, and act on behalf of the people she represents...and no she doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because she has a D next to her name. I go back to the Pocahontas deal. That says something about a person's character if they stand to benefit from something they are AT LEAST unsure about...it is hardly different to me than stolen valor when she attempted to get on the Native American gravy train...and no, you can't explain it away with..."well her uncles , cousins, best friends dog said she was Indian". It is one thing to claim heritage at a wine party as an interesting note about yourself such as..."my grandmother says I'm 1/8 native american"...it is completely different to avail yourself of benefits set aside for Native Americans without certainty...when you sign documents claiming minority status, you are CERTIFYING...you are saying you did your due diligence on the matter. We don't need someone that clueless or ruthless leading anything.

She has at least another decade of being stand up and competent, even when she isn't a darling/rock star, before I can take her seriously.

Whether you feel Warren is good/bad isn't the point of my post. The point is that HRC's donors are dictating who will be her VP. They gave her a short list. Shockingly, Warren isn't on it (she's constantly going after the big banks and Wall St). Basically, the donors said if you want our money, pick one of these names. That's fucked up, but it's exactly how this country is ran and it's exactly what Bernie has been saying this entire primary process. The ultra wealthy are the ruling class in this plutocracy called America.

 

[phgreek]

Whether you feel Warren is good/bad isn't the point of my post. The point is that HRC's donors are dictating who will be her VP. They gave her a short list. Shockingly, Warren isn't on it (she's constantly going after the big banks and Wall St). Basically, the donors said if you want our money, pick one of these names. That's fucked up, but it's exactly how this country is ran and it's exactly what Bernie has been saying this entire primary process. The ultra wealthy are the ruling class in this plutocracy called America.

Got it...I'm saying I don't trust by the end she wouldn't fall in line...I don't trust what you describe isn't some Clinton ruse to try and get credibility
by "going against the banks"....I trust if Sanders were on that list...and he got the nod...no ruse, no BS.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Got it...I'm saying I don't trust by the end she wouldn't fall in line...I don't trust what you describe isn't some Clinton ruse to try and get credibility
by "going against the banks"....I trust if Sanders were on that list...and he got the nod...no ruse, no BS.

It's specifically stated that Bernie is not on the list. Shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

[kmoose]

Whether you feel Warren is good/bad isn't the point of my post. The point is that HRC's donors are dictating who will be her VP. They gave her a short list. Shockingly, Warren isn't on it (she's constantly going after the big banks and Wall St). Basically, the donors said if you want our money, pick one of these names. That's fucked up, but it's exactly how this country is ran and it's exactly what Bernie has been saying this entire primary process. The ultra wealthy are the ruling class in this plutocracy called America.

Will you still vote for Clinton, anyway?