Coolest Guns you have fired?

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The best 9mm on the market in terms of function, reliability, and quality is the Heckler & Koch VP9. It was the gun of the year from guns and ammo a year back. I've recommended it to a few people that I know and they have all loved it. One of the best triggers on the market too. That's by far the best gun in that price point of any caliber.

Good luck.

Been that way for years. Nothing beats an H&K pistol out of the box for reliability and precision. The only downside is that you could buy two comparable Glocks or S&Ws for roughly the same price. But if cost is no object, H&K is definitely the way to go.

Yes you can get the M&Ps with a thumb safety. I have a M&P Shield .40 that has a thumb safety on it. I know you aren't looking for a carry weapon, but for anyone that is, it conceals nicely and S&W .40 is easier to get than 9mm when there is a run on ammunition. The down side is it holds one less bullet than the 9mm.

Also significantly higher recoil and cost per shot.
 

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H&K has no affiliation with the Koch Brothers. Read the reviews, it's a mile above the XDs/M&P/Glock tier. Also, the VP9 can be had for 500-625, depending on options.
 

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Just purchased a Springfield XD-S 9mm 3.3 this weekend. Seems to be the perfect size for me to carry. As far as home defense, my fiance seems to think we should invest in an assault riffle....

Assault Rifles require lots of paperwork and tariffs. AR-15's are cheaper than ever though because the market for them is flat.
 

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Great. Thank you. I will look into it.

Like Whiskey said, the price may deter me considering the XDs are much cheaper, but we'll see.
 

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Coolest i've fired, 50 cal. rifle. Something like 4 bucks a bullet. Real big kick back. Was delightful to fire a $12,000 gun.
 

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Thanks guys. I'll see if the range has any in stock that I can test. (Hopefully H&K has no affiliation with the Koch Bros. Would be an immediate no for me based on principal alone

My first thought was... you didn't really make a political joke in a hand gun thread, which morphed into... if you really thought there was a connection between H&K and the Kochs you'd be best off with a Red Ryder Carbine Action 200-shot Range Model air rifle but then I finished with... at least he's not the typical anti-Koch / anti-handgun kinda guy.

The most important thing is how it fits in your hand. Hopefully you'll only use it at the range but if you do use it, most likely it will be close and crazy so get something that is an extension of you body and don't worry about accuracy at 200 feet. Training will be 100x more important than the guns tested accuracy.


Just purchased a Springfield XD-S 9mm 3.3 this weekend. Seems to be the perfect size for me to carry. As far as home defense, my fiance seems to think we should invest in an assault riffle....

Any like minded sisters?
 

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My first thought was... you didn't really make a political joke in a hand gun thread, which morphed into... if you really thought there was a connection between H&K and the Kochs you'd be best off with a Red Ryder Carbine Action 200-shot Range Model air rifle but then I finished with... at least he's not the typical anti-Koch / anti-handgun kinda guy.

The most important thing is how it fits in your hand. Hopefully you'll only use it at the range but if you do use it, most likely it will be close and crazy so get something that is an extension of you body and don't worry about accuracy at 200 feet. Training will be 100x more important than the guns tested accuracy.

Lol. Yea, I despise those guys. I'm not anti-gun though (clearly).

Thanks for the advice.
 

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Update:

So I've shot quite a few full size 9mm over the last couple of days at the range near my home. I have yet to come across a VP9 and M&P that I could rent to shoot (both have been checked out before me each time).

At the moment, I've yet to fall in love with any one in particular. I actually liked the Ruger 9E until I read the reviews and found that it's horribly inaccurate and made sort of cheap. *I'm a newb so when a group is spread out, it could just as easily be shooter-error, therefore I can't tell the difference haha. I enjoy everything about the XDM except the grip. It doesn't feel very comfortable to me.

Walther, Beretta, CZ were others among the Ruger and XDM.

Hopefully I can get to the M&P and VP9 sometime this week. I held/dry fired the VP9 and the feel is great. Big price tag though compared to the others so it's going to take some convincing.
 

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Update:

So I've shot quite a few full size 9mm over the last couple of days at the range near my home. I have yet to come across a VP9 and M&P that I could rent to shoot (both have been checked out before me each time).

At the moment, I've yet to fall in love with any one in particular. I actually liked the Ruger 9E until I read the reviews and found that it's horribly inaccurate and made sort of cheap. *I'm a newb so when a group is spread out, it could just as easily be shooter-error, therefore I can't tell the difference haha. I enjoy everything about the XDM except the grip. It doesn't feel very comfortable to me.

Walther, Beretta, CZ were others among the Ruger and XDM.

Hopefully I can get to the M&P and VP9 sometime this week. I held/dry fired the VP9 and the feel is great. Big price tag though compared to the others so it's going to take some convincing.
When you make your purchase can you update us? I am in the same boat as you looking around for a handgun that is safe and priced not to crazy
 
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Just purchased a Springfield XD-S 9mm 3.3 this weekend. Seems to be the perfect size for me to carry. As far as home defense, my fiance seems to think we should invest in an assault riffle....

Late to the conversation, but I think my Mossberg 500 is grand as an anti-home invasion weapon! In 12 gage, you can get barrels down to just above 14". (I think 14 or less requires similar qualification and paperwork similar to an assault rifle.) I have a hunting 500, with a longer barrel and choke for multiple hunting and target uses, but my 500 'Constitutional' is short, and accepts standard rounds, as well as magnums. (Want to rock an invaders world, use a magnum, or better yet, a 535 with an 89mm round!)

Only problem with the 89's is the reconstruction costs for your house.

I would highly recommend a shotgun for home defense, especially for women. It is good for anyone, considering the need will probably arise at night, and in close quarters.

Just my two cents.

Of course, I would like a decent semi-automatic, but I can't get past my S&W 686Plus! Accurate, easy to use, makes a hell of a hole with a seven round capacity, and it allows me to load .38 hollow points, which are much more humane, as they rarely leave the target. In a house where there may be others I don't want getting hit, this is first priority for me.

I know some of you prefer semi's because of their magazine capacities, but I have a couple of speed loaders, one with .38 hollow points also, but one with pretty advanced .357mag rounds. Those will go through walls. Concrete. I figure if I exhaust seven or fourteen rounds, and need any more, it is time to use the high end stuff.

Alll that being said, my son recently revealed his AK-74 build. It is something. The rounds look so small. But that weapon really does incredible damage. And it is the easiest to use of any weapon I have fired, in its class. It gives me pause on the firing end, it must be terrifying on the receiving end. Happy Easter!
 

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When you make your purchase can you update us? I am in the same boat as you looking around for a handgun that is safe and priced not to crazy

I recommend the FNS 9 or 40.
Very accurate and reliable.
I've had both for a few years and put hundreds of rounds thru them.
Never had a jam or misfire.
You can find them In the low 400's if you look hard enough.

It's comparable to a Glock without the cost.

I do prefer the M&P Shield over the compact FNS and picked up a couple of them for my wife and I to carry.
 

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I saw Irishpat on the first page. I miss that crazy little fucker.
 

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I think it's really gross to view these weapons as some kind of toy or something that is "cool".

Grow up.

If firing guns makes you feel cool, you probably aren't.
 

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I think it's really gross to view these weapons as some kind of toy or something that is "cool".

Grow up.

If firing guns makes you feel cool, you probably aren't.

Lol. You're trolling. I hope.
 

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Fucking disgusting.

I hope you don't end up killing yourself with it someday.
I hope your children don't get a hold of it and shoot each other.
I hope you don't get angry at your wife and show her who's in charge.
I hope your neighbor doesn't come knocking late one night and you accidentally kill him.

You realize each one of these is more likely to happen than you using this weapon for it's intended purpose?
 

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Lol. You're trolling. I hope.

This issue is important to me and I'm ashamed to be associated with the gun degenates here.

These are killing machines not "cool" toys.

Get a grip on the reality of what you are talking about here.
 

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This issue is important to me and I'm ashamed to be associated with the gun degenates here.

These are killing machines not "cool" toys.

Get a grip on the reality of what you are talking about here.

Then gtfo this board. Seems like an easy solution.

Are you going to drive your killing machine to work tomorrow?
 

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Fucking disgusting.

I hope you don't end up killing yourself with it someday.
I hope your children don't get a hold of it and shoot each other.
I hope you don't get angry at your wife and show her who's in charge.
I hope your neighbor doesn't come knocking late one night and you accidentally kill him.

You realize each one of these is more likely to happen than you using this weapon for it's intended purpose?

Those things are part of my intended purpose. You lose.
 

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Fucking disgusting.

I hope you don't end up killing yourself with it someday.
I hope your children don't get a hold of it and shoot each other.
I hope you don't get angry at your wife and show her who's in charge.
I hope your neighbor doesn't come knocking late one night and you accidentally kill him.

You realize each one of these is more likely to happen than you using this weapon for it's intended purpose?

I actually thought it went well with kids play mat and the diaper bag also showed in the picture. A family man by day......
 

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Fucking disgusting.

I hope you don't end up killing yourself with it someday.
I hope your children don't get a hold of it and shoot each other.
I hope you don't get angry at your wife and show her who's in charge.
I hope your neighbor doesn't come knocking late one night and you accidentally kill him.

You realize each one of these is more likely to happen than you using this weapon for it's intended purpose?

No, it isn't as I use my guns for target shooting as I have since I was four years old and my father taught me gun safety.

I also have a baseball bat in my house that has never harmed anyone, nor my shovels, axes, chainsaws, nor rat poison in my basement.

My wife's nephew did lose an eye one Halloween to an older kid with a bar of soap inside a sock.

We still use soap ... for the purpose it was intended.
 

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I actually thought it went well with kids play mat and the diaper bag also showed in the picture. A family man by day......

Haha! I had a feeling I would get some grief for where the photo was taken. Little guy was upstairs in bed, not crawling around playing with dads new rifle.
 

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Then gtfo this board. Seems like an easy solution.

Are you going to drive your killing machine to work tomorrow?

Of all the feeble brained analogies, the "cars kill people too" analogy is probably the most juvenile.

People die in cars, yes. They are used for transportation and the alternatives are not practical today. People die on horses and people die jogging down the street. Statistically cars are safer than other methods of transportation per mile, even walking.

So let's look at how, as a responsible society, we deal with this peril.

We have to pass tests to drive. We have safety regulations which restrict how fast you can go, laws that restrict whether you can drive while drunk or stoned, and we keep careful records and lists of everyone who drives and what they own.

Also, for decades we have developed new and better technologies (seatbelts, windshields, rear view mirrors, windshield wipers, side mirrors, radial tires, antilock brakes, airbags, and we are even making leaps and bounds towards autonomous systems that will one day eliminate driver error fatalities). We do this to make cars safer to drivers, passengers, and others on the road. We do this due to government regulations and standards. We do this because car makers get sued for faulty products.

By contrast, your "cool" toys are designed for one purpose. To kill. They serve no other function, except well obviously, to entertain adolescent morons who like to shoot targets because they think it makes them "cool".

Imagine how many lives could be saved if we applied the same social, forensic and technological logic to these weapons and their users.
 

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Haha! I had a feeling I would get some grief for where the photo was taken. Little guy was upstairs in bed, not crawling around playing with dads new rifle.

It's absolutely sickening that people would bring a weapon like this into a home with a small child.

Why take that risk?

Guns In the Home

There are more than 310 million guns in circulation in the United States — approximately 90 guns for every 100 people.
In 2013, 1,670 children (age 0 to 18 years) died by gunshot and an additional 9,718 were injured.
An emergency department visit for non-fatal assault injury places a youth at 40 percent higher risk for subsequent firearm injury.
Those people that die from accidental shooting were more than three times as likely to have had a firearm in their home as those in the control group.
Among children, the majority of unintentional shooting deaths occur in the home. Most of these deaths occur when children are playing with a loaded gun in their parent’s absence.
People who report “firearm access” are at twice the risk of homicide and more than three times the risk of suicide compared to those who do not own or have access to firearms
Suicide rates are much higher in states with higher rates of gun ownership, even after controlling for differences among states for poverty, urbanization, unemployment, mental illness, and alcohol or drug abuse.
Among suicide victims requiring hospital treatment, suicide attempts with a firearm are much more deadly than attempts by jumping or drug poisoning — 90 percent die compared to 34 percent and 2 percent respectively. About 90 percent of those that survive a suicide attempt do not go on to die by suicide.
In states with increased gun availability, death rates from gunshots for children were higher than in states with less availability.
The vast majority of accidental firearm deaths among children are related to child access to firearms — either self-inflicted or at the hands of another child.
Studies have shown that states with CAP laws have a lower rate of unintentional death than states without CAP laws.
Domestic violence is more likely to turn deadly with a gun in the home. An abusive partner’s access to a firearm increases the risk of homicide eight-fold for women in physically abusive relationships.

Safe Storage of Guns in the Home

The U.S. General Accounting Office estimated that 31 percent of accidental deaths caused by firearms might be prevented with the addition of 2 devices: a child-proof safety lock and a loading indicator.
Approximately one of three handguns guns is kept loaded and unlocked and most children know where their parents keep their guns.
73 percent of children under age 10 know where their parents keep their firearms and 36 percent admitted handling the weapons, contradicting their parents’ reports.
More than 75 percent of guns used by youth in suicide attempts were kept in the home of the victim, a relative, or a friend.
Gun owners in a household (predominantly men) are more likely to report that their gun is stored unlocked and loaded, compared to the non-owners (predominantly women) in those households. This argues for better education of household members regarding safe storage in homes with children.

https://injury.research.chop.edu/vi...-violence/gun-violence-facts-and#.VvjASHq1Ufo
 

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It's absolutely sickening that people would bring a weapon like this into a home with a small child.

Why take that risk?

Guns In the Home

There are more than 310 million guns in circulation in the United States — approximately 90 guns for every 100 people.
In 2013, 1,670 children (age 0 to 18 years) died by gunshot and an additional 9,718 were injured.
An emergency department visit for non-fatal assault injury places a youth at 40 percent higher risk for subsequent firearm injury.
Those people that die from accidental shooting were more than three times as likely to have had a firearm in their home as those in the control group.
Among children, the majority of unintentional shooting deaths occur in the home. Most of these deaths occur when children are playing with a loaded gun in their parent’s absence.
People who report “firearm access” are at twice the risk of homicide and more than three times the risk of suicide compared to those who do not own or have access to firearms
Suicide rates are much higher in states with higher rates of gun ownership, even after controlling for differences among states for poverty, urbanization, unemployment, mental illness, and alcohol or drug abuse.
Among suicide victims requiring hospital treatment, suicide attempts with a firearm are much more deadly than attempts by jumping or drug poisoning — 90 percent die compared to 34 percent and 2 percent respectively. About 90 percent of those that survive a suicide attempt do not go on to die by suicide.
In states with increased gun availability, death rates from gunshots for children were higher than in states with less availability.
The vast majority of accidental firearm deaths among children are related to child access to firearms — either self-inflicted or at the hands of another child.
Studies have shown that states with CAP laws have a lower rate of unintentional death than states without CAP laws.
Domestic violence is more likely to turn deadly with a gun in the home. An abusive partner’s access to a firearm increases the risk of homicide eight-fold for women in physically abusive relationships.

Safe Storage of Guns in the Home

The U.S. General Accounting Office estimated that 31 percent of accidental deaths caused by firearms might be prevented with the addition of 2 devices: a child-proof safety lock and a loading indicator.
Approximately one of three handguns guns is kept loaded and unlocked and most children know where their parents keep their guns.
73 percent of children under age 10 know where their parents keep their firearms and 36 percent admitted handling the weapons, contradicting their parents’ reports.
More than 75 percent of guns used by youth in suicide attempts were kept in the home of the victim, a relative, or a friend.
Gun owners in a household (predominantly men) are more likely to report that their gun is stored unlocked and loaded, compared to the non-owners (predominantly women) in those households. This argues for better education of household members regarding safe storage in homes with children.

https://injury.research.chop.edu/vi...-violence/gun-violence-facts-and#.VvjASHq1Ufo


No studies on misuse of unsecured soap.
 

JTLA

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No, it isn't as I use my guns for target shooting as I have since I was four years old and my father taught me gun safety.

I also have a baseball bat in my house that has never harmed anyone, nor my shovels, axes, chainsaws, nor rat poison in my basement.

My wife's nephew did lose an eye one Halloween to an older kid with a bar of soap inside a sock.

We still use soap ... for the purpose it was intended.

Everyone thinks they are an above average driver.
Everyone thinks they are a safe gun owner.

The reality is that you are just a statistic. You make mistakes. You get drunk. You get depressed. You forget that you left something unlocked. You mistake someone for something else. Your behavior actually changes because you know you have a deadly weapon at your disposal. You are much more likely to engage in confrontation and much more likely to be distrustful of others. You are also a target because others may or will know that you have these valuable weapons in your home. These are just facts. You are not special. You are not an above average driver. Everyone gets in accidents.

We simply don't have a nationwide epidemic of people killing themselves or other people with bats, shovels, chainsaws, axes, rat poison, or even soap.

By contrast, children are killed or injured by guns everyday in this country.
Children Killed/Injured in 2016 | Gun Violence Archive

In fact, toddlers are more deadly than Isis in this country. They kill people with guns on average about once a week.

But tell me more about this soap story, I'm sure it's really important and relevant.
 

no.1IrishFan

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Coolest Guns you have fired?

It's absolutely sickening that people would bring a weapon like this into a home with a small child.



Why take that risk?



Guns In the Home



There are more than 310 million guns in circulation in the United States — approximately 90 guns for every 100 people.

In 2013, 1,670 children (age 0 to 18 years) died by gunshot and an additional 9,718 were injured.

An emergency department visit for non-fatal assault injury places a youth at 40 percent higher risk for subsequent firearm injury.

Those people that die from accidental shooting were more than three times as likely to have had a firearm in their home as those in the control group.

Among children, the majority of unintentional shooting deaths occur in the home. Most of these deaths occur when children are playing with a loaded gun in their parent’s absence.

People who report “firearm access” are at twice the risk of homicide and more than three times the risk of suicide compared to those who do not own or have access to firearms

Suicide rates are much higher in states with higher rates of gun ownership, even after controlling for differences among states for poverty, urbanization, unemployment, mental illness, and alcohol or drug abuse.

Among suicide victims requiring hospital treatment, suicide attempts with a firearm are much more deadly than attempts by jumping or drug poisoning — 90 percent die compared to 34 percent and 2 percent respectively. About 90 percent of those that survive a suicide attempt do not go on to die by suicide.

In states with increased gun availability, death rates from gunshots for children were higher than in states with less availability.

The vast majority of accidental firearm deaths among children are related to child access to firearms — either self-inflicted or at the hands of another child.

Studies have shown that states with CAP laws have a lower rate of unintentional death than states without CAP laws.

Domestic violence is more likely to turn deadly with a gun in the home. An abusive partner’s access to a firearm increases the risk of homicide eight-fold for women in physically abusive relationships.



Safe Storage of Guns in the Home



The U.S. General Accounting Office estimated that 31 percent of accidental deaths caused by firearms might be prevented with the addition of 2 devices: a child-proof safety lock and a loading indicator.

Approximately one of three handguns guns is kept loaded and unlocked and most children know where their parents keep their guns.

73 percent of children under age 10 know where their parents keep their firearms and 36 percent admitted handling the weapons, contradicting their parents’ reports.

More than 75 percent of guns used by youth in suicide attempts were kept in the home of the victim, a relative, or a friend.

Gun owners in a household (predominantly men) are more likely to report that their gun is stored unlocked and loaded, compared to the non-owners (predominantly women) in those households. This argues for better education of household members regarding safe storage in homes with children.



https://injury.research.chop.edu/vi...-violence/gun-violence-facts-and#.VvjASHq1Ufo



Didn't read.
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calvegas04

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Everyone thinks they are an above average driver.
Everyone thinks they are a safe gun owner.

The reality is that you are just a statistic. You make mistakes. You get drunk. You get depressed. You forget that you left something unlocked. You mistake someone for something else. Your behavior actually changes because you know you have a deadly weapon at your disposal. You are much more likely to engage in confrontation and much more likely to be distrustful of others. You are also a target because others may or will know that you have these valuable weapons in your home. These are just facts. You are not special. You are not an above average driver. Everyone gets in accidents.

We simply don't have a nationwide epidemic of people killing themselves or other people with bats, shovels, chainsaws, axes, rat poison, or even soap.

By contrast, children are killed or injured by guns everyday in this country.
Children Killed/Injured in 2016 | Gun Violence Archive

In fact, toddlers are more deadly than Isis in this country. They kill people with guns on average about once a week.

But tell me more about this soap story, I'm sure it's really important and relevant.

shouldn't you be busy prepping for some anti trump rally?
 
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